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Post#1 » by AdonalFoyle4Prez » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:48 pm

T-Mac's deal with the Bulls have slowly died down. Seems like the guy isn't getting many offers from others teams due to his history of injuries and underachieving in the league. If that's the case, do you guys think there's any chance the Warriors should sign him to the MLE/Veteran's Min? He can be 1/4 of the scoring option among Curry, Lee, and Ellis, he can really dish it out, and be our hero in the 4th quarter when the chance is there. He would be fortunate enough to know that he's still valued if we sign him and gets him motivated.
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Post#2 » by Amazing Curry » Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:28 pm

Pass. He will collapse after a couple of runs down the court in our system. IMO, Cleveland should look into T-Mac because honestly, who do they have besides Mo Williams now? And while they're at it, they should sign Iverson and Shaq too. Just throwing stuff out there lol.
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Post#3 » by Visigoth » Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:29 pm

Amazing Curry wrote:Pass. He will collapse after a couple of runs down the court in our system. IMO, Cleveland should look into T-Mac because honestly, who do they have besides Mo Williams now? And while they're at it, they should sign Iverson and Shaq too. Just throwing stuff out there lol.



Yeah, who needs the Miami Big 3.

That's interesting actually. Prime Lebron-Wade-Bosh vs. Prime Shaq-AI-McGrady... who ya got?
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Post#4 » by Amazing Curry » Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:33 pm

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Amazing Curry wrote:Pass. He will collapse after a couple of runs down the court in our system. IMO, Cleveland should look into T-Mac because honestly, who do they have besides Mo Williams now? And while they're at it, they should sign Iverson and Shaq too. Just throwing stuff out there lol.



Yeah, who needs the Miami Big 3.

That's interesting actually. Prime Lebron-Wade-Bosh vs. Prime Shaq-AI-McGrady... who ya got?


Let's not even talk about primes. If Cleveland really do sign those 3 and they somehow have some gas left in the tank, I feel like they might be able to compete with Miami. Cleveland has a deeper bench than Miami, and I don't think it's wise to play the Miami 3 40+ mpg each game. :o
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Post#5 » by St.Nick » Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:33 pm

It seems like he's garnering interest but then gets examined by team doctors who give him a big thumbs down.

No team wants to spend a couple million on a guy that will miss 60 games, perhaps with a superstar attitude to boot.

McGrady is becoming the TO of the NBA.
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Post#6 » by KR4 » Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:37 pm

At least TO plays in the games
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Post#7 » by Tommy Udo 6 » Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:32 pm

TMac's workout was private - so no one knows except team officials if he still has skills other than shooting the ball.

However, Bulls clearly want TMac to be a reserve & to have no problem with it.

Yet, it was TMac & his people who revealed the workout and TMac turned it into a media circus. This is not what the Bulls wanted. It seems obvious that "Me Mac" is still alive & I dont think the Bulls (and most teams) want any part of that.
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Post#8 » by KR4 » Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:42 pm

I know I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole.

The fact that the Rockets did better without him in the last few seasons is telling.
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Post#9 » by sanddude909 » Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:28 pm

Visigoth wrote:
Amazing Curry wrote:Pass. He will collapse after a couple of runs down the court in our system. IMO, Cleveland should look into T-Mac because honestly, who do they have besides Mo Williams now? And while they're at it, they should sign Iverson and Shaq too. Just throwing stuff out there lol.



Yeah, who needs the Miami Big 3.

That's interesting actually. Prime Lebron-Wade-Bosh vs. Prime Shaq-AI-McGrady... who ya got?


Prime Shaq when motivated is so much better than Prime Bosh that he would compensate for the AI/McGrady versus Wade/Lebron matchup.

Assuming the rest of the squads are equal, I'll take Prime Shaq / AI / McGrady every time.
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Post#10 » by toffee1 » Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:31 pm

sanddude909 wrote:
Visigoth wrote:
Amazing Curry wrote:Pass. He will collapse after a couple of runs down the court in our system. IMO, Cleveland should look into T-Mac because honestly, who do they have besides Mo Williams now? And while they're at it, they should sign Iverson and Shaq too. Just throwing stuff out there lol.



Yeah, who needs the Miami Big 3.

That's interesting actually. Prime Lebron-Wade-Bosh vs. Prime Shaq-AI-McGrady... who ya got?


Prime Shaq when motivated is so much better than Prime Bosh that he would compensate for the AI/McGrady versus Wade/Lebron matchup.

Assuming the rest of the squads are equal, I'll take Prime Shaq / AI / McGrady every time.


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Post#11 » by methdefense » Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:45 pm

Isn't it great? Dubs could have one more addition to their infirmary.
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Post#12 » by Sleepy51 » Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:50 pm

If his workout and med exam with the Bulls went well enough that they really did want him as a backup, and it's only the "role" issue that fouled things, then the W's should take a look if they can do it on a short term contract. The reality is, we do not have a starting SF. If he passed the bulls physical then we should be taking a serious look.
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Post#13 » by Coxy » Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:12 pm

Bad idea.
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Post#14 » by and1GS » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:05 pm

Visigoth wrote:
Amazing Curry wrote:Pass. He will collapse after a couple of runs down the court in our system. IMO, Cleveland should look into T-Mac because honestly, who do they have besides Mo Williams now? And while they're at it, they should sign Iverson and Shaq too. Just throwing stuff out there lol.



