[Camelo Thread Part 8] - NJ Gets Threats From Denver!

[Th3Gr3at3st]

this is what's gonna happen.
AR is gonna get a chance to play in minn,
he's gonna look fantastic after a while,
all the people who wanted him to play will say "see!"
and all the idiots who say he he sucks are gonna say, "let it go. he didn't show that here. yada yadad yadada"
as its usual.

Pretty much.

[Knickplaya]

Ok besides his love for Blake Griffin and the Clippers, he still brings up good points as to why going to the Nets would be a big mistake.

Anyway I predict there will be "huge" Carmelo news tonight after the game against Miami.

Why after tyonight? Just because that bozo Lebron is playing and there is more media hype. Don't get me wrong. I HOPE YOUR RIGHT. But I don't know, this seems like it will continue to run it's course taking longer than sooner.

Maybe I'm reaching for the moon here but if Melo hasn't figured it out by now, he will realize tonight that if he goes to the Nets he will only get knocked out by the heat every year in the first round as an 8th seed. He will then finally tell the Nets to fu*k off and everything will be back to square one.

I am more concerned with Denver finally giving in to giving us Melo in a fair trade.

[Marty McFly]

this is what's gonna happen.
AR is gonna get a chance to play in minn,
he's gonna look fantastic after a while,
all the people who wanted him to play will say "see!"
and all the idiots who say he he sucks are gonna say, "let it go. he didn't show that here. yada yadad yadada"
as its usual.

Pretty much.

the only upside to this trade is that you'll be going to the minny board.

[god shammgod]

this is what's gonna happen.
AR is gonna get a chance to play in minn,
he's gonna look fantastic after a while,
all the people who wanted him to play will say "see!"
and all the idiots who say he he sucks are gonna say, "let it go. he didn't show that here. yada yadad yadada"
as its usual.

if mike is never going to play him enough what does it matter what his potential is ? he's not going to reach it here, right ?

[BigUgly]

How can you not love Blake?

+ 1 I LOVE watching him play . Once he gets a mid range game he may be the best big in the NBA better than Howard

[JohnStarksTheDunk]

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Good article by Bill Simmons on why Carmelo to the Nets would be career suicide

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/st ... ortCat=nba

Simmons made several good points until the second half of the column got deleted and replaced by a Blake Griffin love letter.

+1

It's kind of funny how he says that the Nets will always be 2nd in NYC (I agree), but then suggests Melo should go the Clips, who will always be overshadowed by the Lakers. The only difference is that, unlike the Nets, the Clippers have a cheap owner.

[Flaming Mo]

Randolph apparently hasnt done anything that would earn him minutes. If someone cant take advantage of his opportunities, screw him. Waste another team's time...

But if there's no Melo deal, isn't AR (who's still young) better then a 20 something pick in the upcoming weak draft?

Not if he cant get on the court. Im sure D'Antoni has a reason for not playing him and Im sick and tired of giving spoiled mentally challenged players the benefit of the doubt. Now why keep a player who cant get on the court for us and not take a chance to draft a player that potentially could be a contributor for the team. Imagine how much better we would be if we could find another Chandler/Fields type of player with that pick instead of giving AR all that time...

[HEZI]

Randolph apparently hasnt done anything that would earn him minutes. If someone cant take advantage of his opportunities, screw him. Waste another team's time...

But if there's no Melo deal, isn't AR (who's still young) better then a 20 something pick in the upcoming weak draft?

Not if he cant get on the court. Im sure D'Antoni has a reason for not playing him and Im sick and tired of giving spoiled mentally challenged players the benefit of the doubt. Now why keep a player who cant get on the court for us and not take a chance to draft a player that potentially could be a contributor for the team. Imagine how much better we would be if we could find another Chandler/Fields type of player with that pick instead of giving AR all that time...

Exactly

[JohnStarksTheDunk]

He's nothing more than a Pop Culture writer who grew up on the same vintage basketball era most did and is telling stories about his experiences. Namely about he and his Dad yada yada when we were at the Garden blah blah. Mix mentions of Slaughterhouse and how there's a connection with Larry Bird, he's cool.....make mention of Heath Ledger overdosing and how Lebron's Decision parallels it, he's cool. He hasn't proven he knows anymore about the game than any other writer really he's simply more popular than most.

This is the same guy who last year had joke after joke after joke after joke after joke on us passing on Jennings but turn the page this year new story us and Melo..... he co-signs.... he's cool

Fall for anything Stand for nothing

I don't understand this point. Are you saying that a writer should always agree with the Knicks every time or criticize the Knicks every time? We don't have to agree with him, but he's entitled to have one opinion on Jennings and then a completely unrelated opinion on Melo.

