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[Camelo Thread Part 7]

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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 7] 

Post#1181 » by moocow007 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:42 pm

Jay10 wrote:
NYK0605 wrote:What about a 3 way trade?

Denver gets: Favors, Gallo, Randolph, 2 1st round picks.

NJ gets: Harrington, Billups

NY gets: Carmelo


lol@ Harrington being the face of the franchise


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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 7] 

Post#1182 » by AllanHoustonFan » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:43 pm

SAS is hit or miss as far as I know. Didn't he swear left and right Kobe would be a knick?
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 7] 

Post#1183 » by aggo » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:47 pm

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fresko024 wrote:
johnnywishbone wrote:This Melo madness is officially now on Lebron James/He Got Game level.

Media is so freaking crazy in this country/world. Journalists should have to apply for a license and there should be a board that governs ethics. Too many erroneous articles and you get suspended.

If you look at the Lebron James' situation/decision - every journalist was wrong with the exception of Steven A. Smith. And he was probably just lucky. So why do we buy into any of this?


Stephen A actually guaranteed the Knicks during the season and then said the Heat 2 days before Lebron announced his decision but Stephen A has been most right

SAS said Lebron was going to Miami like 3 weeks before "The Decision"


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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 7] 

Post#1184 » by Pharmcat » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:58 pm

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Pharmcat wrote:i dont have time to look the articles up right now

but I clearly remember from the late summer time it was one of AR and Gallo, and then come fall time, it was swtiched to they can have both but not fields



:roll:


dude when i asked what best NY offer was, I remember you yourself said eddy/gallo/1st rd pick from what you had heard


and in the fall sheridan had the article that they can have both gallo and AR, but not fields...DEN may be on crack, but like i said, ny changed its mind on what was willing to be offered (from late summer time, to fall, etc), and I guess who can blame them, no one thought AR would be garbage
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 7] 

Post#1185 » by GONYK » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:00 pm

Pharmcat wrote:
AllanHoustonFan wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:i dont have time to look the articles up right now

but I clearly remember from the late summer time it was one of AR and Gallo, and then come fall time, it was swtiched to they can have both but not fields



:roll:


dude when i asked what best NY offer was, I remember you yourself said eddy/gallo/1st rd pick from what you had heard


and in the fall sheridan had the article that they can have both gallo and AR, but not fields...DEN may be on crack, but like i said, ny changed its mind on what was willing to be offered (from late summer time, to fall, etc), and I guess who can blame them, no one thought AR would be garbage

So you are mad at Donnie for improving the offer?
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 7] 

Post#1186 » by AllanHoustonFan » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:02 pm

FisolaNYDN Frank Isola
Amar'e on Knicks vying 4 Melo: "We’re playing well.I’m not sure what the logistics are as far as a deal so I don’t know what’s going on"

Watch Asshola turn that into Amar'e not wanting Melo (again)
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 7] 

Post#1187 » by Knicker23 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:05 pm

There's only so much Donnie can do with a team that doesn't "like our assets" aka "doesn't want to deal with us" . . Donnie can offer everything we've got, and there's no reason to think he hasn't, but if Denver sees it as 'giving in' by sending Melo here - that is out of Donnie's hands. .

I too will feel disappointed in Donnie if he doesn't get Melo here, but at the same time, I doubt there is much more Donnie could have done or offered that would have changed the situation. . it's been out of his hands from the get go. . if there's someone to blame, it will be Melo for not holding out on a trade to the Knicks.
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 7] 

Post#1188 » by Pharmcat » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:06 pm

GONYK wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:
AllanHoustonFan wrote:

:roll:


dude when i asked what best NY offer was, I remember you yourself said eddy/gallo/1st rd pick from what you had heard


and in the fall sheridan had the article that they can have both gallo and AR, but not fields...DEN may be on crack, but like i said, ny changed its mind on what was willing to be offered (from late summer time, to fall, etc), and I guess who can blame them, no one thought AR would be garbage

So you are mad at Donnie for improving the offer?


no but i can see why melo thinks NY isnt interested with waffling offers and no reports in the last few weeks now of any new offer
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 7] 

Post#1189 » by GONYK » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:09 pm

Pharmcat wrote:no but i can see why melo thinks NY isnt interested with waffling offers and no reports in the last few weeks now of any new offer

How is that waffling? The core of the trade is the same, except now they improved it by adding Randolph.

This is like when you said Melo doesn't want to come because of the asbestos. You are reaching.
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Post#1190 » by johnnywishbone » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:10 pm

Pharmcat wrote:no but i can see why melo thinks NY isnt interested with waffling offers and no reports in the last few weeks now of any new offer


I think Melo and his advisers are pretty sophisticated. And even an unsophisticated person can see the Knicks have not made any moves to improve this team because they are waiting to see how this whole Melodrama all plays out.

If Melo really thought the Knicks didn't want him - do you really believe he wouldn't have signed his extension yet?
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 7] 

Post#1191 » by Pharmcat » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:12 pm

Knicker23 wrote:There's only so much Donnie can do with a team that doesn't "like our assets" aka "doesn't want to deal with us" . . Donnie can offer everything we've got, and there's no reason to think he hasn't, but if Denver sees it as 'giving in' by sending Melo here - that is out of Donnie's hands. .

