REVIS ISLAND IS BACK.

hobojoe2131 · Post #61 » by **hobojoe2131** » Mon Sep 6, 2010 5:11 pm

xKLNx Phenom wrote:
hobojoe2131 wrote:Resigning MLBs >>>> WRs

Well, MLB isn't THAT important of a position. Not like a LT/QB/NG, but I'd agree just because Harris is probably the 2nd best LB in the NFL, and he's home grown.

He is not the 2nd best LB in the NFL. MLB? Maybe, but more like top 5. But LB? No freakin chance

And what is a NG?

ComboGuardCity · Post #62 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Mon Sep 6, 2010 5:12 pm

I think Kyle Wilson will be a Pro Bowl corner. He's not better than Cromartie yet, but I think by the time the playoffs roll around everyone will know his name.

hobojoe2131 · Post #63 » by **hobojoe2131** » Mon Sep 6, 2010 5:13 pm

ComboGuardCity wrote:I think Kyle Wilson will be a Pro Bowl corner. He's not better than Cromartie yet, but I think by the time the playoffs roll around everyone will know his name.

A Pro Bowl corner? He hasn't even played a snap in the NFL

Post #64 » by **moocow007** » Mon Sep 6, 2010 5:17 pm

hobojoe2131 wrote:
xKLNx Phenom wrote:
hobojoe2131 wrote:Resigning MLBs >>>> WRs

Well, MLB isn't THAT important of a position. Not like a LT/QB/NG, but I'd agree just because Harris is probably the 2nd best LB in the NFL, and he's home grown.

He is not the 2nd best LB in the NFL. MLB? Maybe, but more like top 5. But LB? No freakin chance

And what is a NG?

Nose Guard.

ComboGuardCity · Post #65 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Mon Sep 6, 2010 5:17 pm

hobojoe2131 wrote:
ComboGuardCity wrote:I think Kyle Wilson will be a Pro Bowl corner. He's not better than Cromartie yet, but I think by the time the playoffs roll around everyone will know his name.

A Pro Bowl corner? He hasn't even played a snap in the NFL

I saw him in college and though it doesn't always translate to the NFL, I think he has all the talent to be a pro bowl corner. He's not lightning quick, but plays smart and has excellent hands. I think those two attributes are what's most important for a corner.

Mecca · Post #66 » by **Mecca** » Mon Sep 6, 2010 5:18 pm

*I meant to say MLB. My mistake.*

BelieveTheDream · Post #67 » by **BelieveTheDream** » Mon Sep 6, 2010 5:30 pm

hobojoe2131 wrote:
xKLNx Phenom wrote:
hobojoe2131 wrote:Resigning MLBs >>>> WRs

Well, MLB isn't THAT important of a position. Not like a LT/QB/NG, but I'd agree just because Harris is probably the 2nd best LB in the NFL, and he's home grown.

He is not the 2nd best LB in the NFL. MLB? Maybe, but more like top 5. But LB? No freakin chance

And what is a NG?

Name me 4 better ILB's better then Harris??? Willis then....... so Like i said people dont know cause they donit watch and he doesn't get any recognition whatsoever, look at the numbers those back my statement

Post #68 » by **moocow007** » Mon Sep 6, 2010 5:33 pm

But the bottom line...after all this posturing...4 years and $46 million ($32 million guaranteed)? Great deal for the Jets.

Pharmcat · Post #69 » by **Pharmcat** » Mon Sep 6, 2010 5:36 pm

wait, so he was due guaranteed 21 mill for the next 3 yrs....held out and created a fuss, then settled for 4 yrs guaranteed for 32 mill....so he did all of this for just one more year at 11 mill???? sounds like he didnt really get a good deal afterall (didnt he want 160 mill?)

hobojoe2131 · Post #70 » by **hobojoe2131** » Mon Sep 6, 2010 5:40 pm

moocow007 wrote:Nose Guard.

That's what I thought, but normally it's NT for Nose Tackle. Either way, a big DT is only important for a 3-4 team.

knicks9784 · Post #71 » by **knicks9784** » Mon Sep 6, 2010 5:40 pm

moocow007 wrote:But the bottom line...after all this posturing...4 years and $46 million ($32 million guaranteed)? Great deal for the Jets.

yeah the jets really did win out with the contract. anyway huge relief as a jets fan to finally get this guy into camp

i cant wait to hear how fatcessa tries to spin it to say revis won the whole ordeal lol.

