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Iggy might want out of Philly 

Post#1 » by B Calrissian » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:13 pm

http://www.examiner.com/nba-in-national/andre-iguodala-wants-out-of-philly

Last night during ESPN’s pre-game show ESPN analyst Chris Broussard reported that Philadelphia 76ers wing player Andre Iguodala asked Sixers management to trade him. Broussard stated that the Sixers and Bulls were in preliminary talks to swap Iguodala for Luol Deng.


Andre Iguodala may want to leave the Sixers because of a diminished role on the team. Evan Turner is 2010’s number 2 overall pick and sooner rather than later the keys are going to be turned over to college basketball’s Player of the Year. Iguodala may see the writing on the wall.


I feel like there must be a thread about this already and I'm just not seeing it (looked multiple times).

What would you guys trade for him? Brewer+picks+cap space?

* Now I saw this on the general board. Maybe it's just damage control. How many times did we hear Melo and Paul have not requested a trade over the summer?

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http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/deep ... trade.html

On Wednesday, ESPN mentioned on a pre-show broadcast that 76ers swingman Andre Iguodala has asked Sixers' management to trade him. That statement, along with some circulating second and third-hand rumors, created a small amount of buzz that Iguodala wants out of Philly.

That is untrue. Iguodala has not requested a trade, nor has he told management he'd like to be traded if the Sixers aren't winning by midseason. Iguodala has not approached management with any trade request. According to a source, the "news" came from a statement Iguodala made -- saying he'd like to play for a winning team -- that was then taken out of context and morphed into the logical next step: well, if Philly isn't winning, then Iguodala wants out.

Again, Iguodala has not made any request of Sixers' management and has not requested a trade.
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Re: Iggy might want out of Philly 

Post#2 » by Worm Guts » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:24 pm

Personally, I'd like to see what we have before we start adding salary. Adding Iguodala doesn't do much for a 20 win team, and if we're better than that maybe it's because Johnson, Beasley, Webster are doing well and we don't need Iggy at all.
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Post#3 » by Stephen S » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:25 pm

I think we should play with the idea of moving Love for him...moving Beasley to PF and starting Wes at SF.

I think Love, Telfair, and Brewer for Iggy would be good for both teams. We pick Jason Hart back up and allow Ellington to run the point in back up minutes until Flynn returns.
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Post#4 » by B Calrissian » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:27 pm

I do like the idea of a Flynn/Wes/Iggy/Beasley/Darko line up but Love is too much to give up for Iggy.
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Post#5 » by C.lupus » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:32 pm

We can't give up the only rebounder the team has.
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Post#6 » by Stephen S » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:34 pm

B Calrissian wrote:I do like the idea of a Flynn/Wes/Iggy/Beasley/Darko line up but Love is too much to give up for Iggy.


We could always try and finagle a first out of them
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Re: Iggy might want out of Philly 

Post#7 » by Esohny » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:43 pm

C.lupus wrote:We can't give up the only rebounder the team has.


I agree with this. I'd love an Iggy/Wes tandem on the wing, but I wouldn't trade Love for him.
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Post#8 » by Krapinsky » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:47 pm

Love for Iggy? Get out of town Mister.

Beasley + Brewer + Memphis or Utah 2011 1st for Iggy -- Okay, now we're getting somewhere.

Rubio/Flynn/Luke
Iggy/Ellington
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Post#9 » by Worm Guts » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:53 pm

There's also the issue that if Iguodala is going to try to dictate where he plays, he's not going to want to play in Minnesota.
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Post#10 » by Esohny » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:55 pm

Worm Guts wrote:There's also the issue that if Iguodala is going to try to dictate where he plays, he's not going to want to play in Minnesota.


This is a good point.

If one looked at it from a REALLY optimistic point of view, I suppose that Iggy might want out of Philly because he feels like he's being replaced by Turner, while he would be a sure-fire starter here on an up-and-comer.
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Post#11 » by Krapinsky » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:57 pm

Worm Guts wrote:There's also the issue that if Iguodala is going to try to dictate where he plays, he's not going to want to play in Minnesota.


He's got a few years left on his contract so I don't see how he has any leverage to do that.
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Post#12 » by Worm Guts » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:59 pm

But isn't that what the premise is? He's getting traded because he wants out?
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Post#13 » by Krapinsky » Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:18 pm

Worm Guts wrote:But isn't that what the premise is? He's getting traded because he wants out?


Two different things in my opinion. A player can always ask for a trade and here iggy migth get his wish if he's unhappy and probably not in the team's long term plans. Whether he has the leverage to choose is destination depends on the length of his deal or a no tade clause.

Why would Philly turn down the best offer to trade Iggy to a team he'd rather play for? It's different with Melo because of his contract situation. The best deals are going to come from teams that can extend him.
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Post#14 » by revprodeji » Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:33 pm

I think Iggy would be phenomenal in this system.

