Mike Miller....lakers no longer interested

Post #201 » by **dockingsched** » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:07 am

stunnar0b wrote:mike miller is out the question, too many inside people confirming

and to think i actually believed he was coming here, this sucks as_s

the steve blake signing didn't tip u off?

chefy · Post #202 » by **chefy** » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:18 am

"Source told FOXSports.com the Lakers have given Mike Miller until next Tuesday. Miller, per source, spoke with Kobe last night."

iQon · Post #203 » by **iQon** » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:23 am

What does the vet minimum have to do with Sasha's contract? That's an exception for teams OVER the cap; something Washington is far from. And even if they were over it, Sasha's Bird rights is another exception that carries over in it's own right...

daddyfivestar · Post #204 » by **daddyfivestar** » Sat Jul 3, 2010 4:13 am

joe.linnen wrote:I really want him here, but I don't see how we can get him other than a S&T. I don't see Washington taking on Farmar, Vujacic, or Morrison for Mike Miller. What do you guys think?

pipedream- Wiz like Shann and take Shann (s/t 2.38m), 3 mil cash, '11 1st and Mia's '11 2nd for Miller s/t (3.0)?

They get 2 picks, basically get Shann for price of a minimum player.
Miller has to agree to the lowball though.

billmatic · Post #205 » by **billmatic** » Sat Jul 3, 2010 2:16 pm

iQon wrote::lol: What does the vet minimum have to do with Sasha's contract? That's an exception for teams OVER the cap; something Washington is far from. And even if they were over it, Sasha's Bird rights is another exception that carries over in it's own right...

The vets minimum is not an exception, it's just a salary number. The point is, Washington can sign someone for 1 mil who can give them more than Sasha can at 5.5 mil. So, there's no chance they sign and trade Miller for Sasha. It makes zero sense for the Wizards and only the most delusional of Lakers fans would even entertain the idea.

Post #206 » by **snaquille oatmeal** » Sat Jul 3, 2010 2:52 pm

when was the last time we knew of a trade or a signing by Lakers before it happened? yeah, Mike Miller was probably never on the table. so it's time to lay off the Miller pipe. /thread

Post #207 » by **Kilroy** » Sat Jul 3, 2010 2:56 pm

Off the table via twitter... Next...

Raja? Tmac? Who else?

billmatic · Post #208 » by **billmatic** » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:03 pm

It's a soft cap with restrictions. The only way you can sign players when you're over the cap is with the MLE, the LLE or if you sign a player to the vet minimum salary. We've now used up the majority of the MLE, so unless Miller wants to play for peanuts, we can't sign him.

joe.linnen · Post #209 » by **joe.linnen** » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:13 pm

snaquille oatmeal wrote:when was the last time we knew of a trade or a signing by Lakers before it happened? yeah, Mike Miller was probably never on the table. so it's time to lay off the Miller pipe. /thread

Thats is true. We had no clue about Gasol at all

Post #210 » by **dockingsched** » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:15 pm

guys, there seems to be a lot of people with no knowledge of the current CBA.

please read up here if you want to become familiar with it:

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm

RamonSessions7 · Post #211 » by **RamonSessions7** » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:47 pm

http://twitter.com/goodmanonfox

"Source told FOXSports.com that the Lakers offer to Mike Miller is no longer on the table following the Steve Blake signing."

This ship has now sailed for good

Post #212 » by **Kilroy** » Sat Jul 3, 2010 4:06 pm

billmatic wrote:It's a soft cap with restrictions. The only way you can sign players when you're over the cap is with the MLE, the LLE or if you sign a player to the vet minimum salary. We've now used up the majority of the MLE, so unless Miller wants to play for peanuts, we can't sign him.

Thanks. So I guess the lesson here is that when LA are the Champs and they come knocking... Get on board or get out the way...

vitamin-water · Post #213 » by **vitamin-water** » Sat Jul 3, 2010 4:17 pm

please don't take miller.

-nuggets fan

Post #214 » by **snaquille oatmeal** » Sat Jul 3, 2010 5:29 pm

dcash4 wrote:guys, there seems to be a lot of people with no knowledge of the current CBA.

please read up here if you want to become familiar with it:

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm

where is Davidse?

daddyfivestar · Post #215 » by **daddyfivestar** » Sat Jul 3, 2010 5:31 pm

How the Lakers could land Mike Miller

Trade Vujacic+ '11 1st+ 3m cash to Clippers for Steve Blake S&T, instead of via MLE

- Clips, provided they strike out in big name FA, have no backup SG right now.
- They get experienced vet for 2.47 mil; their backcourt looks like:
Baron/Bledsoe/(Warren)
Gordon/Vujacic/Warren
- And most importantly, get the 1st back they lost in the Bledsoe deal.

Lakers:
Then put that MLE back out there for Miller!
Blake still gets 4/16 but it's 4.3, 3.7, 4.0, 4.0 (which benefits him if there's a lockout)

TonyMontana · Post #216 » by **TonyMontana** » Sat Jul 3, 2010 5:38 pm

daddyfivestar wrote:How the Lakers could land Mike Miller

Trade Vujacic+ '11 1st+ 3m cash to Clippers for Steve Blake S&T, instead of via MLE

- Clips, provided they strike out in big name FA, have no backup SG right now.
- They get experienced vet for 2.47 mil; their backcourt looks like:
Baron/Bledsoe/(Warren)
Gordon/Vujacic/Warren
- And most importantly, get the 1st back they lost in the Bledsoe deal.

Lakers:
Then put that MLE back out there for Miller!
Blake still gets 4/16 but it's 4.3, 3.7, 4.0, 4.0 (which benefits him if there's a lockout)

We cant even trade Sasha for a bag of peanuts.

detroitboy416 · Post #217 » by **detroitboy416** » Sat Jul 3, 2010 5:54 pm

so doe this mean no mike miller or raja bell? cause of the steve blake signing?? i think if the lakers signone of those guys n grab a decent center 3 peat is in reach.....

fongie24 · Post #218 » by **fongie24** » Sat Jul 3, 2010 6:34 pm

detroitboy416 wrote:so doe this mean no mike miller or raja bell? cause of the steve blake signing?? i think if the lakers signone of those guys n grab a decent center 3 peat is in reach.....

raja, maybe... miller, no way..

we just dont have the money to give miller the money he wants now that we got steve blake. if a miracle happens and we worked out that S&T with the clips then mayyybeeeee we could get miller.. but the way its looking.. theres not really a chance.. raja might come play here for the leftover 1.8 mil we have left of the MLE

Sedale Threatt · Post #219 » by **Sedale Threatt** » Sat Jul 3, 2010 6:55 pm

TonyMontana wrote:We cant even trade Sasha for a bag of peanuts.

I'd consider that a hell of a trade. I'm guessing more like a bag of moldy jock straps.

That said, it's a contract year, and he went all out for the last one, so maybe we'll get one last decent season out of him. We sure could use it.

TonyMontana · Post #220 » by **TonyMontana** » Sat Jul 3, 2010 7:07 pm

Sedale Threatt wrote: I'd consider that a hell of a trade. I'm guessing more like a bag of moldy jock straps.

Its sad isnt it?? :lol:

Nobody has any interest in this guy whatsoever.

Sedale Threatt wrote:That said, it's a contract year, and he went all out for the last one, so maybe we'll get one last decent season out of him. We sure could use it.

I agree but I hope we dont make the same mistake and resign him like we did before.