RutgersBJJ · Post #72 » by **RutgersBJJ** » Mon Sep 6, 2010 5:42 pm

Pharmcat wrote:wait, so he was due guaranteed 21 mill for the next 3 yrs....held out and created a fuss, then settled for 4 yrs guaranteed for 32 mill....so he did all of this for just one more year at 11 mill???? sounds like he didnt really get a good deal afterall (didnt he want 160 mill?)

he was only guaranteed 21 mil for the 2011-12 and 2012-13 seasons. He had no guaranteed money this season, and if he got hurt this year that 21 mil disappeared. So he basically went from no guaranteed money to 30 mil in guaranteed, and he can still score a ridiculous contract in 4 years when he will still be in his prime (since it seems like this "7 year deal" has early TO options for both the player and the team). It was the right move for Revis, especially after first-hand witnessing the Leon Washington situation last year.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #73 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Mon Sep 6, 2010 5:43 pm

Pharmcat wrote:wait, so he was due guaranteed 21 mill for the next 3 yrs....held out and created a fuss, then settled for 4 yrs guaranteed for 32 mill....so he did all of this for just one more year at 11 mill???? sounds like he didnt really get a good deal afterall (didnt he want 160 mill?)

32 million is just the guaranteed money. There's no doubt that he's going to make the full 46 million. The Jets got a really good deal.

hobojoe2131 · Post #74 » by **hobojoe2131** » Mon Sep 6, 2010 5:44 pm

BelieveTheDream wrote:
Name me 4 better ILB's better then Harris??? Willis then....... so Like i said people dont know cause they donit watch and he doesn't get any recognition whatsoever, look at the numbers those back my statement

Tatupu, Demeco Ryans, Jon Beason (although he plays outside a lot), Ray Lewis even in his old age, Barrett Ruud, Curtis Lofton....there are a few right there with Harris. He's top 5...that's not an insult to the man...calm down.

Mecca · Post #75 » by **Mecca** » Mon Sep 6, 2010 5:47 pm

hobojoe2131 wrote:
BelieveTheDream wrote:
Name me 4 better ILB's better then Harris??? Willis then....... so Like i said people dont know cause they donit watch and he doesn't get any recognition whatsoever, look at the numbers those back my statement

Tatupu, Demeco Ryans, Jon Beason (although he plays outside a lot), Ray Lewis even in his old age, Barrett Ruud, Curtis Lofton....there are a few right there with Harris. He's top 5...that's not an insult to the man...calm down.

No.......

Ray Lewis has started to decline a tad, and Demeco/Tatupu aren't touching Harris. Tatupu is a walking injury bug, and I think Demeco is a little too finesse for the 3-4.

ComboGuardCity · Post #76 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Mon Sep 6, 2010 6:10 pm

Patrick Willis is the best MLB in the league no question. He's on a tier of his own. I think Ray Lewis and Beason are great. Harris can be mentioned with them too as well. However, I think Beason has a disadvantage because he doesn't have Bart Scott playing with him. If I were building a team for the future ground up, I think Beason would get the slight edge over Harris.

MSGLegendNY · Post #77 » by **MSGLegendNY** » Mon Sep 6, 2010 6:13 pm

THANK YOU FOOTBALL GODS!

Mecca · Post #78 » by **Mecca** » Mon Sep 6, 2010 6:14 pm

ComboGuardCity wrote:Patrick Willis is the best MLB in the league no question. He's on a tier of his own. I think Ray Lewis and Beason are great. Harris can be mentioned with them too as well. However, I think Beason has a disadvantage because he doesn't have Bart Scott playing with him. If I were building a team for the future ground up, I think Beason would get the slight edge over Harris.

Beason plays outside most of the time.

ComboGuardCity · Post #79 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Mon Sep 6, 2010 6:19 pm

xKLNx Phenom wrote:
ComboGuardCity wrote:Patrick Willis is the best MLB in the league no question. He's on a tier of his own. I think Ray Lewis and Beason are great. Harris can be mentioned with them too as well. However, I think Beason has a disadvantage because he doesn't have Bart Scott playing with him. If I were building a team for the future ground up, I think Beason would get the slight edge over Harris.

Beason plays outside most of the time.

I saw 2 Panthers games last year and it looked like he was playing MLB? They also run a 4-3 so maybe it threw me off.

hobojoe2131 · Post #80 » by **hobojoe2131** » Mon Sep 6, 2010 6:39 pm

ComboGuardCity wrote:
xKLNx Phenom wrote:
ComboGuardCity wrote:Patrick Willis is the best MLB in the league no question. He's on a tier of his own. I think Ray Lewis and Beason are great. Harris can be mentioned with them too as well. However, I think Beason has a disadvantage because he doesn't have Bart Scott playing with him. If I were building a team for the future ground up, I think Beason would get the slight edge over Harris.

Beason plays outside most of the time.

I saw 2 Panthers games last year and it looked like he was playing MLB? They also run a 4-3 so maybe it threw me off.

He has moved to MLB. He was originally drafted as a OLB though.

Comparing a 4-3 MLB to a 3-4 MLB is like apples to oranges though.