Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami

[DuckIII]

I still don't find it to be a terribly scary "core 2" players by NBA standards. Its damn good. It'll compete in the top group of the league and challeng for conference championships and perhaps titles. But its not abnormally special.

It's pretty damn special. Similar to Kobe/Gasol.

Its high quality. But its not Kobe/Gasol. Its more like Billups/Melo or Williams/Boozer or Durant/Westbrook. Which is still freaking great, and I'd love to have it.

But even with how great Kobe/Gasol is, in order to squeek out a title against a Boston team with no superstar players (at this stage in their careers) they required a cast that included Artest (who played out of his mind), Odom, Fisher and Bynum.

I'm clearly acknowledging that it could form the base of a title team. But by NBA "core 2" standards, its right in there with a group of teams. Its excellent, but nothing to be scared of.

Dynasty cores scare me. Not competitive ones. Miami has a competitive one, not a dynastic one.

Unless LeBron signs.

[blumeany]

I disagree. the 2010 Kobe was amazing in the playoffs this year. He is taller and stronger that DWade and they are about the same age. DWade has had injury problems over the past few years and Kobe has been fairly healthy.

As far as Gasol and Bosh go, I think that Gasol has stepped over the last year and pushed himself to the top of the PF food chain. Bosh had a great year(24/12) but he fails to make a difference.

We shall see though next year.

I would take Kobe/Gasol in a heartbeat.

[DuckIII]

Give it 2 years before Bosh becomes unhappy playing next to a bunch of crap. He will then demand a trade. Happens almost every time.

Oh please. They'll build a supporting caste around those guys. Come on now.

[Slip7]

oh welll wade bosh and crap sucks anyway. we'll see about lebron

you cant blame the front office, i just dont know what they could to get these guys here.

bulls better be making some moves. i dont care what just get something going. lets get boozer or lee or screw it i trade for al jefferson right now i dont care.

[DuckIII]

Funny thing is that if the Bulls get ANYONE they'll still be better than Miami and possibly even Cleveland.

No, they won't. If, for example, Bron goes back to Cleveland, there is no realistic possibility that the Bulls will be better than the Heat or the Cavs.

I don't agree with that at all.

[LoveDaBoo]

I disagree. the 2010 Kobe was amazing in the playoffs this year.

Not really. And Wade actually was amazing in the playoffs.

He is taller and stronger that DWade and they are about the same age. DWade has had injury problems over the past few years and Kobe has been fairly healthy.

Wade is 4 years younger. You have no idea what you're talking about.

As far as Gasol and Bosh go, I think that Gasol has stepped over the last year and pushed himself to the top of the PF food chain. Bosh had a great year(24/12) but he fails to make a difference.

"Fails to make a difference" is the stupidest argument ever. People always said such things of KG. It's called being on a bad team.

[umfan83]

Well atleast you have Derrick Rose to fall back on. He is 26ppg PG scorer with unlimited potential.All you need really is a player like Mike Miller and Boozer(although i think Amare would have been much better).

All we need is Miller for what? For a 2nd round playoff appearance?

[taii1234]

Bosh and Wade will be NO better than Wade and Jermaine O'Neal the last few years.

I was thinking the same thing, haha.

I think you two are just using that to cover up your hurt that Bosh isn't going to Chicago. Pat Riley only got Oneil for a temporary fix. Something to keep Wade happy for the time being. Sure, it wasn't the best trade and it didn't prove to be much. But it kept the team together, and Wade happy for the time being.

And your comparing Jermaine Oneil whose prime was with the Pacers in 2004-2005, to Bosh, whose in his prime right now. Thats like comparing MJ when he played for the wizards, to Lebron James right now.

[bad knees]

If the Bulls do not sign Boozer or Lee, and LBJ stays in Cleveland, we will be worse than: Cleveland, Boston, Orlando, Atlanta and Miami, and likely Milwaukee. Who knows about NY and NJ. Bulls better sign one of Lee or Boozer, preferably today.

[TheAdmiral]

I still don't find it to be a terribly scary "core 2" players by NBA standards. Its damn good. It'll compete in the top group of the league and challeng for conference championships and perhaps titles. But its not abnormally special.

It's pretty damn special. Similar to Kobe/Gasol.

Its high quality. But its not Kobe/Gasol. Its more like Billups/Melo or Williams/Boozer or Durant/Westbrook. Which is still freaking great, and I'd love to have it.

But even with how great Kobe/Gasol is, in order to squeek out a title against a Boston team with no superstar players (at this stage in their careers) they required a cast that included Artest (who played out of his mind), Odom, Fisher and Bynum.

I'm clearly acknowledging that it could form the base of a title team. But by NBA "core 2" standards, its right in there with a group of teams. Its excellent, but nothing to be scared of.

Dynasty cores scare me. Not competitive ones. Miami has a competitive one, not a dynastic one.

