Bosh Traded to Miami (RUMOR)

[fishercob]

Couple of quick thoughts on that front, monte.

What if Splitter turns out to be a total stud? SA vaults way up the list and has tradeable assets to boot.
If Portland has any sustatined period of health, along with one more talent-consolidating good trade, they could be in the mix.

And the Heat STILL don't have anyone who can stay in front of Wall

[WizarDynasty]

i know i am sounding like DLT but we finally have a true big three. Wall, Arenas, and Blatche---that's some serious firepower.
If we can get McGee to gain a lil strength and play positional defense, he should be a major upgrade over Haywood.
Having Seraphin, Young, Hinrich, T.Booker, and Yi coming off the bench is pretty strong. Our biggest weak spot is the lack of three point shooting and unproven man to man defense at the three spot.
Thornton has an extremely low basketball iq and his feet are like bricks when he is trying to play defense and he is starting for us. If Thornton can eventually knock down the open three eventually--i feel alot better. We have a really strong potential bench..we serious problem with thornton starting but we at least have talent behind him..and McGee is entering his third year, and if Seraphin and N'Diaye can toughen him up in practice, i would feel extremely confident at move upwards in rankings to elite. I think the key component is how closely T. Booker is to ron artest. If he has the man to man defensive capabilities we can always put him on the best perimeter player. Thornton should be relegated to small ball powerforward and that's it. I don't even like him as a back up small forward.

[tontoz]

i know i am sounding like DLT but we finally have a true big three. Wall, Arenas, and Blatche---that's some serious firepower.
If we can get McGee to gain a lil strength and play positional defense, he should be a major upgrade over Haywood.
Having Seraphin, Young, Hinrich, T.Booker, and Yi coming off the bench is pretty strong. Our biggest weak spot is the lack of three point shooting and unproven man to man defense at the three spot.
Thornton has an extremely low basketball iq and his feet are like bricks when he is trying to play defense and he is starting for us. If Thornton can eventually knock down the open three eventually--i feel alot better. We have a really strong potential bench..we serious problem with thornton starting but we at least have talent behind him..and McGee is entering his third year, and if Seraphin and N'Diaye can toughen him up in practice, i would feel extremely confident at move upwards in rankings to elite. I think the key component is how closely T. Booker is to ron artest. If he has the man to man defensive capabilities we can always put him on the best perimeter player. Thornton should be relegated to small ball powerforward and that's it. I don't even like him as a back up small forward.

I can't figure out Thornton. There were games where he just dominated the Hawks. Then there are games were he completely disappears. I don't get it.

[Spence]

I can't figure out Thornton. There were games where he just dominated the Hawks. Then there are games were he completely disappears. I don't get it.

You've got Thornton figured out all right. That's why the Clippers traded him for an expiring contract and why he's best suited to coming off the bench.

[Ji]

so many crazy rumors...there is a summit...there isnt.....then there was....but there wasnt....Lebron is joining Wade...Now Wade is giving up on Lebron.

Would be great if every player just went back to his own team and NY ended up giving a Max contract to Randy Foye

[80sballboy]

i know i am sounding like DLT but we finally have a true big three. Wall, Arenas, and Blatche---that's some serious firepower.
If we can get McGee to gain a lil strength and play positional defense, he should be a major upgrade over Haywood.
Having Seraphin, Young, Hinrich, T.Booker, and Yi coming off the bench is pretty strong. Our biggest weak spot is the lack of three point shooting and unproven man to man defense at the three spot. .

You lost me with that comment. Nobody knows how Seraphin is going to do in his first year and Booker, though talented, is still a rookie. Yi is awful defensively and Nick is hot and cold. As for Arenas, he won't be here.

I really don't care about having a big three anymore. How about a quality five.

[willbcocks]

Miami using Toronto's first round pick as S&T leverage would explain why we couldn't help them dump Jones' contract.

[Hoopalotta]

Sounds like they pretty well had the plan to buyout James Jones anyway and he's only hitting them for $1.5 million.

And.....rumor is that the super team isn't happening either:

Dwyane Wade has told two associates that he is now focused on recruiting a big such as Chris Bosh, Amar'e Stoudemire or Carlos Boozer, which effectively ends his attempt to bring in LeBron James.

Wojnarowski reports that the Bulls are currently in the lead for LeBron, with the Heat, Nets and Cavaliers also 'in hot pursuit'.

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wireta ... ng_lebron/

That is Wojo, who's pretty reliable; hopefully he's right about that one.

