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Re: LA Lakers (4-0) @ Sacramento (3-1) 

Post#141 » by SacKingZZZ » Fri Nov 5, 2010 5:57 am

Lightning Strike wrote:I don't think putting one of your best defenders on their best scorer is silly (and Tyreke is probably besides Dante our best chance at containing Kobe), and of Tyrekes fouls only two of them really were FOULS. One of them was for holding his hand in front of Kobe's face when he shot hat three. Another was when get got tangled up along the baseline with one of the Lakers guards (forget who). Two of them were silly, but I blame the refs for not kissing Kobe right on court as much as I blame Tyreke.



Makes the game twice as hard though. Notice Kobe doesn't defend Tyreke. Reke's already expected to anchor the offense and it might be too much to ask him to shut down the opposing teams next player as well. One of the reasons I really like the idea of Cisco starting next to Reke.
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Re: LA Lakers (4-0) @ Sacramento (3-1) 

Post#142 » by SacKingZZZ » Fri Nov 5, 2010 5:59 am

KiNgSbOi wrote:First off, who's genius idea was it to put Tyreke on Kobe? What a awful decision, we need him in the game and he just picks up silly reach in fouls over and over again. He goes to the bench and we can't score anymore. Cousins was playing good at first, but I don't like him taking 4 three pointers! That's not what I want to see from him, he made one and that should of been all he shot.

This game wasn't all that close after the half. The Lakers took care of us fairly easily and they just let us hang around until they decided to step on our necks. A little discouraging to say the least, we usually play them much better than we did last night, but hey...ish happens.

PS: Dalembert starting for the next game, great move. Cousins will come off the bench and contribute offensively against the second unit. We need a defensive mind set right from the get go to stay in games and that's what Dalembert will provide, barring early foul trouble.


We'll see. If the team decides to open the game up like they have in just about every other one besides the Lakers game it's going to be a problem. Daly needs some help from his perimeter guys or we're getting blown out early.

What's it going to take to see Cousins and Daly in there at the same time!?
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Re: LA Lakers (4-0) @ Sacramento (3-1) 

Post#143 » by KF10 » Fri Nov 5, 2010 8:20 pm

SacKingZZZ wrote:What's it going to take to see Cousins and Daly in there at the same time!?


Until Westphal realizes that Landry as a reserve>>Landry as a starter.

He is not utilizing Landry at his fullest when he keeps starting him at PF. Landry in Houston is a much dynamic, effective player than now.

I think most of us would agree to this.
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Re: LA Lakers (4-0) @ Sacramento (3-1) 

Post#144 » by pillwenney » Fri Nov 5, 2010 8:43 pm

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mitchweber wrote:In the grand scheme of things, we would have been fine starting JT. All the things you want Landry to do are all things Jason is more than capable of doing. If you're using Landry primarily as an off-the-ball player, you're wasting his talents. The same can't really be said for JT.

Head's D on Kobe was good on a few possessions. It was far from "incredible" and it wasn't good enough to make up for his over all sucktitude. Donte or Cisco could have done just as well if not better and not killed our offense.



Not true, and more than that Landry has looked very comfortable as a spot up shooter this season either in isolation play or off the drive and dish from Tyreke. Didn't say "primarily" an off the ball player. I think they could mix up his game and moreso make it a little easier for him while simultaneously making the team more dangerous as a whole.


It's completely true. Jason is perfectly capable of playing off the ball, spotting up from midrange and cutting to the basket. That's how he should really be used offensively.

And I didn't say Landry isn't fine spotting up. He is. That's just not using his full talents. And whether you like it or not, playing Landry with Tyreke and Cousins means, but its very function, that Landry will be playing off the ball more than on it.

Of course, this is a little moot now with Cousins coming off the bench, but only kind of. Landry is still better served coming off the bench, being at the center of everything. He has proven this before. Consider how annoyed a lot of us are with Landry right now and how much every Houston fan loved the hell out of that guy. There's a reason for that. It's because he was used properly in Houston and he was helping his team more.
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Post#145 » by SacKingZZZ » Fri Nov 5, 2010 9:36 pm

The only downside to playing Landry is that he doesn't rebound well per minute, but we're not necessarily getting killed on the boards. Talent for talent Landry is clearly above anyone on this roster besides Cousins. We'll see what Landry and Daly can do, on paper it looks decent but this teams future hinges on Cousins and Tyreke no ifs, ands, or buts. I don't think JT's intangibles outweigh the stability and talent Landry brings. On court results, and style of play will obviously determine what direction Westphal goes but any short term logic once again might be a hindrance to the individual growth pattern this team can achieve. I will say if Westphal wants to run, JT and Daly are the way to go. See you in the lottery and 5 months behind developmentally.
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Re: LA Lakers (4-0) @ Sacramento (3-1) 

Post#146 » by SadKingsFan » Sat Nov 6, 2010 6:54 am

SacKingZZZ wrote:The only downside to playing Landry is that he doesn't rebound well per minute, but we're not necessarily getting killed on the boards. Talent for talent Landry is clearly above anyone on this roster besides Cousins. We'll see what Landry and Daly can do, on paper it looks decent but this teams future hinges on Cousins and Tyreke no ifs, ands, or buts. I don't think JT's intangibles outweigh the stability and talent Landry brings. On court results, and style of play will obviously determine what direction Westphal goes but any short term logic once again might be a hindrance to the individual growth pattern this team can achieve. I will say if Westphal wants to run, JT and Daly are the way to go. See you in the lottery and 5 months behind developmentally.

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Re: LA Lakers (4-0) @ Sacramento (3-1) 

Post#147 » by SacKingZZZ » Sat Nov 6, 2010 10:19 pm

I'm saying that we might win more games with JT and Landry up front with the way Westphal likes to play however we will still be in the lotto and have had less real developmental time for the players we're relying on for our future success. We had the same argument about Artest a few years back with people swearing up and down how we should be playing Artest and Salmons, while I was saying it was a waste since both would be gone shortly anyway. Both were shortly gone and once again, we did nothing but waste time.

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