Unless LeBron signs.

The reason they're not as good as Kobe/Gasol is because of Bosh, not because of Wade. Wade's the better player between himself and Kobe. He's been better since '08-'09.

[Steve Brule]

Funny thing is that if the Bulls get ANYONE they'll still be better than Miami and possibly even Cleveland.

No, they won't. If, for example, Bron goes back to Cleveland, there is no realistic possibility that the Bulls will be better than the Heat or the Cavs.

I don't agree with that at all.

I agree with disagreeing. What's Derrick Rose? Chopped Liver? Dude's been severely overlooked during this whole FA hoopla. Even if we "strike out", we've still got a top ten player and an ass-ton of cap-space.

[Silvie Lysandra]

THIS must be a TROLL. Rose is better than anyone on the Cavs not named LeBron James. And Noah is clearly better than Varajao.

As of now, Cleveland would have the better 4-12 roster, a proven lockdown defense (though Thibs may change this) that can get to the championship round without any real offensive talent to speak of outside LBJ, and much better overall depth.

Chicago has a considerably better 2 and 3 option, but not so much better that LBJ just HAS to come running to Chicago.

And if they land a guy like Jefferson to bridge the gap even more, then unless you dump Deng and sign Boozer, there's just not enough reason for LBJ to leave home.

[LoveDaBoo]

Funny thing is that if the Bulls get ANYONE they'll still be better than Miami and possibly even Cleveland.

No, they won't. If, for example, Bron goes back to Cleveland, there is no realistic possibility that the Bulls will be better than the Heat or the Cavs.

I don't agree with that at all.

Well, you're wrong then.

[MGB8]

Wade and Kobe are close now, and so are Gasol and Bosh. I think that it's a toss-up between the two, quite frankly. Both Kobe and Wade have some injury things. Gasol is a touch older then Bosh, but both are about the same quality. LA obviously has a much better supporting cast, but Miami will still have money after Wade-Bosh, and then an MLE next year, and eventually the Raptor's pick.

NY, if it gets Lebron, is more than relevant. It becomes a title contender, if not this year, next. Lebron is better than Wade (or Kobe). Amare isn't quite as good as Gasol or Bosh, but only a notch below. And yes, Amare has health concerns, but so what. Chandler is a decent (if off injury) SG to put around Lebron. Gallinari becomes a 6 man. Douglas isn't a bad backup pg. And the Knicks will also be able to add next year - Curry's contract or the MLE, etc.

Even if Lebron doesn't come, if Amare stays healthy, the Knicks are much improved and have a shot next season - maybe not for a superstar to put them into contention - but still, from a borderline playoff team (without Lebron, with Amare), to a top 4 type Eastern team. Given from where they are coming from, that's great for knicks fans.

The problem with Chicago is that we are already a low end playoff team. If we add Boozer and a good shooting SF (e.g. - not a breaking down Ray Allen, not a SF in Mike Miller or non-shooter Josh Childress [who I like at SF, but who is a SF]) we might also push up to top 4 Eastern team. But the Bulls won't be a contender without getting Rose a "2nd star" to play with. And Noah's not that guy - he's a 3rd guy on a contending team - way too limited offensively.

[Jeffster81]

I feel bad for Rose and Noah. If the Bulls strike out in FA what does that say to Rose/Noah? These "Great" players who sign elsewhere are basically telling Rose/Noah we think you are good, just not good enough to play on the same team with. To me, I would be offended. These player essentially lied to my face. I know Noah will be offended and I believe he'll work extra hard to prove he is worth playing with, now Rose is another story. If Rose develops that "f---k them" attitude and play with that attitude in 2010-11, I think these FA will regret not signing with the Bulls, especially when Thibo's defensive schemes lock their pansies butt down.

With that said, it still sucks that Bosh and Wade are not serious about their career. But oh well. Privately I am still hoping this is a scare tactic by Bosh into getting Toronto to give him the max in a SNT with the Bulls. I know that's a longshot, but still..............

Now if James goes to Miami, here is my plan, I will watch the Bulls till the end of there season, then I will not watch the NBA again till the next season. Pro Wrasslin would like more unpredictable then the NBA if James joins Miami.

[deadstock_bM]

Well that 2nd meeting with us from Wade was utterly a waste of time then.

[fudgie]

If LeBron signs with Miami we are so f***ed.

I'm just praying we get LeBron and then follow it up with a second tier guy like Boozer.

[WhiteM0nkey]

chrisbosh

What's all the fuss about this morning? I woke up to a ton of emails, texts and missed calls

[Woody Allen]

http://twitter.com/chrisbosh/status/17955164539

What's all the fuss about this morning? I woke up to a ton of emails, texts and missed calls.

Somebody kill this guy please.

[TheAdmiral]

I feel bad for Rose and Noah.

Co-sign.