[rockymac52]

^ I don't think that ends the LeBron to the heat possibility at all. From what it sounds like, they all discussed it, and liked the idea, but didn't think it was actually a realistic possibility. But Wade seems to know that he's staying in Miami, so he's going to make a push to get Bosh to sign first, so that if all else fails, the two of them are together and can be a great foundation for the team. However, if Bosh and Wade have already both signed with Miami, then LeBron is either staying in Cleveland (in which the Heat may feel that they're now the best team in the East, or at least much closer), going to one of his other suitors and teaming up with a 2nd tier allstar free agent (and again, possibly still worse than the Heat, or at least comparable), or signing with the Heat to form the "dream team".

Wade + Bosh together on the Heat puts the two of them in a great place where there will be no lopsided dynasty in the East, simply a collection of good teams like there normally are, OR the dynasty will be their own team, so the two of them win automatically.

But the problem with that is that Bosh could easily do the same by following LeBron, or LeBron and Wade together. But LeBron is clearly the biggest mystery in all of this, and I genuinely believe that he hasn't made up his mind yet, and I think the other players are seeing this and are maybe getting weary of what might happen if they let LeBron start the falling of the dominos so to speak.

Plus, if Wade + Bosh are signed in Miami, and LeBron decides to stay in Cleveland or go elsewhere, the Heat in theory could still sign another max FA, or sign 2-3 solid guys instead to build a core around Wade/Bosh. If the Heat managed to be in the middle of the pack in the East the last few years with essentially only Wade, then the addition of Bosh and some quality role players would surely catapault them to the top.

As happy as I am with the Wizards' potential progress over the next few years, and I am willing to be patient, I still can't help but be jealous of the Heat right now. So many good options. Worst case scenario they resign Wade and no one else comes, but they have a **** of cap space for the future and they likely make the playoffs again in the meantime.

[Hoopalotta]

From what it sounds like...

Honestly, we can't take any one rumor very seriously, including what I posted above. It's just completely out of control and I'm sure a great deal of misinformation is being deliberately put out there.

Thing is, if it's true that the Raptors don't want Beasley and nobody else will take him for cap space, Bron to Miami is next to impossible anyway.

[verbal8]

From what it sounds like...

Honestly, we can't take any one rumor very seriously, including what I posted above. It's just completely out of control and I'm sure a great deal of misinformation is being deliberately put out there.

Thing is, if it's true that the Raptors don't want Beasley and nobody else will take him for cap space, Bron to Miami is next to impossible anyway.

I think Minnesota would take him if the Heat sent cash with him(at $3 million he barely costs more than the minimum). Probably some over the cap teams will TPEs might be interested, but are holding out that someone better is available.

[Hoopalotta]

We'll have to see what happens; as of now, it sounds like Minnesota wants to spend their cap on a free agent.

Hoopsworld Wiretap:

Wolves Schedule Meetings With Gay, Lee
The NBA's free-agency clock finally clanged late Wednesday night and Memphis forward Rudy Gay and New York forward David Lee quickly accepted the Timberwolves' invitation to visit Minnesota.

Gay is scheduled to meet team officials and tour Target Center on Thursday. Lee is expected Saturday.

They've also offered $5 million to their Euro big, Pekovic.

Things could change later in July as teams strike out on their targets, but I think if anyone had already offered cap space for Beasely, the deal would have already been complete.

[rockymac52]

Just wait until the T'Wolves realize they can only pay these free agents like 9 or 10 million after the Pekovic signing. I think they'll come around to a very recent #2 pick who has been far from a bust for free.

[Hoopalotta]

Rocky, is that based off of actual reports? I've never heard anything about Beazer to 'Sota.

Also keep in mind that it only helps the HEAT if it happens in the next few days to a week.

[verbal8]

Rocky, is that based off of actual reports? I've never heard anything about Beazer to 'Sota.

Beasley and the Twolves was just speculation on my part.

[rockymac52]

I was responding to verbal's speculation haha.

[Hoopalotta]

Excellent, from here, I think we can get this one to make the wiretap.

I could see teams being interested in later July, but I wonder if at that point, the HEAT are to where they'd rather just trade him for some kind of point guard or center instead of cap space. I'm not sure.

[dangermouse]

Wade/LeBron/Bosh with scrubs as filler wouldnt take the Spurs to 7.

Wade/Bosh/Haywood and some other good roleplayer types and things get a bit scarier.