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[Camelo Thread]**UPDATE MELO PUSHING FOR KNICKS**- Part 4

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Re: [Camelo Thread]**UPDATE MELO PUSHING FOR KNICKS**- Part 4 

Post#1601 » by seren » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:22 pm

KnicksGod wrote:I find it hard to believe the Nets had a chance even before this story. Besides NJ, they are an awful team.

We'll see what happens. I still think Bulls have a shot but NYK seems a very clear preference for Melo.


There really is no speculation needed here. I know your jinx thing, but Melo said what he said. If it is not clear for anyone involved, I guess it will never be clearer.

It comes down to whether there will be some teams who would accept Melo without an extension. I am sure there are. Bobcats' name is out there. I am sure 29 other teams would be also interested as long as it does not cost them much.

The question becomes whether Denver would rather keep him till the summer, which I think is a strong possibility, send him out for another team for a bad offer, which I don't think will happen, or accept a reasonable offer from the Knicks.
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Re: Who would you rather lose in a trade for Carmelo 

Post#1602 » by TheBluest » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:23 pm

For all of you who bag on posters..... about what kind of fans they are and how long they have been fans just know this...

I DID NOT VOTE ON THIS THREAD

but I find it very ironic those of you who are the so-called better fans die hards bleed blue and orange managed to.... some possibly more than once to cast a vote to a tally of 100+

As if preferences haven't been discussed ad nauseam. Why would it be exclusive to these 2 players anyway as we have no idea what it will take to get Melo?
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Re: Forget Melo. What every Knick fan should be EXCITED about. 

Post#1603 » by richardhutnik » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:25 pm

Of course, there is a right to be concerned here. Not sure excited is the word. The idea is to win, but change the hearts and minds of those who don't follow the mix. So, sometimes you just say this and then do it...

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Re: [Camelo Thread]**UPDATE MELO PUSHING FOR KNICKS**- Part 4 

Post#1604 » by god shammgod » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:27 pm

Futureisnow wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:I find it hard to believe the Nets had a chance even before this story. Besides NJ, they are an awful team.


Wait a minute, KG. Weren't you the guy that kept saying that you had a gut feeling that the Nets would wind up with Melo? Now you're saying you never believed they had a shot?


yeah. he finally came around.
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Re: [Camelo Thread]**UPDATE MELO PUSHING FOR KNICKS**- Part 4 

Post#1605 » by aggo » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:27 pm

I dont understand why people would choose Chandler over Gallo if it came down to it.

Chandler and Melo's skillsets overlap. Gallo's doesnt.
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Re: [Camelo Thread]**UPDATE MELO PUSHING FOR KNICKS**- Part 4 

Post#1606 » by god shammgod » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:30 pm

AggO wrote:I dont understand why people would choose Chandler over Gallo if it came down to it.

Chandler and Melo's skillsets overlap. Gallo's doesnt.


cause mike likes to go small and neither gallo or melo can defend the 4.
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Re: [Camelo Thread]**UPDATE MELO PUSHING FOR KNICKS**- Part 4 

Post#1607 » by aggo » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:31 pm

god shammgod wrote:
AggO wrote:I dont understand why people would choose Chandler over Gallo if it came down to it.

Chandler and Melo's skillsets overlap. Gallo's doesnt.


cause mike likes to go small and neither gallo or melo can defend the 4.


neither can chandler...
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Re: Forget Melo. What every Knick fan should be EXCITED about. 

Post#1608 » by moocow007 » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:31 pm

The Knicks keep playing like they have and they can beat anyone. What they've done better but still really need to get under control is that errant quarter where they flub. Against the bad teams it's fine. Against the good teams, not so.
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Re: [Camelo Thread]**UPDATE MELO PUSHING FOR KNICKS**- Part 4 

Post#1609 » by god shammgod » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:34 pm

AggO wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
AggO wrote:I dont understand why people would choose Chandler over Gallo if it came down to it.

Chandler and Melo's skillsets overlap. Gallo's doesnt.


cause mike likes to go small and neither gallo or melo can defend the 4.


neither can chandler...


yes he can. he's not great but you can play him there. those other 2 you simply can't. as well chandler is simply the better player to me. you may think differently.
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Re: Forget Melo. What every Knick fan should be EXCITED about. 

Post#1610 » by Awoooga » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:34 pm

Amare destroyed Duncan in the playoffs (04?) before he got hurt initially. Put up something like 38 points per game on him.
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Re: [Camelo Thread]**UPDATE MELO PUSHING FOR KNICKS**- Part 4 

Post#1611 » by aggo » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:36 pm

god shammgod wrote:
AggO wrote:
god shammgod wrote:cause mike likes to go small and neither gallo or melo can defend the 4.


neither can chandler...


yes he can. he's not great but you can play him there. those other 2 you simply can't. as well chandler is simply the better player to me. you may think differently.


I get what you're saying,

but personally, mike's system is all about spacing.

Having Gallo out there and allowing Melo and Amare to go 1 on 1 is huge.. teams will double more if we keep Chandler on teh floor next to Amare/Melo imo.
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Re: [Camelo Thread]**UPDATE MELO PUSHING FOR KNICKS**- Part 4 

Post#1612 » by seren » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:36 pm

god shammgod wrote:
AggO wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
cause mike likes to go small and neither gallo or melo can defend the 4.


neither can chandler...


yes he can. he's not great but you can play him there. those other 2 you simply can't. as well chandler is simply the better player to me. you may think differently.


