B-R's Elo Player Rater = Addictive

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Re: B-R's Elo Player Rater = Addictive 

Post#21 » by shawngoat23 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:45 am

This is addicting.

Interestingly, Michael Jordan has dropped about 400 points since this evening after staying pretty stable at 3200+ for a long time. Wilt, Kareem, Shaq dropped a pretty significant amount, Russell fell a decent amount as well. Big mover upwards include Magic, Hakeem, Oscar, and Kobe.

I wonder if there's some suspicious activity going on.
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Re: B-R's Elo Player Rater = Addictive 

Post#22 » by rrravenred » Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:51 am

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Post#23 » by Weems » Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:13 am

Jordan is currently 7th. Pardon me?
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Post#24 » by Benjammin » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:34 pm

Weems wrote:Jordan is currently 7th. Pardon me?


As of 11:33am EST, he's now #1. I imagine it can fluctuate a lot in the night if someone is really determined to try and make mischief.
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Re: B-R's Elo Player Rater = Addictive 

Post#25 » by Doctor MJ » Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:11 pm

DavidStern wrote:Stockton is better than many realGMers think.


Something I find interesting is that Stockton's ranking by Elo has looked kind of like what it looked like in the original RealGM Top 100 back in 2003. In that ranking Stockton I believe was around 18 and only a few slots behind Malone.

Of course, by Elo now, Stockton has fallen into the 20s which is where later Top 100's put him, so maybe this is all meaningless.
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Re: B-R's Elo Player Rater = Addictive 

Post#26 » by Doctor MJ » Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:13 pm

Benjammin wrote:
Weems wrote:Jordan is currently 7th. Pardon me?


As of 11:33am EST, he's now #1. I imagine it can fluctuate a lot in the night if someone is really determined to try and make mischief.


Yeah that's something they need to try to fix. If people are using the system properly, it's hard for me to imagine such a big jump. If on the other hand someone finds away to refresh the same match again and again, it's easy to see how such a fall could occur overnight.
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Post#27 » by Laimbeer » Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:00 pm

Isiah is 59? **** that. **** kids getting out of school and voting. Bull ****.
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Post#28 » by Jimmy76 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:05 pm

Laimbeer wrote:Isiah is 59? **** that. **** kids getting out of school and voting. Bull ****.

Yeah that's weird, don't worry he'll be top 10 tomorrow somehow

This voting system is gonna keep things in constant flux since there's no long term weight with any vote they don't accumulate

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Post#29 » by hasslinghoff » Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:45 pm

20. s.nash
21. k.bryant

i'm not exactly the greatest fan of kobe, but wow...
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Post#30 » by CousinOfDeath » Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:56 pm

Kobe is getting shafted. I love it.
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Post#31 » by shawngoat23 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:09 am

It looks like they changed the system to allow changes of +/- 8 instead of +/- 24, which means that players will rise or fall more slowly.

This makes it really surprising how far Wilt, Kareem, and Kobe have fallen, since they were near the top of the all-time and active top 5s for a while. Those guys are getting the shaft, along with a few others (most noticeably for me, Julius Erving, who I regard as a top 10 player).

Edit: I've seen Hakeem as high as #2 recently. For those who say he gets a lot of love on RealGM, he's got a contingent somewhere else that likes him even more.
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Post#32 » by tclg » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:39 pm

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Post#33 » by Shot Clock » Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:31 pm

Interesting results so far.

1 Michael Jordan
2 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3 Bill Russell
4 Magic Johnson
5 Wilt Chamberlain
6 Larry Bird
7 Oscar Robertson
8 Tim Duncan
9 Hakeem Olajuwon
10 Shaquille O'Neal
11 Jerry West
12 Moses Malone
13 David Robinson
14 Julius Erving
15 LeBron James
16 Karl Malone
17 John Stockton
18 Kevin Garnett
19 John Havlicek
20 Charles Barkley
21 Scottie Pippen
22 Dwyane Wade
23 Steve Nash
24 Dirk Nowitzki
25 Clyde Drexler
26 Elgin Baylor
27 Bob Pettit
28 Kobe Bryant
29 Jason Kidd
30 Walt Frazier
31 Gary Payton

The biggest wtf seems to be Kobe at 28. I expected his fans to overrun this and have him firmly #1. Adversion to stats sites in that fanbase might be the root cause here.
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Re: B-R's Elo Player Rater = Addictive 

Post#34 » by penbeast0 » Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:56 pm

Shot Clock wrote:Interesting results so far.

1 Michael Jordan
2 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3 Bill Russell
4 Magic Johnson
5 Wilt Chamberlain
6 Larry Bird
7 Oscar Robertson
8 Tim Duncan
9 Hakeem Olajuwon
10 Shaquille O'Neal
11 Jerry West
12 Moses Malone
13 David Robinson
14 Julius Erving
15 LeBron James
16 Karl Malone
17 John Stockton
18 Kevin Garnett
19 John Havlicek
20 Charles Barkley
21 Scottie Pippen
22 Dwyane Wade
23 Steve Nash
24 Dirk Nowitzki
25 Clyde Drexler
26 Elgin Baylor
27 Bob Pettit
28 Kobe Bryant
29 Jason Kidd
30 Walt Frazier
31 Gary Payton

The biggest wtf seems to be Kobe at 28. I expected his fans to overrun this and have him firmly #1. Adversion to stats sites in that fanbase might be the root cause here.


If that's the result list so far, it's not bad. Yeah, there are some things I disagree with starting with Kobe being so far down but that beats the early results that were posted earlier in the thread all hollow.
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Post#35 » by Darain » Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:19 pm

Putting Wade over Kobe...

...Even Scottie Pippen...
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