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Reinsdorf talks Big 3; Regrets Dealing Hinrich

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Re: Reinsdorf talks Big 3; Regrets Dealing Hinrich 

Post#41 » by kyrv » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:12 pm

Wang Chung wrote:Is that why Reinsdorf is over compensating by bringing in 2 white guys and overpaying for Redick?


What are you talking about?
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Re: Reinsdorf talks Big 3; Regrets Dealing Hinrich 

Post#42 » by ELCIDz » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:14 pm

Vintage wrote:
ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:id be 20x more confident in beating the heat had we kept hinrich to guard him. snap :(



Why?

Hinrich sucked something fierce last year.


becasue at the very least Kirk >nobody...which what we have now.
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Re: Reinsdorf talks Big 3; Regrets Dealing Hinrich 

Post#43 » by SlikRik7 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:20 pm

It's torture to think that if we moved Deng we could have fit those three under the cap with the same deals they signed in Miami. I'm pretty sure Deng could have been move in much the same way that Beasley was after the three committed. Instead of Mike Miller and Udonis Haslem they then could have been playing with Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah. In the end I think those three guys just wanted to party in Miami.


Rose 5,546,160
Noah 3,128,536
James Johnson 1,713,600
Taj Gibson 1,117,680
LeBron James 14,800,000
Chris Bosh 14,800,000
Dwayne Wade 14,300,000
Total 55,405,976
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Re: Reinsdorf talks Big 3; Regrets Dealing Hinrich 

Post#44 » by Ax2SG » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:27 pm

I will definitely miss Kirk, he was my 2nd favorite after Rose.
Kind of happy that we landed Korver tho, I've loved his jumper since the old 76ers days. :)
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Re: Reinsdorf talks Big 3; Regrets Dealing Hinrich 

Post#45 » by Ben » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:32 pm

SlikRik7 wrote:It's torture to think that if we moved Deng we could have fit those three under the cap with the same deals they signed in Miami. I'm pretty sure Deng could have been move in much the same way that Beasley was after the three committed. Instead of Mike Miller and Udonis Haslem they then could have been playing with Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah. In the end I think those three guys just wanted to party in Miami.


Rose 5,546,160
Noah 3,128,536
James Johnson 1,713,600
Taj Gibson 1,117,680
LeBron James 14,800,000
Chris Bosh 14,800,000
Dwayne Wade 14,300,000
Total 55,405,976


Don't torture yourself. They wanted to play in Miami, not here. You don't think that the FO could have dumped Lu's salary for nothing, and would have, if they thought they could have signed all those guys at those salaries? New York could have done it, too; apparently, that was their pitch. The 3 Amigos chose Miami. Let it go.
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Re: Reinsdorf talks Big 3; Regrets Dealing Hinrich 

Post#46 » by kulaz3000 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:33 pm

I have no doubt that Kirk will return and finish his career with the Bulls, and rightly so!
Why so serious?
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Re: Reinsdorf talks Big 3; Regrets Dealing Hinrich 

Post#47 » by Tommy Udo 6 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:40 pm

It was written:

Reinsdorf felt the intentions of James and Bosh were honest.

"I don't think they would have wasted their time," he said. "I think Wade, in his own mind, was going to go back to Miami unless he heard something that made him change his mind. But I think LeBron and Chris were definitely open-minded.

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JR is real good at reading people. I doubt he would have been fooled by those two for long.

JR may be saying these things to avoid a fine or not burn bridges - but i doubt he really believes those 2 were honest & open-minded.
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Re: Reinsdorf talks Big 3; Regrets Dealing Hinrich 

Post#48 » by SlikRik7 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:41 pm

I know. If they had wanted to play here they would have found a way.
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Re: Reinsdorf talks Big 3; Regrets Dealing Hinrich 

Post#49 » by theanimal23 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:41 pm

Jerry will go after him with the full MLE in 2 years
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Re: Reinsdorf talks Big 3; Regrets Dealing Hinrich 

Post#50 » by ELCIDz » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:50 pm

Tommy Udo 6 wrote:It was written:

Reinsdorf felt the intentions of James and Bosh were honest.

