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Krappy 1st rd Mock 

Post#1 » by Krapinsky » Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:34 am

Based on my own (krappy) predicted order of finish:

1. Cleveland - Kyrie Irving
2. Sacramento - Perry Jones
3. Washington - Terrence Jones
4. Detroit - Jared Sullinger
5. Minnesota - Josh Selby
6. Toronto - Enes Kanter
7. Golden State - Jan Vesely
8. Denver (via NJ) - Derrick Williams
9. Phoenix - Marcus Morris
10. Milwaukee - Donatas Motiejunas
11. Philadelphia - Jonas Valanciunas
12. LA Clippers - Jordan Hamilton
13. Houston - Chris Singleton
14. Portland - Kemba Walker

Next three off the board: Henson, Hamilton, Knight

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Post#2 » by AQuintus » Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:53 am

If the best player on the board is Selby when Minnesota picks, I think I'd rather just trade the pick for some veteran help.
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Post#3 » by princeofpalace » Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:03 pm

I would hate for Detroit to pick Jared Sullinger at 4, he really just doesn't have much upside being undersized and limited athletically.

I think that Jonas Valunciunas, Enes Kanter or Kemba Walker would be better picks and IMO in this mock they are all far too low
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Post#4 » by Krapinsky » Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:40 pm

princeofpalace wrote:I would hate for Detroit to pick Jared Sullinger at 4, he really just doesn't have much upside being undersized and limited athletically.

I think that Jonas Valunciunas, Enes Kanter or Kemba Walker would be better picks and IMO in this mock they are all far too low


Sullinger seems like one of the few sure things in the draft to me. Those other guys have a lot of upside, but they are much more risky I think at the point in time.
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Post#5 » by Krapinsky » Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:42 pm

AQuintus wrote:If the best player on the board is Selby when Minnesota picks, I think I'd rather just trade the pick for some veteran help.


I was kind of stuck between Selby and Vesely. I like both players a lot. I sort of just assume at this point in time Randolph will be a Wolf eventually, so I figured we probably would not take another front court player. If no Randolph though, I could see us going for Vesely to add some athleticism to our front court.
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Post#6 » by babyjax13 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:51 pm

I don't think Selby goes that high...rest looks fine. If anything, Derrick Williams could jump up quite a bit.
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Post#7 » by Piecake » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:55 am

Krapinsky wrote:
AQuintus wrote:If the best player on the board is Selby when Minnesota picks, I think I'd rather just trade the pick for some veteran help.


I was kind of stuck between Selby and Vesely. I like both players a lot. I sort of just assume at this point in time Randolph will be a Wolf eventually, so I figured we probably would not take another front court player. If no Randolph though, I could see us going for Vesely to add some athleticism to our front court.


I'd much rather Have Jonas V than Selby, and I think Selby is going to lower while Jonas is going to go higher
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Post#8 » by Krapinsky » Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:05 pm

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AQuintus wrote:If the best player on the board is Selby when Minnesota picks, I think I'd rather just trade the pick for some veteran help.


I was kind of stuck between Selby and Vesely. I like both players a lot. I sort of just assume at this point in time Randolph will be a Wolf eventually, so I figured we probably would not take another front court player. If no Randolph though, I could see us going for Vesely to add some athleticism to our front court.


I'd much rather Have Jonas V than Selby, and I think Selby is going to lower while Jonas is going to go higher

And how many times have you seen Jonas play?
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Post#9 » by gswhoops » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:00 pm

Vesely would be a good fit in GS.
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Post#10 » by Piecake » Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:09 pm

Krapinsky wrote:And how many times have you seen Jonas play?


Not a lick. I'm just going on the impressions of others, but based on those impressions he seems exactly like the player we need. As for Selby, I am simply not high on him. I think he'll be a 6th man in the NBA at best.
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Post#11 » by shangrila » Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:31 am

I agree with Pie. Valanciunis at least fills a need, Selby just duplicates a position Kahn has spent his entire career filling.

I'm starting to think they'll trade down or out entirely. Nobody outside of the obvious PJ3 or Irving makes sense fit wise and there's some guys later on that look like potentially much better fits, like Singleton.
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Post#12 » by KF10 » Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:02 pm

I'm starting to think that Kemba is AT LEAST a top-8 draft choice. You can argue that Kemba is a auto top-5 choice if he does well in the tournament.
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Post#13 » by Krapinsky » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:18 pm

shangrila wrote:I agree with Pie. Valanciunis at least fills a need, Selby just duplicates a position Kahn has spent his entire career filling.

I'm starting to think they'll trade down or out entirely. Nobody outside of the obvious PJ3 or Irving makes sense fit wise and there's some guys later on that look like potentially much better fits, like Singleton.


I tend not to buy into euros that have been hyped by DX until people get a chance to see them play. Moreover, as march rolls around NCAA players will see their stock go up and euros will fall. Jonas may fill a need, but if he projects to be no better than Biedrins, is he a top 5 pick? I'm very skeptical about him. Being so young, the team that drafts him is going to have to be very patient with him to the point where he might not be an impact player until the last year of his rookie deal.
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Post#14 » by Piecake » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:31 pm

Krapinsky wrote:
shangrila wrote:I agree with Pie. Valanciunis at least fills a need, Selby just duplicates a position Kahn has spent his entire career filling.

I'm starting to think they'll trade down or out entirely. Nobody outside of the obvious PJ3 or Irving makes sense fit wise and there's some guys later on that look like potentially much better fits, like Singleton.


