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Re: Wolves @ Boston, 1/3/11, 6:30, FSN 

Post#641 » by Greco21 » Wed Jan 5, 2011 12:00 pm

shangrila wrote:
But Greco is right, it was actually a solid play. They exploited a match up and got someone a wide open lane. If anyone but Ridnour had that shot it would probably have been made.


IMO he should try and hit the glass. He would secure the ball better or go to the line. Agree?
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Post#642 » by Vindicater » Wed Jan 5, 2011 2:10 pm

Rambis is an idiot...

I have been saying that for 1 and 1/2 years now and I will continue to say it as long as he is the head coach.

He has one strength (Player development). In all other aspects of coaching he is sub-par.

Add to that the fact that his strength (player development) is actually what you want out of your development coach and you realise why he should be fired and someone with an ounce of in match strategy should be hired.

I pointed it out in another thread but I am hoping to god that the Rambis hire is some part of Khan's master plan.

1.) Khan hires Rambis
2.) Rambis spends two years developing youth.
3.) Khan fires Rambis
4.) Khan hires good coach to take developed youth into playoffs.

BAM... just like in 1989 when Collins was fired andf Jackson hired!
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Re: Wolves @ Boston, 1/3/11, 6:30, FSN 

Post#643 » by Krapinsky » Wed Jan 5, 2011 3:25 pm

Kobe Bryant has difficulty scoring on an ISO against Boston. Rambis designed a great play. Ridnour should have made the extra pass to Johnson, but didn't. Allen made a play that only a hall of famer could make.

So Blame Rambis? Really dumb. If any of our last three coaches were here we'd probably still be getting blown out by 20-30 every night.
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Re: Wolves @ Boston, 1/3/11, 6:30, FSN 

Post#644 » by re49gb_2gho32fp » Wed Jan 5, 2011 6:07 pm

Vindicater wrote:Rambis is an idiot...



Doubt it highly.
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Re: Wolves @ Boston, 1/3/11, 6:30, FSN 

Post#645 » by LOBO 7 » Wed Jan 5, 2011 8:19 pm

Krapinsky wrote:Kobe Bryant has difficulty scoring on an ISO against Boston. Rambis designed a great play. Ridnour should have made the extra pass to Johnson, but didn't. Allen made a play that only a hall of famer could make.

So Blame Rambis? Really dumb. If any of our last three coaches were here we'd probably still be getting blown out by 20-30 every night.


Exactly. Rambis may not be the best Xs and Os coach on the planet, but rather than give him credit for improving that facet of his coaching (he actually drew up a successful inbounds play) to blame him again for this loss is just silly. Yes, it's too bad he called a TO when Johnson was open for an outlet, but it is the right call 98% of the time in that situation. He is learning as he goes as well. He is developing as a coach just like our players are developing as players. He has this team believing in themselves and coming out with energy every single night, despite the seemingly endless string of heartbreaking defeats. We are all frustrated and we all need to blame someone or something for these losses, but the fact of the matter is that this team is overachieving. Ignoring the W-L record, which is basically a non-issue this season, this team has shown that they can compete with anyone. They ARE showing a lot of improvement, and the victories WILL come. Patience...
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Re: Wolves @ Boston, 1/3/11, 6:30, FSN 

Post#646 » by Greco21 » Wed Jan 5, 2011 8:24 pm

Krapinsky wrote:Kobe Bryant has difficulty scoring on an ISO against Boston. Rambis designed a great play. Ridnour should have made the extra pass to Johnson, but didn't. Allen made a play that only a hall of famer could make.

So Blame Rambis? Really dumb. If any of our last three coaches were here we'd probably still be getting blown out by 20-30 every night.


Do you believe that Wes Johnson made a good cut? IMO he should try to get the attention of Ray Allen somehow. Throw a body, start to run a little earlier, pick a spot... I feel he did not react on time. He was passive.

Anyway i am not saying that it his fault... its Luke to the end.
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Re: Wolves @ Boston, 1/3/11, 6:30, FSN 

Post#647 » by Krapinsky » Wed Jan 5, 2011 8:34 pm

Greco21 wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:Kobe Bryant has difficulty scoring on an ISO against Boston. Rambis designed a great play. Ridnour should have made the extra pass to Johnson, but didn't. Allen made a play that only a hall of famer could make.

So Blame Rambis? Really dumb. If any of our last three coaches were here we'd probably still be getting blown out by 20-30 every night.


Do you believe that Wes Johnson made a good cut? IMO he should try to get the attention of Ray Allen somehow. Throw a body, start to run a little earlier, pick a spot... I feel he did not react on time. He was passive.

Anyway i am not saying that it his fault... its Luke to the end.


Well he had to wait for Allen to leave, then follow Allen to the basket. That's pretty much what he did. I'm not sure he could have done anything else to have improved the situation. Ridnour's tunnel vision just didn't see Allen coming. If Ridnour takes a dribble not only does he not get called for traveling, but he gives himself more room to make an under control play there and either finish with the foul or dish to Johnson.
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Post#648 » by Greco21 » Wed Jan 5, 2011 8:53 pm

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Well he had to wait for Allen to leave, then follow Allen to the basket. That's pretty much what he did. I'm not sure he could have done anything else to have improved the situation. Ridnour's tunnel vision just didn't see Allen coming. If Ridnour takes a dribble not only does he not get called for traveling, but he gives himself more room to make an under control play there and either finish with the foul or dish to Johnson.


