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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#521 » by Blackmun » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:25 pm

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dcash4 wrote:the point is there isn't any report that the knicks have been holding back assets and the nuggets are somehow trying to get them to offer more. only report that has come out of any knicks/nuggets negotiations is that the nuggets don't want what the knicks have. last report is that the nuggets aren't even responding to the knicks.


That and Chris Sheriden stringing Knicks fans along thinking they are in discussions somewhere. Right now, the Knicks aren't an option. It's Denver and New Jersey by way of Detroit. That's it by every account except for out of New York. Yet other fans are called delusional.


Yet, the deal isn`t made. Nets are allegedly offering the Kingdom and the Princess`s virginity, and the deal hasn`t been made.

I can`t tell you what that means, but it certainly means something.
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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#522 » by HeyJoe » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:25 pm

Jordan45822 wrote:http://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/24509083352563712

Den swinging for fences: sources say in addition to Harrington, they're pushing NJ to take Renaldo Balkman & maybe give up 1st rounder too 7 minutes ago via Echofon Retweeted by 17 people


Damn Denver. just come out and say that you don't want (or have the guts) to trade Anthony because thats what I think is going on.


hahahhaha

everyone in new jersey's front office should be fired for the way they're handling this

let the offer sit 'til the deadline, then denver will be the one begging for the trade
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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#523 » by droponov » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:28 pm

HeyJoe wrote:
Jordan45822 wrote:http://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/24509083352563712

Den swinging for fences: sources say in addition to Harrington, they're pushing NJ to take Renaldo Balkman & maybe give up 1st rounder too 7 minutes ago via Echofon Retweeted by 17 people


Damn Denver. just come out and say that you don't want (or have the guts) to trade Anthony because thats what I think is going on.


hahahhaha

everyone in new jersey's front office should be fired for the way they're handling this

let the offer sit 'til the deadline, then denver will be the one begging for the trade


No, they won't.

Melo won't be a free-agent this Summer. Go from there.
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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#524 » by illiance » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:28 pm

Jordan45822 wrote:http://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/24509083352563712

Den swinging for fences: sources say in addition to Harrington, they're pushing NJ to take Renaldo Balkman & maybe give up 1st rounder too 7 minutes ago via Echofon Retweeted by 17 people


Damn Denver. just come out and say that you don't want (or have the guts) to trade Anthony because thats what I think is going on.

I'm betting this is going to fall through because you can't just keep stringing people along saying "This deal is fine", and then continuing to demand for more and more.
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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#525 » by Blackmun » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:29 pm

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Jordan45822 wrote:http://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/24509083352563712

Den swinging for fences: sources say in addition to Harrington, they're pushing NJ to take Renaldo Balkman & maybe give up 1st rounder too 7 minutes ago via Echofon Retweeted by 17 people


Damn Denver. just come out and say that you don't want (or have the guts) to trade Anthony because thats what I think is going on.

I'm betting this is going to fall through because you can't just keep stringing people along saying "This deal is fine", and then continuing to demand for more and more.


It that not what pretty girls have been doing to guys since the beginning of time? Has worked fine, so far!
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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#526 » by Jetset » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:37 pm

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Jetset wrote:lol someone's still in denial, so you think all of this is made up just to get the Knicks to raise their price? As you Knick fans like to say "c'mon son" lets get real you cannot come close to the deal the Nets are giving with Turiaf, AR and junk just face the facts that throughout Stoudemire's primed days you'll be fighting for the 6th seed.


Well, 1) it could be all made up to push the Knicks, if Melo has in fact made it clear he only wants the Knicks. Then yes, they would have to do "something" to squeeze Donnie`s balls.

2) The current Knicks with Amare is better than the Nets this trade would create. So that half-witted "insult" seems kinda (Please Use More Appropriate Word).

The reason a lot of people are feeling kinda "???" about this whole thing is because so much of it seems plain (Please Use More Appropriate Word).

First of all, Melo would end up on a gutted team, which is weaker than his current Nuggets.

Secondly, he has previously made it clear he isn`t interested in Nets, now suddenly the inclusion of Rip Hamilton is changing his mind?