My understanding is that Iggy is not happy with his role, not the team itself. My concerns would be that Iggy is a #2 at best, not the #1 we would desire. Could Rubio be his number 1? Perhaps. What would Iggy cost us? and is his age a concern?

I know we have a man-crush on Beasley's potential, but if we are adding a scorer in Iggy to play alongside a scorer in Wes, then we would probably want to keep Love as the role player he is. His rebounding and spacing become even more important if he has quality scorers. Iggy would need to have spacers to improve his driving.

Beasley right now should be looked at as someone we are trying to pigeon into the Iggy role. If he can do it then we are set. If not, then he should be moved not love. Although, looking at Philly's team I cannot help but think they would highly value Pekovic.
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Post#15 » by Krapinsky » Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:44 pm

revprodeji wrote:I think Iggy would be phenomenal in this system.

My understanding is that Iggy is not happy with his role, not the team itself. My concerns would be that Iggy is a #2 at best, not the #1 we would desire. Could Rubio be his number 1? Perhaps. What would Iggy cost us? and is his age a concern?

I know we have a man-crush on Beasley's potential, but if we are adding a scorer in Iggy to play alongside a scorer in Wes, then we would probably want to keep Love as the role player he is. His rebounding and spacing become even more important if he has quality scorers. Iggy would need to have spacers to improve his driving.

Beasley right now should be looked at as someone we are trying to pigeon into the Iggy role. If he can do it then we are set. If not, then he should be moved not love. Although, looking at Philly's team I cannot help but think they would highly value Pekovic.


How old do you think he is?

Main concern is his contract kills all of our flexibility for a roster that may be far from unfinished. We may be better off waiting until the new CBA and not blowing our load so fast on the first available player that comes along.
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Post#16 » by Klomp » Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:48 pm

Krapinsky wrote:
revprodeji wrote: is his age a concern?


How old do you think he is?


Wow, only 26. Would still be the third oldest on this team. Just 12 days younger than Mo Ager.
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Post#17 » by Klomp » Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:50 pm

revprodeji wrote:Beasley right now should be looked at as someone we are trying to pigeon into the Iggy role. If he can do it then we are set. If not, then he should be moved not love.


I'd say this is one of the main keys of the first half of the season
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Re: Iggy might want out of Philly 

Post#18 » by SHGNWGN671 » Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:22 am

Iggy will be a great addition to the team but at what cost?

Personally I would prefer not to ship out Love to gain Iggy based on the following:
1 - Love is the unofficial face of the team and has a huge following among the Timberwolf fans
2 - Iggy, although a talented player, does not currently hold the same respect as Love does among this fan base. Now if Iggy was from Minny and has some sort of basketball history here (i.e. highschool or college) than that might be another story, especially if Love soured his welcome here.
3 - You don't trade big for small. Although we do have a glut at the front court I will definitely not gamble what talent we already have for something that has the potential to be better. Minny fans have been through enough and this season is slowly bringing back their pride as a Wolf fan.

Now our biggest trading chip is that we are able to absorb salary. I am not too familiar with the Sixers plans but I would assume they would like some cap relief and some sort of talent or pick compensation for giving up their formerly recognized franchise savior. Personally I wouldn't mind giving up:
- Beasley or Johnson (to be honest I would prefer to have Beasley as he can come and play PF as a secondary position so that he can run with Love [situationally speaking of course]) (Johnson I would prefer to have if shows to have better chemistry among the team assuming he can mirror the talent shown by Beasley)
- Brewer: Although I would like for him to remain on the team, he will once again be buried on the bench if he doesn't show production at his position. Great player and great heart, especially considering the strides he took last year.
- Picks: Not too familiar with what he have but we don't need a glut of picks to use in the upcoming draft to continually rebuild this team. Currently this team has a great foundation and an actual plan.

....to tired to finish out the rest but this is the jist of it.
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Post#19 » by Dewey » Sat Oct 30, 2010 12:24 pm

I like Iggy, but the timing of this situation is not good nor is his contract.
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Post#20 » by mandurugo » Sat Oct 30, 2010 3:31 pm

SHGNWGN671 wrote:Iggy will be a great addition to the team but at what cost?

Personally I would prefer not to ship out Love to gain Iggy based on the following:
1 - Love is the unofficial face of the team and has a huge following among the Timberwolf fans
2 - Iggy, although a talented player, does not currently hold the same respect as Love does among this fan base. Now if Iggy was from Minny and has some sort of basketball history here (i.e. highschool or college) than that might be another story, especially if Love soured his welcome here.
3 - You don't trade big for small. Although we do have a glut at the front court I will definitely not gamble what talent we already have for something that has the potential to be better. Minny fans have been through enough and this season is slowly bringing back their pride as a Wolf fan.


1. err, what fans? Trading Love won't have any effect on the fan base compared to winning games.
2. ditto.
3. Love is a small big, Iggy is the better player of the two.

I'd do a trade based on this, but than I'm not a Love fan.

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