Over analyzing right now, but a veteran could hold just a little bit Allen. A fraction of a second. Pull him. The referees attention on such plays are always on the ball.

Anyway. I would jump stop, fake and take a foul or dribble to the glass
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Re: Wolves @ Boston, 1/3/11, 6:30, FSN 

Post#649 » by CoffeeJanitor » Wed Jan 5, 2011 8:56 pm

Greco21 wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:
Well he had to wait for Allen to leave, then follow Allen to the basket. That's pretty much what he did. I'm not sure he could have done anything else to have improved the situation. Ridnour's tunnel vision just didn't see Allen coming. If Ridnour takes a dribble not only does he not get called for traveling, but he gives himself more room to make an under control play there and either finish with the foul or dish to Johnson.


Over analyzing right now, but a veteran could hold just a little bit Allen. A fraction of a second. Pull him. The referees attention on such plays are always on the ball.

Anyway. I would jump stop, fake and take a foul or dribble to the glass
The fact that I could never imagine Luke doing this in a late game situation shows why he shouldn't have had the ball in that situation, good play or not.
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Post#650 » by Krapinsky » Wed Jan 5, 2011 8:58 pm

Ya, sort of agree. Another way to do it would have been to have Johnson move along the permieter as Ridnour was making his turn. That would have brought Allen further out of the play as opposed to having Johnson sit there with his hand on his knees.
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Post#651 » by re49gb_2gho32fp » Wed Jan 5, 2011 9:39 pm

what if darko rotated around JO to the left and got free. that way with ridnour seeing allen coming he could've passed it to darko for the easy bucket as allen wouldnt be able to do much other than foul. Of course, problem is that would be deviating from the setup and made the lane smaller for ridnour to run in.

not sure why i said this.
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Post#652 » by horaceworthy » Wed Jan 5, 2011 9:39 pm

Greco21 wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:Kobe Bryant has difficulty scoring on an ISO against Boston. Rambis designed a great play. Ridnour should have made the extra pass to Johnson, but didn't. Allen made a play that only a hall of famer could make.

So Blame Rambis? Really dumb. If any of our last three coaches were here we'd probably still be getting blown out by 20-30 every night.


Do you believe that Wes Johnson made a good cut? IMO he should try to get the attention of Ray Allen somehow. Throw a body, start to run a little earlier, pick a spot... I feel he did not react on time. He was passive.

Anyway i am not saying that it his fault... its Luke to the end.

Wes was camped at the corner to provide spacing. Allen started to move toward the paint before Ridnour even broke free because he knew he was the guy who had to provide weak-side help. He wasn't even paying attention to Wes. Once Ridnour caught the ball Wes cut to the basket. He was open if Luke had seen him.

I have no issue with the play call. It put the Wolves in position to take the lead there, with Ray Allen having to guard the paint against both Ridnour and Wes. Would have been nice if Ridnour had made the right decision and dumped it to Wes, but that didn't happen.

The only thing I had an issue with was them waiting too long to get the ball back to Beasley after he made the stupid turnover.

Well, that and the TO Rambis called when Love had a wide open Wes downcourt. I understand that just about every coach in the league would call that timeout, particularly with a young team, it was just frustrating because I was excited about a potential game winning touchdown pass from Love to Wes.
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Post#653 » by shangrila » Wed Jan 5, 2011 9:48 pm

You know who would have made that shot? Jerryd Bayless

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Post#654 » by CoffeeJanitor » Wed Jan 5, 2011 9:53 pm

shangrila wrote:You know who would have made that shot? Jerryd Bayless

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Post#655 » by shangrila » Wed Jan 5, 2011 10:12 pm

See, exactly what I'm talking about. He's a playa

horaceworthy wrote:Well, that and the TO Rambis called when Love had a wide open Wes downcourt. I understand that just about every coach in the league would call that timeout, particularly with a young team, it was just frustrating because I was excited about a potential game winning touchdown pass from Love to Wes.

From what I saw it was Love that called the timeout. Maybe I'm wrong, but it looked like his hands were making a T
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Post#656 » by horaceworthy » Wed Jan 5, 2011 10:20 pm

Love didn't call the timeout. He secured the ball at his waist, saw Wes, raised the ball to make the pass and then heard the whistle. His in the moment reaction was one of surprise that the whistle blew.
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Post#657 » by CoffeeJanitor » Wed Jan 5, 2011 11:15 pm

horaceworthy wrote:Love didn't call the timeout. He secured the ball at his waist, saw Wes, raised the ball to make the pass and then heard the whistle. His in the moment reaction was one of surprise that the whistle blew.
After watching the replays several times, I'm still not really sure if he signaled it or not. I'm sure Rambis called it at the same time even if he did signal it, though.
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Post#658 » by horaceworthy » Wed Jan 5, 2011 11:34 pm

I'm fairly certain Love didn't call it and Rambis did. Just from watching it a few times, plus his reaction when the whistle blew.

I'm not going to hold it against Rambis, not many coaches would just let their team play in that situation, particularly a young one like the Wolves. Water under the bridge and whatnot.
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