[Marty McFly]

this is what's gonna happen.
AR is gonna get a chance to play in minn,
he's gonna look fantastic after a while,
all the people who wanted him to play will say "see!"
and all the idiots who say he he sucks are gonna say, "let it go. he didn't show that here. yada yadad yadada"
as its usual.

if mike is never going to play him enough what does it matter what his potential is ? he's not going to reach it here, right ?

I'm not a fortune teller, i don't know what can happen from here till 2013 (when randolph's QO comes up) but i'd rather pay potential 3 million dollars for another season than to trade him for what's most likely a low impact first round pick.

[Thats-Amareee]

There is an article on realgm mentioning Kirenlenko saying that he plans on playing in Europe if there is a lockout..are there a lot of nba players that could follow him? is it prohibited in most contract which is what I would expect?...and hey, maybe Melo should just become a free agent this summer and play in Europe next season until the lockout is complete haha

[god shammgod]

this is what's gonna happen.
AR is gonna get a chance to play in minn,
he's gonna look fantastic after a while,
all the people who wanted him to play will say "see!"
and all the idiots who say he he sucks are gonna say, "let it go. he didn't show that here. yada yadad yadada"
as its usual.

if mike is never going to play him enough what does it matter what his potential is ? he's not going to reach it here, right ?

I'm not a fortune teller, i don't know what can happen from here till 2013 (when randolph's QO comes up) but i'd rather pay potential 3 million dollars for another season than to trade him for what's most likely a low impact first round pick.

if you read this article it says that mike doesn't really like him. knowing how mike is do you think he changes his mind ?

[seren]

Funny thing is he's a front running Clippers fan. Dude flip-slops between them and Boston like a dime trick. He got married moved out to L.A. and jumped on the bandwagon until Boston made the trade for K.G. he was slobbin hard on the Clippers when they made the playoffs in 2005-2006 season. I don't see how anyone takes him seriously.

People take him seriously because he knows basketball.

He's nothing more than a Pop Culture writer who grew up on the same vintage basketball era most did and is telling stories about his experiences. Namely about he and his Dad yada yada when we were at the Garden blah blah. Mix mentions of Slaughterhouse and how there's a connection with Larry Bird, he's cool.....make mention of Heath Ledger overdosing and how Lebron's Decision parallels it, he's cool. He hasn't proven he knows anymore about the game than any other writer really he's simply more popular than most.

This is the same guy who last year had joke after joke after joke after joke after joke on us passing on Jennings but turn the page this year new story us and Melo..... he co-signs.... he's cool

Fall for anything Stand for nothing

I think you got it all wrong. What you said has no truth in it. Read his book. There is more than Dad yada yada yada in it.

And I find it funny when some people (you seem to be one of those) take positions on writers with the kind of stuff you mentioned. Simmons makes sense. When he wrote about Jennings, he had a point (though I disagreed). When he talks about how LBJ should have come to NY if not stay in Cleveland or Melo should come to NY, he still has a point. We are not talking about a guy who comes up with idiotic reports/predictions or someone who simply talks of his arse trying to convince people how NY is the worst choice for any given athlete.

[Knicks_Fan2]

Please note that this is a Berman story...

[seren]

Looking at it from denvers point of view, if they truly do not like our package of Gallo, 1st pick from AR trade (which i think is lottery protected from Min?) and curry (which in their point of view is a pretty lowball offer for their franchise player) wouldn't they just hold out til the end of the season to see if there are other offers. They can always revisit our trade at the end of the season, there's no incentive for them to do this trade before the deadline. At the very least theyd get a TPE and the 1st round pick, which for them is fine because they don't care for gallo, and would probably not extend him next season for the money he'd want. This is all assuming that Melo is going to want that extension rather than walk away and take his chances with the new CBA.

The only way Carmelo gets traded after the deadline for anything of value is if accepts the final year of his offer, and then Denver trades him.

Note, we wouldn't have Curry's deal to send back. So we'd have to send enough salary back to make it fit under the cap (Gallo would work). This scenario seems highly unlikely.

It is difficult, but not impossible. As long as Turiaf picks up his option, we can make a deal like Turiaf/Gallo/AR by renouncing right to MLE and Curry. Or we can add Mozgov and Walker to the package and keep MLE (if it still exists).

[god shammgod]

Please note that this is a Berman story...

but i think it's obviously true. mike says moz is still in the plans. there's stories about how hard rautins works. everybody else including brick mason has been given a chance. ar is just not really in the plans here.

[Knickplaya]

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[magnumt]

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