Really? Rip, ****, Hamilton? 32 years old, and mediocre at best? That`s what is changing his mind? Seriously?


basically covered all my points. thanks.

and just for another, why would denver not offer detroit kmart for rip and maxiell and keep melo? it just seems suspicious and it wouldnt be the first time I was in "denial" about melo going too nj. this is like the 5th yet i still see him in a nuggets jersey.

Well...1) For starters its out of Carmelo's hands now. From here on out its going to be about what Denver thinks is best for it's future they are determined not to end up like Cleveland and I can't fault them for that. If NYK had some pieces to trade that would make the rebuilding process little to no time at all then he would be with the Knicks. They're getting a stud in Favors, a serviceable PG in Harris and two 1st rounders thats the best deal they're going to get. Not all that high on Gallinari and obviously Denver isn't either, you're not willing to trade Chandler, and yeah Landry Fields is a deal breaker...... You're not even willing to attempt to trade up to Melo's value thats why I'm sure Denver has cut ties with you leaving NJ his only destination.
2) Your little revival with Stoudemire isn't going to last long those knees will give in and you'll be stuck eating his fat contract I hope you enjoy. The Nets have a future all star whom can give them 10+ yrs of production. While the Knicks have the uncertainty of whether or not Amare's knees will hold up for the next 3-5 yrs. I believe the reason why his mind has changed is because of Leon Rose. He's pulling the strings behind this trade basically, and I'm sure that he's sold Melo on that if Melo goes to NJ he can get him Chris Paul. First James, now Melo it looks like you Knick fans have once again got your hopes up for nothing. Enjoy your future.
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Post#527 » by Blackmun » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:52 pm

Jetset wrote:Well...1) For starters its out of Carmelo's hands now. From here on out its going to be about what Denver thinks is best for it's future they are determined not to end up like Cleveland and I can't fault them for that.


Please explain? How can whether Melo signs a contract extension or not be out of his hands? This makes absolutely no sense.

It is only, and completely in Melo's hands.

If NYK had some pieces to trade that would make the rebuilding process little to no time at all then he would be with the Knicks. They're getting a stud in Favors, a serviceable PG in Harris and two 1st rounders thats the best deal they're going to get. Not all that high on Gallinari and obviously Denver isn't either, you're not willing to trade Chandler, and yeah Landry Fields is a deal breaker...... You're not even willing to attempt to trade up to Melo's value thats why I'm sure Denver has cut ties with you leaving NJ his only destination.


I don't think anyone disagrees that the Nets offer is better than the Knicks offer in terms of materials.

The argument is that if Melo only wants to go to the Knicks, it doesn't matter that the Nets offer is better, because nobody can force him to sign a contract extension with a team he doesn't want to.

2) Your little revival with Stoudemire isn't going to last long those knees will give in and you'll be stuck eating his fat contract I hope you enjoy. The Nets have a future all star whom can give them 10+ yrs of production. While the Knicks have the uncertainty of whether or not Amare's knees will hold up for the next 3-5 yrs.


Whether or not Amares knee is going to hold up, neither you, nor me, or anyone else knows. Maybe it will, maybe it won't. That being said - it seems pretty clear that the next CBA will contain a provision to allow teams to exempt the salary cap space for injured players more easily, so this is quite possibly not an issue.

As for Knicks versus the Nets; even if you do get Melo, you're still going to be second rate, you're still going to be playing in front of half empty arenas, you're still going to be in Newark, NJ. And even when (or rather if) the team moves to Brooklyn, you're at best going to have the status of Mets compared to the Yankees.

I believe the reason why his mind has changed is because of Leon Rose. He's pulling the strings behind this trade basically, and I'm sure that he's sold Melo on that if Melo goes to NJ he can get him Chris Paul. First James, now Melo it looks like you Knick fans have once again got your hopes up for nothing. Enjoy your future.


It's funny how someone who apparently supports a team that 1) has a .270 record and 2) is just waiting to move away from his location is making fun of another team's future.

Must be great to have a crystal ball that tells you everything about how amazing the Nets' future is going to be though.