Yeah, who needs the Miami Big 3.

That's interesting actually. Prime Lebron-Wade-Bosh vs. Prime Shaq-AI-McGrady... who ya got?


That's interesting because while Bron/Wade are fantastic passers and playmakers McGrady/AI are not in any way good passers. They got "**** I'm triple teamed" assists and "**** why'd I drive inside, BAIL OUT PASS TYME!" dimes. Shaq/Bosh are also really different players as well...Shaq demands the ball and Bosh doesn't.

I don't think Shaq/AI/McG would work just because it has two of the biggest volume shooters I've ever seen in my life. THATS a situation where the "only one ball" argument makes sense.
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Post#15 » by cladden » Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:41 am

and1GS wrote:
Visigoth wrote:
Amazing Curry wrote:Pass. He will collapse after a couple of runs down the court in our system. IMO, Cleveland should look into T-Mac because honestly, who do they have besides Mo Williams now? And while they're at it, they should sign Iverson and Shaq too. Just throwing stuff out there lol.



Yeah, who needs the Miami Big 3.

That's interesting actually. Prime Lebron-Wade-Bosh vs. Prime Shaq-AI-McGrady... who ya got?


That's interesting because while Bron/Wade are fantastic passers and playmakers McGrady/AI are not in any way good passers. They got "**** I'm triple teamed" assists and "**** why'd I drive inside, BAIL OUT PASS TYME!" dimes. Shaq/Bosh are also really different players as well...Shaq demands the ball and Bosh doesn't.

I don't think Shaq/AI/McG would work just because it has two of the biggest volume shooters I've ever seen in my life. THATS a situation where the "only one ball" argument makes sense.


I think you're being very rough on AI and McGrady's passing here. They're both very able passers IMO. They've both been top dogs for most of their careers but have always had high assist numbers (of course partially due to dominating the ball).
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Post#16 » by and1GS » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:44 am

They're able passers, but not good playmakers. AI passed cause he was tripled, it was obvious he wanted to shoot, shoot, shoot...same with T-Mac in his Orlando days.

LeBron has a PG mindset and is one of the best passers in the NBA. Wade also has that PG instinct, though not at Bron's level...that wasn't apparent in T-Mac/AI. High assist numbers don't always mean you're a great passer...by that logic Monta is one of the best playmakers in the NBA.
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Post#17 » by old rem » Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:19 pm

AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:T-Mac's deal with the Bulls have slowly died down. Seems like the guy isn't getting many offers from others teams due to his history of injuries and underachieving in the league. If that's the case, do you guys think there's any chance the Warriors should sign him to the MLE/Veteran's Min? He can be 1/4 of the scoring option among Curry, Lee, and Ellis, he can really dish it out, and be our hero in the 4th quarter when the chance is there. He would be fortunate enough to know that he's still valued if we sign him and gets him motivated.


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BEST CASE.....he's a usable backup with no future on a team in serious need of a FUTURE....having blown away the one they had. The Knicks and Bulls,so far,have seen NO sign of the original t Mac.
He no longer seems to care,waste of a roster spot.

The player you describe.....is history.
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Post#18 » by realfung » Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:33 pm

Amazing Curry wrote:Pass. He will collapse after a couple of runs down the court in our system. IMO, Cleveland should look into T-Mac because honestly, who do they have besides Mo Williams now? And while they're at it, they should sign Iverson and Shaq too. Just throwing stuff out there lol.



they have jamison and SHAQ.....
but you are right, who else.

T-Mac is a big risk, like Yao Ming, but high risk high return and fail.
Teams like him but the real question is T-Mac has to accept the reserve role, like 15 minutes behind Deng or Brewer.
Warriors should take him and off the bench too.
Our main guys are still Monta and Curry.
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Post#19 » by and1GS » Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:27 am

T-Mac is like AI...he will NEVER be cool with a reserve role. if you make him a reserve he'll act like he's supposed to be the team superstar whenever he's in the game.
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Post#20 » by don nelson » Sun Aug 1, 2010 3:25 am

and1GS wrote:T-Mac is like AI...he will NEVER be cool with a reserve role. if you make him a reserve he'll act like he's supposed to be the team superstar whenever he's in the game.

Actually T-Mac would absolutely demand to be treated like the MVP player in his imagination. Here's an excerpt from ESPN's Marc Stein on why the Bulls are hesitant about signing T-Mac:

Sources close to the process, as they did Monday after McGrady’s workout and sit-down with team officials, continue to describe the prospect of a T-Mac signing as “unlikely” after he spoke at length -- to the media and apparently those officials as well -- of his intent to try to force his way into a prominent role with the Bulls when they were looking for him to show a blanket willingness to accept a limited role.

If the Bulls ultimately do relent and commit to a T-Mac experiment, since they do need another scoring threat on the perimeter, it’s believed that they will insist on McGrady accepting a non-guaranteed deal for next season so they can let him go at any time without financial hesitation if they deem the experiment to be failing.

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