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Re: Brewer's Future? 

Post#41 » by shrink » Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:40 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:Is moving Brewer is even an option, I thought we were in the neighborhood of the minimum team salary


I believe the minimum salary doesn't kick in until the start of the season (NJN is still below), so a guy like Kahn would have time to do 20-30 more deals before then. A team would just pay an extra tax even if they were under.
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Post#42 » by cisco » Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:32 pm

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cisco wrote:Hey guys, Celtic fan here.

Is Brewer available for trade? All we have is Rasheed Wallace's contract and a couple of rookies we drafted. I guess we can sweeten the deal with a pick. I noticed the there's a logjam at Brewer's position and you might be willing to part with him.

Also, what do you think of the Celtics targeting the young Brewer for a playoff run? Do you think he's mature enough or do you think we should be looking for a veteran with some experience?

I'm sure Danny Ainge is looking for a veteran player though.

Thanks in advance for your responses.


How about Martel Webster and Ryan Hollins for Wallace and a pick?


I'd do this deal at this point. We need a defender at the 2/3 spot. We have Marquis Daniels, but I wouldn't trust that he can stay healthy. Would give up a first rounder.
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Re: Brewer's Future? 

Post#43 » by Devilzsidewalk » Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:32 pm

Hollins is in Cleveland now, too late
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Post#44 » by PerkinsFor3 » Mon Aug 2, 2010 10:18 am

cisco wrote:I'd do this deal at this point. We need a defender at the 2/3 spot. We have Marquis Daniels, but I wouldn't trust that he can stay healthy. Would give up a first rounder.


How much salary would you have then? Almost nothing?
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Re: Brewer's Future? 

Post#45 » by revprodeji » Tue Aug 3, 2010 6:20 pm

This could be an interesting story line. Brewer could be the starting 2, or he could be the first swing off the bench, or he could be lost on the bench.

He is one of the only Mchale players to stay. He is a good fit for what we are doing and had a decent year last year. The problem is he has the same skill set as many of our other players and he is older.

The season is basically a try-out and see what sticks until the deadline. brewer v Webster should be interesting.
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Post#46 » by funkatron101 » Tue Aug 3, 2010 6:32 pm

A bold prediction, but he could flirt with being an 18-20 ppg player. A lot of things have to go right for him, but I could see Webster under-performing and Johnson struggling with nagging injuries.

His TS% was up to .502 last season, without Big Al, the time of possession decreases and more options have to open up. No more feeding it to Al and hoping for the best.

Or as most of us envision, he could get lost in the shuffle and get traded. He's a big question mark right now.
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Post#47 » by revprodeji » Tue Aug 3, 2010 11:03 pm

Brewer will never be an 18-20 player. He simply does not have the handles. He can be a very complimentary wing with his defense, athletic ability and outside shot. The key will be having a wing that can score next to him.

Why would we think Johnson will have nagging injuries?
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Re: Brewer's Future? 

Post#48 » by Klomp » Tue Aug 3, 2010 11:08 pm

revprodeji wrote:Why would we think Johnson will have nagging injuries?


Because people freak out after he didn't play again in Summer League after he got injured.
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Post#49 » by shangrila » Tue Aug 3, 2010 11:10 pm

Klomp wrote:
revprodeji wrote:Why would we think Johnson will have nagging injuries?


Because people freak out after he didn't play again in Summer League after he got injured.

And because he had a hand injury during almost his entire season, then had a toe injury during a workout and followed that up with a ham string injury (?) in summer league.

Not saying I agree, but the evidence is there for sure.
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Post#50 » by Dewey » Wed Aug 4, 2010 6:53 pm

shangrila wrote:
Klomp wrote:
revprodeji wrote:Why would we think Johnson will have nagging injuries?


Because people freak out after he didn't play again in Summer League after he got injured.

And because he had a hand injury during almost his entire season, then had a toe injury during a workout and followed that up with a ham string injury (?) in summer league.

Not saying I agree, but the evidence is there for sure.


Well ... it does make you think, but also shows the value of team depth. For as slender Brewer is I always wonderd if he'd be injured alot, but he's been pretty durable outside his knee injury. Ya never know.
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Re: Brewer's Future? 

Post#51 » by funkatron101 » Wed Aug 4, 2010 7:19 pm

revprodeji wrote:Brewer will never be an 18-20 player. He simply does not have the handles. He can be a very complimentary wing with his defense, athletic ability and outside shot. The key will be having a wing that can score next to him.

Why would we think Johnson will have nagging injuries?

It took Gerald Wallace 6 seasons to average 18 ppg. Would you have said that he would never be a 18-20 ppg player after his third season as well?

It's certainly not a forgone conclusion that Johnson will be injury prone, but he already has had some small nagging type injuries as shangrila pointed out.

As I said, a number of things would have to fall into place for Brewer to achieve this, but if given playing time, some specific plays drawn for him, and if we continues to improve, I don't think 18 ppg is outlandish. Per 36 minutes last season, he was at 15.5 ppg.

And this is coming from a guy who isn't a huge Brewer fan. The reality though is that he will likely be gone by the trade deadline, or the off season with only a small handful of games in which he shined in.
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Post#52 » by Dewey » Wed Aug 4, 2010 8:02 pm

Random people continue to say Brewer will be gone by the deadline ... :o

Pure speculation based on the general belief that he will not continue to develop, otherwise, there would be no point to trading him versus others like Webster or Ellington, etc....
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Re: Brewer's Future? 

Post#53 » by funkatron101 » Wed Aug 4, 2010 8:19 pm

Dewey wrote:Random people continue to say Brewer will be gone by the deadline ... :o

Pure speculation based on the general belief that he will not continue to develop, otherwise, there would be no point to trading him versus others like Webster or Ellington, etc....

There are more reasons than that. 1. His rookie deal is running out soon. 2. Johnson and Webster are going to make it more difficult for him to get minutes. 3. The dreaded "McHale's pick, better more him out" theory. 4. We probably have to move one of those guys if we make a deadline trade. Webster is too recent of an acquisition and Ellington probably won't have much value alone. Brewer seems like a logical choice depending on what we get back.
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