And good job making fun of Lebron turning down Knicks, as if the Nets weren't down on their knees, trying to get him to sign.
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Post#528 » by omerome » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:58 pm

Jetset wrote:Well...1) For starters its out of Carmelo's hands now. From here on out its going to be about what Denver thinks is best for it's future they are determined not to end up like Cleveland and I can't fault them for that. If NYK had some pieces to trade that would make the rebuilding process little to no time at all then he would be with the Knicks. They're getting a stud in Favors, a serviceable PG in Harris and two 1st rounders thats the best deal they're going to get. Not all that high on Gallinari and obviously Denver isn't either, you're not willing to trade Chandler, and yeah Landry Fields is a deal breaker...... You're not even willing to attempt to trade up to Melo's value thats why I'm sure Denver has cut ties with you leaving NJ his only destination.
2) Your little revival with Stoudemire isn't going to last long those knees will give in and you'll be stuck eating his fat contract I hope you enjoy. The Nets have a future all star whom can give them 10+ yrs of production. While the Knicks have the uncertainty of whether or not Amare's knees will hold up for the next 3-5 yrs. I believe the reason why his mind has changed is because of Leon Rose. He's pulling the strings behind this trade basically, and I'm sure that he's sold Melo on that if Melo goes to NJ he can get him Chris Paul. First James, now Melo it looks like you Knick fans have once again got your hopes up for nothing. Enjoy your future.

I won't address you completely like the previous poster did but it's responses like these that show the lack of intelligence and understanding you have.

Whether we get Carmelo or not won't kill the future of the Knicks. The team will improve with or without him.

It really does seem you are more focused on just "1-upping" the Knicks instead of actually rooting for your own team to succeed. I suggest you take some of that energy and put it into something more productive.
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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#529 » by Jetset » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:02 pm

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Jetset wrote:Well...1) For starters its out of Carmelo's hands now. From here on out its going to be about what Denver thinks is best for it's future they are determined not to end up like Cleveland and I can't fault them for that.


Please explain? How can whether Melo signs a contract extension or not be out of his hands? This makes absolutely no sense.

It is only, and completely in Melo's hands.

If NYK had some pieces to trade that would make the rebuilding process little to no time at all then he would be with the Knicks. They're getting a stud in Favors, a serviceable PG in Harris and two 1st rounders thats the best deal they're going to get. Not all that high on Gallinari and obviously Denver isn't either, you're not willing to trade Chandler, and yeah Landry Fields is a deal breaker...... You're not even willing to attempt to trade up to Melo's value thats why I'm sure Denver has cut ties with you leaving NJ his only destination.


I don't think anyone disagrees that the Nets offer is better than the Knicks offer in terms of materials.

The argument is that if Melo only wants to go to the Knicks, it doesn't matter that the Nets offer is better, because nobody can force him to sign a contract extension with a team he doesn't want to.

2) Your little revival with Stoudemire isn't going to last long those knees will give in and you'll be stuck eating his fat contract I hope you enjoy. The Nets have a future all star whom can give them 10+ yrs of production. While the Knicks have the uncertainty of whether or not Amare's knees will hold up for the next 3-5 yrs.


Whether or not Amares knee is going to hold up, neither you, nor me, or anyone else knows. Maybe it will, maybe it won't. That being said - it seems pretty clear that the next CBA will contain a provision to allow teams to exempt the salary cap space for injured players more easily, so this is quite possibly not an issue.

As for Knicks versus the Nets; even if you do get Melo, you're still going to be second rate, you're still going to be playing in front of half empty arenas, you're still going to be in Newark, NJ. And even when (or rather if) the team moves to Brooklyn, you're at best going to have the status of Mets compared to the Yankees.

I believe the reason why his mind has changed is because of Leon Rose. He's pulling the strings behind this trade basically, and I'm sure that he's sold Melo on that if Melo goes to NJ he can get him Chris Paul. First James, now Melo it looks like you Knick fans have once again got your hopes up for nothing. Enjoy your future.


It's funny how someone who apparently supports a team that 1) has a .270 record and 2) is just waiting to move away from his location is making fun of another team's future.

Must be great to have a crystal ball that tells you everything about how amazing the Nets' future is going to be though.

And good job making fun of Lebron turning down Knicks, as if the Nets weren't down on their knees, trying to get him to sign.

Actually Blackmum my team has a .711 record, Kobe Bryant, and a chance to win a title this year I doubt it'll be moving for a long time. I'm just pointing out if this trade gets done and something happens to Amare, your future looks pretty bleak almost as bleak as ours after this season. And if it were up to Melo wouldn't he be in a NYK uniform like he wants to be? And now with this stipulation with Al Harrington it should be obvious Denver is running these talks now.
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Post#530 » by darth_federer » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:04 pm

Cant blame Denver for trying to get as much as possible. Remember if this deal goes through without them getting rid of guys they have a 86 million dollar payroll. Thats too much so they need to get rid of guys.