I don't see how Melo can't play the four in this system. He is as big as Chandler, maybe bigger. He lacks shot blocking, but he is a better rebounder. In fact, I can see MD use Melo only at four in this system.
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Re: IT'S SIMPLE. MELO IS NOT THE ANSWER. HERE'S WHY 

Post#1613 » by ilovenewyork » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:38 pm

With melo i think you have to do it, call denver offer AR and Chandler and leave it on the table, I love this team right now and i want to believe they can contend, but melo is a winner...remember this guy was a freshman that lead his team to the ncaa title....he wins..just like ray does..he hasn't missed the playoffs yet including his rookie year as a #3 and has matured a lot since the infamous brawl a few years back...there was a espn article talking about his maturity and the influence billups had on him...im not one to go off these fluff articles but melo is an option we'd be foolish to pass up...chandler i love but he won't come cheap next year and we're winning without AR now...I see it as a wash, long-term i see it as a beginning of a dynasty...its been the perfect storm and i hate to say it but amare's not getting younger we need guys in their prime ready to go...remember the lockout 99 team, who's to know what would've happened if we had a healthy ewing against san antonio...or even 94, if ewing had that second star to fend off the double team...all these what if's, we solve today with melo....melo is not a selfish player, just because his team depends on him now and we saw him take some bad shots yesterday it doesn't say anything...melo knows this is amare's team i think we proved that today...he knows what he's getting himself into.
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Re: [Camelo Thread]**UPDATE MELO PUSHING FOR KNICKS**- Part 4 

Post#1614 » by god shammgod » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:46 pm

seren wrote:I don't see how Melo can't play the four in this system. He is as big as Chandler, maybe bigger. He lacks shot blocking, but he is a better rebounder. In fact, I can see MD use Melo only at four in this system.


chandler is much stronger the melo. look at their body types. melo will get pushed around by physical 4s and is not as good a defender even without the shot blocking. he is a very good rebounder. to me if you trade chandler you need to start amare at the 4 and put a center in the starting lineup. now i'm no fan of small ball but it's hard to argue when you're winning with it. i'm not sure we want to disrupt this lineup more then simply exchanging one player for another.
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Re: [Camelo Thread]**UPDATE MELO PUSHING FOR KNICKS**- Part 4 

Post#1615 » by K_ick_God » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:47 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Futureisnow wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:I find it hard to believe the Nets had a chance even before this story. Besides NJ, they are an awful team.


Wait a minute, KG. Weren't you the guy that kept saying that you had a gut feeling that the Nets would wind up with Melo? Now you're saying you never believed they had a shot?


yeah. he finally came around.



I said that at the beginning of the season. As 2-0 become 4-7 and then 6-15 or whatever it is, I think they are out of the running. Plus Melo's comments seemed like they were designed to show them respect, but not interest.
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Re: [Camelo Thread]**UPDATE MELO PUSHING FOR KNICKS**- Part 4 

Post#1616 » by klemen4 » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:47 pm

Still there is a way NY can keep both Chandler and Galinari and sign Melo as FA, but I think the only way it to package Randolph+Turiaf 2011 contracts 7.27 mil to a team like CLE who could take Turiaf being 5,5 mil under the cap and lets say give TPE for AR...That is the only way.

Find someone to take Turiaf and give them AR for making a favor. Maybe add 3 mio.

Than you could go like this

felton/douglas
fields/douglas
melo/chandler
galinari/chandler
amare/mozgov

This is the best posible team imo
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Re: [Camelo Thread]**UPDATE MELO PUSHING FOR KNICKS**- Part 4 

Post#1617 » by K_ick_God » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:48 pm

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seren wrote:I don't see how Melo can't play the four in this system. He is as big as Chandler, maybe bigger. He lacks shot blocking, but he is a better rebounder. In fact, I can see MD use Melo only at four in this system.


chandler is much stronger the melo. look at their body types. melo will get pushed around by physical 4s and is not as good a defender even without the shot blocking. he is a very good rebounder. to me if you trade chandler you need to start amare at the 4 and put a center in the starting lineup. now i'm no fan of small ball but it's hard to argue when you're winning with it. i'm not sure we want to disrupt this lineup more then simply exchanging one player for another.




Hmmm interesting. I think Chandler is more athletic and lower body fat but I think Melo is considerably stronger.
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Re: [Camelo Thread]**UPDATE MELO PUSHING FOR KNICKS**- Part 4 

Post#1618 » by ophdog » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:52 pm

KnicksGod wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
seren wrote:I don't see how Melo can't play the four in this system. He is as big as Chandler, maybe bigger. He lacks shot blocking, but he is a better rebounder. In fact, I can see MD use Melo only at four in this system.


chandler is much stronger the melo. look at their body types. melo will get pushed around by physical 4s and is not as good a defender even without the shot blocking. he is a very good rebounder. to me if you trade chandler you need to start amare at the 4 and put a center in the starting lineup. now i'm no fan of small ball but it's hard to argue when you're winning with it. i'm not sure we want to disrupt this lineup more then simply exchanging one player for another.




Hmmm interesting. I think Chandler is more athletic and lower body fat but I think Melo is considerably stronger.


yeah i look at melo as a bully type player
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Re: [Camelo Thread]**UPDATE MELO PUSHING FOR KNICKS**- Part 4 

Post#1619 » by ophdog » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:56 pm

Sometimes going to a new team rejuvinates a player. Melo might go on a mission playing for the knicks. Amare has to be telling him how amazing this ride has been. Amare is sngle right? can you even imagine the tail hes getting in ny right now. With each win his level of model is prob going up
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Can the Knicks keep Fields from a Melo trade? 

Post#1620 » by swb » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:58 pm

Francesa said Fields would need to involved in any Melo trade. Anyway we can avoid trading him?

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