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Re: 2011 Draft watch 

Post#21 » by AQuintus » Thu Nov 4, 2010 10:41 pm

princeofpalace wrote:Do you really see guy sitting out the 2011 draft?


From what I understand, it really depends on where they get drafted, because regardless of draft position, the players don't get paid until they're officially signed.

From what I've read, the agents pay for all of the players' expenses until their first NBA paycheck comes in. In a case of a lockout, they won't get signed until the lockout is over.

So, for top 3 or top 5 picks, the agents will agree to pay for their expenses for the entire duration of the lockout because they know they'll make that money (and then some) back. For players later in the draft, that guarantee isn't there, so they won't. This means that for non- top picks, it just isn't financially viable to come out.

Also, do to their personalities and past statements, there's a better than average chance that top prospects Harrison Barnes and Kyrie Irving decide to stay an extra year or two regardless of the CBA situation, and there's definitely a good chance that the top international prospects decide to stay out and get paid elsewhere until the CBA is resolved.

Isn't it better to get drafted even w/a possible lockout then go back to school? What if you get injured? What if your stock drops etc..


I'm not positive, but I don't think this is allowed. I'm pretty sure that if a college player remains draft eligible after a certain date (before the draft), they lose their amateur status and are no longer eligible to play college ball.
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Re: 2011 Draft watch 

Post#22 » by Krapinsky » Fri Nov 5, 2010 12:13 am

The risk of entering the draft and there be a lockout is that the NBA season could be delayed, limited, or lost, in which case the players would have left school and have no income. Essentially, they run the risk of leaving the fun times of college and not being able to play organized ball or get paid.
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Re: 2011 Draft watch 

Post#23 » by Twolves98 » Fri Nov 5, 2010 12:17 am

I'm sure if your a player like Barnes you don't care if you have to stay in school because you already know your going to the NBA so you could study being a gym teacher or something easy...

And don't say what if he get injured
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Re: 2011 Draft watch 

Post#24 » by Klomp » Fri Nov 5, 2010 2:24 am

Krapinsky wrote:The risk of entering the draft and there be a lockout is that the NBA season could be delayed, limited, or lost, in which case the players would have left school and have no income. Essentially, they run the risk of leaving the fun times of college and not being able to play organized ball or get paid.

Can't you play overseas (a la Rubio) or in the minor leagues?
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Re: 2011 Draft watch 

Post#25 » by C.lupus » Fri Nov 5, 2010 3:22 am

Krapinsky wrote:The risk of entering the draft and there be a lockout is that the NBA season could be delayed, limited, or lost, in which case the players would have left school and have no income. Essentially, they run the risk of leaving the fun times of college and not being able to play organized ball or get paid.

So if they can't play organized ball for a year because of a lockout are they free agents?
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Re: 2011 Draft watch 

Post#26 » by AQuintus » Fri Nov 5, 2010 3:37 am

C.lupus wrote:So if they can't play organized ball for a year because of a lockout are they free agents?


I'm guessing no. The CBA provision that makes the 1 year rule possible won't exist once the CBA expires.
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Re: 2011 Draft watch 

Post#27 » by younggunsmn » Fri Nov 5, 2010 10:47 am

Big downside for non-blue chip college players. Not a downside for international players because they will be getting a paycheck regardless if it comes from europe or NBA. Weak college talent could actually entice more euros to declare.

I can't see the rookie scale getting any better in a new CBA.

potentially a nice international big man draft led by valanciunas and motiejunas.

I vote Barnes or Perry Jones for the Wolves.

If there is a lockout there will be no contract for the rookies to sign and they will be free to go to europe or go back to school without playing basketball, but their draft rights will be retained regardless.
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Re: 2011 Draft watch 

Post#28 » by Klomp » Fri Nov 5, 2010 10:55 am

The last lockout shortened season was 1998. Take a look at the draft: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_NBA_Draft
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Re: 2011 Draft watch 

Post#29 » by shangrila » Fri Nov 5, 2010 11:09 am

That makes me feel a little better
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Re: 2011 Draft watch 

Post#30 » by Worm Guts » Fri Nov 5, 2010 12:29 pm

Klomp wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:The risk of entering the draft and there be a lockout is that the NBA season could be delayed, limited, or lost, in which case the players would have left school and have no income. Essentially, they run the risk of leaving the fun times of college and not being able to play organized ball or get paid.

Can't you play overseas (a la Rubio) or in the minor leagues?


They could, but they could skip college all together if that's what they wanted to do. For most, college is a clear second preference to the NBA.
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Re: 2011 Draft watch 

Post#31 » by Blue Wolf » Fri Nov 5, 2010 1:07 pm

Klomp wrote:The last lockout shortened season was 1998. Take a look at the draft: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_NBA_Draft


Decent draft but notice that seven of the top ten picks played college ball for at least three years, and that Bibby, the lone sophmore, had already won a national championship ... I'm just thinking that it might be a little easier for freshmen like Barnes and Perry to opt for another season of college ball. And as a Wolves fan, I'm certain both players: (a) will not declare (in which case the Wolves are certain to land the #1 pick) or (b) will declare (in which case the Wolves will pick #3).

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Re: 2011 Draft watch 

Post#32 » by Krapinsky » Fri Nov 5, 2010 3:09 pm

Klomp wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:The risk of entering the draft and there be a lockout is that the NBA season could be delayed, limited, or lost, in which case the players would have left school and have no income. Essentially, they run the risk of leaving the fun times of college and not being able to play organized ball or get paid.

Can't you play overseas (a la Rubio) or in the minor leagues?


Finding a one year deal in europe would not be easy for a lot of draft prospects. And even then do they commit and risk missing an entire strike shortened season? I'm not sure what would go on with the D-League -- a lot of those guys are members of the players union too, aren't they? I'm guessing there would be no D-league games either, but I would need mnWI to confirm that.
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