Dont understand fans getting pissed off though. In the past this kind of stuff would not leak but with twitter seems like everybody wants to judge and complain..
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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#531 » by Jmonty580 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:06 pm

Denver may be running the talks but Melo holds most of the chips. Denver is praying that getting the extention signed means the most to Melo. They will keep playing that angel until the last moment. If Melo holds out he will go to NY and Denver has to settle. If he doesnt, he can end up in NJ or somewhere else I guess. Dont be fooled though, this is about what Melo wants and if he is willing to let that extention go in order to play where he wants to play. Where he wants to play is still up for debate, but at the end of the day he controls his future not Denver.
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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#532 » by Blackmun » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:09 pm

Jetset wrote:Actually Blackmum my team has a .711 record, Kobe Bryant, and a chance to win a title this year I doubt it'll be moving for a long time. I'm just pointing out if this trade gets done and something happens to Amare, your future looks pretty bleak almost as bleak as ours after this season. And if it were up to Melo wouldn't he be in a NYK uniform like he wants to be? And now with this stipulation with Al Harrington it should be obvious Denver is running these talks now.


I guess me assuming you are a Nets fan is about as reasonable as you assuming I'm a Knicks fan.

Actually, more so, at least you don't have an avatar that proves otherwise.
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Am I missing something about Melo wanting to go to NJ? 

Post#533 » by wwtsm » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:18 pm

Am I missing something? Has Melo not made it pretty much crystal clear that he does not want to go to NJ? If he did, wouldn't this trade have already happened months ago? It's not like one first round pick is really the snag to this whole deal.
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Post#534 » by Blackmun » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:20 pm

If only there was a thread already talking about this...
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Re: Am I missing something about Melo wanting to go to NJ? 

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Post#536 » by contract » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:21 pm

wwtsm wrote:Am I missing something? Has Melo not made it pretty much crystal clear that he does not want to go to NJ? If he did, wouldn't this trade have already happened months ago?

Yep. The Nets are obviously willing to give up the farm and take every bad contract in the world with him, so there's no hold up on that end.

This flares up every few weeks as the Nuggets try to scare the Knicks into improving their offer. The Knicks just aren't biting though.
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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#537 » by Jetset » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:21 pm

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Jetset wrote:Actually Blackmum my team has a .711 record, Kobe Bryant, and a chance to win a title this year I doubt it'll be moving for a long time. I'm just pointing out if this trade gets done and something happens to Amare, your future looks pretty bleak almost as bleak as ours after this season. And if it were up to Melo wouldn't he be in a NYK uniform like he wants to be? And now with this stipulation with Al Harrington it should be obvious Denver is running these talks now.


I guess me assuming you are a Nets fan is about as reasonable as you assuming I'm a Knicks fan.

Actually, more so, at least you don't have an avatar that proves otherwise.

Touche, judging from your location and seeing as you have an avatar of a team that no longer exists I figured you were also a current Knick fan. Didn't really know that you had to have an avatar and sig of the team you root for. If thats the case I'd better get to work making one.
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Post#538 » by darth_federer » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:21 pm

Do you really think NBA GM's would have spent days on this deal and involved other teams if they hadnt made sure that Melo was ok with going to New Jersey? All it takes is one phone call to his agent. They would not have got this far if there wasnt fire to all the smoke.

The waffling is over Denver wanting more.
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Re: Am I missing something about Melo wanting to go to NJ? 

Post#539 » by ClarenceDerozan » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:22 pm

He either goes to NJ, extends, or re-signs with Denver, or he loses upwards of 60+M over the years. Sure, he can cry like a baby afterward and demand a trade, but that would be really pathetic.
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Post#540 » by ndnow » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:22 pm

darth_federer wrote:Do you really think NBA GM's would have spent days on this deal and involved other teams if they hadnt made sure that Melo was ok with going to New Jersey? All it takes is one phone call to his agent. They would not have got this far if there wasnt fire to all the smoke.

The waffling is over Denver wanting more.


Does Melo have a no trade cluase?

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