I too will feel disappointed in Donnie if he doesn't get Melo here, but at the same time, I doubt there is much more Donnie could have done or offered that would have changed the situation. . it's been out of his hands from the get go. . if there's someone to blame, it will be Melo for not holding out on a trade to the Knicks.


if donnie cant land melo, its a bigger failure than lbj

lbj never wanted to come here
melo is clamoring for 5 months to come here
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 7] 

Post#1192 » by PrecociousNeoph » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:12 pm

Pharmcat wrote:
AllanHoustonFan wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:i dont have time to look the articles up right now

but I clearly remember from the late summer time it was one of AR and Gallo, and then come fall time, it was swtiched to they can have both but not fields



:roll:


dude when i asked what best NY offer was, I remember you yourself said eddy/gallo/1st rd pick from what you had heard


and in the fall sheridan had the article that they can have both gallo and AR, but not fields...DEN may be on crack, but like i said, ny changed its mind on what was willing to be offered (from late summer time, to fall, etc), and I guess who can blame them, no one thought AR would be garbage


his frustration with you isn't what you're arguing. it's the fact that you choose to accept one type of article as gospel (donnie is incompetent) and reject all others (denver never gave us a chance), despite them all having equally ambiguous credibility.

again, it's not the point that you argue that pisses people off. it's the way you choose to believe the articles that speculate that donnie is an idiot, followed by a roll eyes smiley and a 'wake up donnie', and choose to not believe the articles that suggest otherwise, despite them all being equally unsubstantiated.

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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 7] 

Post#1193 » by GONYK » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:13 pm

Pharmcat wrote:
Knicker23 wrote:There's only so much Donnie can do with a team that doesn't "like our assets" aka "doesn't want to deal with us" . . Donnie can offer everything we've got, and there's no reason to think he hasn't, but if Denver sees it as 'giving in' by sending Melo here - that is out of Donnie's hands. .

I too will feel disappointed in Donnie if he doesn't get Melo here, but at the same time, I doubt there is much more Donnie could have done or offered that would have changed the situation. . it's been out of his hands from the get go. . if there's someone to blame, it will be Melo for not holding out on a trade to the Knicks.


if donnie cant land melo, its a bigger failure than lbj

lbj never wanted to come here
melo is clamoring for 5 months to come here

It's out of Donnie's hands. It's up to Melo to get himself here, not Donnie.
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 7] 

Post#1194 » by Falstaffxx » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:14 pm

Pharmcat wrote:
no but i can see why melo thinks NY isnt interested with waffling offers and no reports in the last few weeks now of any new offer


I think you need to support your premises before you ask people to debate your conclusions.
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 7] 

Post#1195 » by Pharmcat » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:15 pm

GONYK wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:
Knicker23 wrote:There's only so much Donnie can do with a team that doesn't "like our assets" aka "doesn't want to deal with us" . . Donnie can offer everything we've got, and there's no reason to think he hasn't, but if Denver sees it as 'giving in' by sending Melo here - that is out of Donnie's hands. .

I too will feel disappointed in Donnie if he doesn't get Melo here, but at the same time, I doubt there is much more Donnie could have done or offered that would have changed the situation. . it's been out of his hands from the get go. . if there's someone to blame, it will be Melo for not holding out on a trade to the Knicks.


if donnie cant land melo, its a bigger failure than lbj

lbj never wanted to come here
melo is clamoring for 5 months to come here

It's out of Donnie's hands. It's up to Melo to get himself here, not Donnie.


so then why do teams pay GMs millions per year? its the job of the gm to get the player
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Post#1196 » by Falstaffxx » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:16 pm

Pharmcat wrote:
GONYK wrote:It's out of Donnie's hands. It's up to Melo to get himself here, not Donnie.


so then why do teams pay GMs millions per year? its the job of the gm to get the player


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Post#1197 » by djkinetic » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:16 pm

Pharmcat wrote:no but i can see why melo thinks NY isnt interested with waffling offers and no reports in the last few weeks now of any new offer


As has been said before, it takes more then 1 willing party to negotiate. Walsh could come out publicly and say here's our offer or even leave Denver's Front Office a voicemail, but if they don't return a call, or hell even send Walsh an email, then a deal can't be made. For that you can't fault Walsh for not bothering to make a new offer. If he's made calls to their Front Office and been given the cold shoulder then screw them. If they end up calling Walsh back at the deadline then you lowball the sh*t outta them for not dealing with you in the first place.
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 7] 

Post#1198 » by GONYK » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:17 pm

Pharmcat wrote:
so then why do teams pay GMs millions per year? its the job of the gm to get the player

Not in this case. In this case, Denver doesn't want to deal with us. Therefore, only Melo can force the issue.

You aren't this dense. I don't know why you are pretending to be.
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 7] 

Post#1199 » by nyknicks2k2 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:17 pm

Where is this "Melo doesn't think we want him" stuff coming from?
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 7] 

Post#1200 » by GONYK » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:19 pm

nyknicks2k2 wrote:Where is this "Melo doesn't think we want him" stuff coming from?


christomasson Chris Tomasson
Melo: "NY is playing well right now. I don't think they're looking at me They wouldn't want me to come in there and mess what they have up''

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After his NY comment, Melo then said, "That's what I've read so.''

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