I tend not to buy into euros that have been hyped by DX until people get a chance to see them play. Moreover, as march rolls around NCAA players will see their stock go up and euros will fall. Jonas may fill a need, but if he projects to be no better than Biedrins, is he a top 5 pick? I'm very skeptical about him. Being so young, the team that drafts him is going to have to be very patient with him to the point where he might not be an impact player until the last year of his rookie deal.


Well yea, if other sources and opinions come out later with widely different opinions of the guy, I might reconsider. I dont think being patient is really a problem with us since I'd be fine with him coming off the bench for Darko for 2 years or so. I dont really see us trading Darko so getting a project that hustles and plays D makes sense i think
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Post#15 » by Krapinsky » Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:35 pm

2/16 UPDATE -- extended to 20


1. Cleveland - Kyrie Irving
2. Minnesota - Perry Jones
3. Toronto - Terence Jones
4. Sacramento - Harrison Barnes
5. Washington - Jared Sullinger
6. New Jersey - Derrick Williams
7. Detroit - Jonas Valanciunas
8. Clippers - Enes Kanter
9. Milwaukee - Donatas Motiejunas
10. Indiana - Jan Vesely
11. Golden State - Kawhi Leonard
12. Houston - Kemba Walker
13. Phoenix - Jordan Hamilton
14. Memphis - Alec Burks
15. Charlotte - John Henson
16. Philadelphia - Lucas Nogueira
17. New York - Jimmer Fredette
18. Portland - Brandon Knight
19. Utah - Travis Leslie
20. Denver - Marcus Morris
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Post#16 » by Krapinsky » Tue Mar 1, 2011 6:53 pm

1. Cleveland - Kyrie Irving (6'2'', PG, Duke, Fresh.)
2. Minnesota - Harrison Barnes (6'8'', SF, North Carolina, Fresh.)
3. Sacramento - Perry Jones (6'11'', PF, Baylor, Fresh.)
4. Washington - Jared Sullinger (6'9'', PF, Ohio State, Fresh.)
5. Toronto - Derrick Williams (6'9'', PF, Arizona, Soph.)
6. Utah (from NJ) - Terrence Jones (6'9'', SF, Kentucky, Fresh.)
7. Detroit - Jonas Valanciunas (6'10'', C, Lithuania)
8. Cleveland (from LAC) - Enes Kanter (6'10'', PF, Turkey)
9. Milwaukee - Jan Vesely (6'11'', SF, Czech Republic)
10. Charlotte - Alec Burks (6'6'', SG, Colorado, Soph.)
11. Indiana - John Henson (6'10", PF, UNC, Soph.)
12. Golden State - Kawhi Leonard (6'7'', SF San Diego State, Soph.)
13. Houston - Kemba Walker (6'0'', PG, UConn, Jr.)
14. Philadelphia - Donatas Motiejunas (7'0'', PF, Lithuania)
15. Phoenix - Jordan Hamilton (6'7'', SF, Texas, Soph.)
16. New York - Jimmer Fredette (6'2'', PG, BYU, Sr.)
17. Minnesota - Brandon Knight (6'3'', PG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
18. Minnesota - Lucas Nogueira (7'0'', C, Brazil)
19. Portland - Marcus Morris (6'9'', PF, Kansas, Jr.)
20. Denver - Kenneth Faried (6'8'', PF, Morehead State, Sr.)
21. Portland (from NO) - Markieff Morris (6'9'', PF, Kansas, Jr.)
22. Atlanta - Nolan Smith (6'3'', SG, Duke, Sr.)
23. Phoenix (from ORL) - Jeff Taylor (6'7", SF, Vanderbilt, Soph.)
24. Oklahoma City - Chris Singleton (6'8'', SF, Florida State, Jr.)
25. LA Lakers - Josh Selby (6'1'', PG, Kansas, Fresh.)
26. Chicago - Keith Benson (6'11", C, Oakland, Sr. )
27. Dallas - Marshon Brooks (6'5'', SG, Providence, Sr.)
28. Toronto (from MIA) - E'Tuan Moore (6'4", SG, Purdue, Sr.)
29. Boston - Klay Thompson (6'6", SG, Washington St., Jr.)
30. San Antonio - Travis Leslie (6'4", SG, Georgia, Jr.)
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Post#17 » by gswhoops » Wed Mar 2, 2011 1:33 am

Harrison is a ballsy pick at #2, but I could see it happening since the Wolves desperately need someone to play SG.

Overall a good mock - no one leaps out at me as being way too high or too low, and the picks all make sense for their team.
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Post#18 » by djthesonicsfan » Wed Mar 2, 2011 8:09 pm

Would you rig the draft so we get Jordan Hamilton please.
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Post#19 » by Krapinsky » Wed Mar 2, 2011 10:21 pm

gswhoops wrote:Harrison is a ballsy pick at #2, but I could see it happening since the Wolves desperately need someone to play SG.

Overall a good mock - no one leaps out at me as being way too high or too low, and the picks all make sense for their team.


Thank you. W/ Barnes, the pick is somewhat aided by the fact that Barnes projects to be a multi-purpose swingman, and also by the fact that Barnes is from Aimes, Iowa which is only 4 hours away from the twin cities. With a market like the twin cities it helps to take players you know wouldn't mind being their long term.
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Post#20 » by 5DOM » Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:51 am

Krapinsky wrote:With a market like the twin cities it helps to take players you know wouldn't mind being their long term.


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