"I don't think they would have wasted their time," he said. "I think Wade, in his own mind, was going to go back to Miami unless he heard something that made him change his mind. But I think LeBron and Chris were definitely open-minded.

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JR is real good at reading people. I doubt he would have been fooled by those two for long.

JR may be saying these things to avoid a fine or not burn bridges - but i doubt he really believes those 2 were honest & open-minded.



I am fairly certain as well. JR is a self made millionare, whereas Wade and co. are just ball players. Granted they are self made as well but didn't do so with thier wits alone, but rather simply because they are great athletes. I dont see Wade and his champion-chip seeking self pulling one over on JR.
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Re: Reinsdorf talks Big 3; Regrets Dealing Hinrich 

Post#51 » by The Force. » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:55 pm

I don't miss Kirk at all. Ben Gordon is the player who we could really use right now...
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Post#52 » by monsterman » Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:05 am

It could be worse. At least we still have Luol Deng. :cheesygrin:
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Re: Reinsdorf talks Big 3; Regrets Dealing Hinrich 

Post#53 » by Marc » Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:05 am

Hinrich for $17M/2 years + 17 pick might be better than Reedick for $20/3 years.
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Re: Reinsdorf talks Big 3; Regrets Dealing Hinrich 

Post#54 » by cubbiefan009 » Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:09 am

Eh it is what ti is...we went for it and have to move on now. Still some great FA signings this off-season.
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Re: Reinsdorf talks Big 3; Regrets Dealing Hinrich 

Post#55 » by Addicted123 » Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:11 am

The Force. wrote:I don't miss Kirk at all. Ben Gordon is the player who we could really use right now...


Landing Boozer saved free agency. It would be pretty depressing heading into the season having gutted half the team for nothing. The moves the front office made have been a success because of Boozer so it's hard to complain in hindsight about Kirk/Gordon.

But I do agree with you about Gordon. With Stoudemire/Boozer/Bosh/Lee available for the taking, nobody would have killed the Bulls if they simply kept the SG position filled and focused their entire effort on landing one of those PFs. Given the amount of teams clearing salary, the odds were against the Bulls to sign two star free agents.

On another note, given Arn Tellum's relationship with Reinsdorf, I wonder if they expected Joe Johnson to be available and were a little blind-sided by Atlanta's offer. When Atlanta offered the max, Joe Johnson decided to take the money.
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Re: Reinsdorf talks Big 3; Regrets Dealing Hinrich 

Post#56 » by The 6ft Hurdle » Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:13 am

If only Reinsdorf could perceive of BG and Thabo as his favorite sons as well.
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Re: Reinsdorf talks Big 3; Regrets Dealing Hinrich 

Post#57 » by DelonteLuvYoMom » Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:13 am

FROM KANSAS, #12 KURT HINRICH!

If we get Redick, I won't even miss Kurt.
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Re: Reinsdorf talks Big 3; Regrets Dealing Hinrich 

Post#58 » by coldfish » Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:18 am

Right now, the Bulls have basically got nothing for Hinrich. I can understand the hand wringing. That being said, if they end up landing Brewer and Redick for Hinrich and the 17, it would have been a good trade. So basically the verdict is still out on this transaction.
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Re: Reinsdorf talks Big 3; Regrets Dealing Hinrich 

Post#59 » by Rerisen » Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:21 am

If we can get J.J. I'm convinced he will help us more than Kirk. Like Kirk he hustles on D, even if he isn't always effective. But he is so much more efficient as a scorer, and the indirect benefit to Rose is going to have a multiplicative effect on the team's offense, to a degree much more helpful than any D we lose there.

The Bulls will still have a lot of defensive players in Noah, Gibson, Deng, and hopefully Asik. And I expect Derrick to grow on defense (he already began to last year) with his innate tools and Thibodeau's tutoring.

If we get Brewer instead, he will prevent any loss of defense, and actually matches up to big guards better than Kirk, while also providing a good running mate for Rose in transition, as well as an excellent finisher.

We will lose shooting in the halfcourt but would still be ok with the Rose/Boozer PnR.
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Re: Reinsdorf talks Big 3; Regrets Dealing Hinrich 

Post#60 » by HomoSapien » Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:22 am

Oh man, this Kirk love is getting to be too much. He's been pretty bad his last few full seasons.
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