Trade : help at PG

[D21]

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As MIN is looking at the lottery more than winning, they don't really need Ridnour, and could be interest to play Teague a lot and see what he can do with playing time, and responsibilities on the floor, without the pressure of a "winning team" like here.

On Webster, he has less potential than Marvin, but can fill his role, which doesn't allow Marvin to reach his potential anyway.
He's more a SG-SF, while Marvin is can play PF, and Marvin is a better rebounder.

For the superstitious, we trade the one who was picked before Paul and Williams (and Felton), for the pick of the team that traded down from 3 to 6 and also pass on these 3 PGs.

Maybe it would be better to change Webster by Corey Brewer, pairing him again with Al, and he seems to be a good energizer.
Higher than Webster, but a worst rebounder. Maybe a better defender though, but not on big SFs.

Ridnour/Bibby
Joe/Crawford
Brewer or Webster/Evans
Josh/Al
Al/Collins/Zaza

Actually, I like more this trade if it was combined with another like Josh for Bynum,
but what do you think of that ?

[myrak433]

I would try to get Tolliver from them as well. something like Tolliver, Luke, and Brewer for Teague, Marvin, and Moe Evans. line up could be something like this

Luke/Bibby
JJ/JC1
Smith/Brewer
Horford/Tollliver
ZaZA/Tolliver

or you can start Tolliver at the Center with a front court of Smoove, Horford, and Tolliver they could help one other out .... that is a big and athletic front court

[ACE_reppin_ATL]

H3LLz NO!!! Those guys wouldn't produce too much more if any at all!!!

[CALPURNIA]

I usually like trade proposals, but I believe they should be more realistic. Thinking only from our side is normal, but it would be better to put ourselves on the other team's position to see that many trades proposed here are not possible.

Minny has said many times that they do not want to trade Brewer at all and Ridanour is their only serviceable point guard, as Flint has not the confidence of the coach.

[evildallas]

Actually Flynn has been starting at PG, but Minnesota is giving minutes to whomever is hot at the time, so game to game the minutes vary. Asking for a starter and 2 reserves is a bit much when it could be argued that Brewer is not much different than Williams in terms of age and production. In fact if they trade for Anthony Randolph they may see him as their SF of the future and not want Williams contract. Reasonable idea, but not sure that Minnesota is a willing partner. I basically proposed a similar deal with Cleveland for Sessions and Parker which I think are more attainable and I believe they are slightly more likely to value Marvin Williams.

[myrak433]

Hawks may target Sessions. best news I heard all day.

http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

[azuresou1]

Hawks may target Sessions. best news I heard all day.

http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

Worst news I've heard in a while. Sessions is nothing special, not much better than Teague. We'll probably way overpay.

[myrak433]

Hawks may target Sessions. best news I heard all day.

http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

Worst news I've heard in a while. Sessions is nothing special, not much better than Teague. We'll probably way overpay.

I believe Teague could be better than Sessions, but he just doesn't have that fight in him. at least Sessions has that.

[ATL DirtyBird]

"The feeling among rival execs is that the Hawks may be willing to spend up to or perhaps even a bit beyond the luxury-tax threshold if there's a deal that would significantly improve their chances in a playoff series with Boston, Orlando or Miami."

LOL. Sessions does little to nothing and def wont significantly improve our chances.

[evildallas]

Sessions can penetrate, which is a skill set we lack.

Also I suggested a Sessions trade days ago. I hope I didn't start this rumor inadvertently.

[geeman]

this would also give Teague a little more time to pan out. I think he's only 20

Change in Team Outlook: +1.1 ppg, -2.2 rpg, and +4.0 apg.
Incoming Players
Ramon Sessions
24.5 year old , 6-3, 190 lb G from Nevada
11.9 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 5.2 apg in 25.6 minutes
Outgoing Players
Marvin Williams
24.5 year old , 6-9, 230 lb F from North Carolina
10.8 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 1.2 apg in 29.5 minutes
Cleveland Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -1.1 ppg, +2.2 rpg, and -4.0 apg.
Incoming Players
Marvin Williams
24.5 year old , 6-9, 230 lb F from North Carolina
10.8 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 1.2 apg in 29.5 minutes
Outgoing Players
Ramon Sessions
24.5 year old , 6-3, 190 lb G from Nevada
11.9 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 5.2 apg in 25.6 minutes


Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... z1EALtOFDV

[Harry10]

Sessions is okay, but wouldn't Daniel Gibson be better for the Hawks, he is shooting .446 from three.

[evildallas]

Sessions is okay, but wouldn't Daniel Gibson be better for the Hawks, he is shooting .446 from three.

No, I think he wouldn't. We need a PG who can break down a defense and create for Al and Josh. Gibson is a one trick pony who would be a younger (but not necessarily better defensively version of Bibby. He admittedly shoots well from outside, but sometimes jumpers don't fall and we see that too often which is why I think we need a penetrator.

[evildallas]

this would also give Teague a little more time to pan out. I think he's only 20

Change in Team Outlook: +1.1 ppg, -2.2 rpg, and +4.0 apg.
Incoming Players
Ramon Sessions
24.5 year old , 6-3, 190 lb G from Nevada
11.9 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 5.2 apg in 25.6 minutes
Outgoing Players
Marvin Williams
24.5 year old , 6-9, 230 lb F from North Carolina
10.8 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 1.2 apg in 29.5 minutes
Cleveland Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -1.1 ppg, +2.2 rpg, and -4.0 apg.
Incoming Players
Marvin Williams
24.5 year old , 6-9, 230 lb F from North Carolina
10.8 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 1.2 apg in 29.5 minutes
Outgoing Players
Ramon Sessions
24.5 year old , 6-3, 190 lb G from Nevada
11.9 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 5.2 apg in 25.6 minutes


Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... z1EALtOFDV

If we send out Marvin I think we should get Anthony Parker back as well. He's an experienced SF who can shoot reliably from deep and has playoff experience. His contract is expiring and he wouldn't put us over the luxury tax threshold.

[Harry10]

Sessions is okay, but wouldn't Daniel Gibson be better for the Hawks, he is shooting .446 from three.

No, I think he wouldn't. We need a PG who can break down a defense and create for Al and Josh. Gibson is a one trick pony who would be a younger (but not necessarily better defensively version of Bibby. He admittedly shoots well from outside, but sometimes jumpers don't fall and we see that too often which is why I think we need a penetrator.

Hawks already have two guys who can do that in Joe and Crawford

[azuresou1]

Sessions doesn't even penetrate as well as Teague.

[trwi7]

Sessions is a very good penetrator. I think Sessions would be a great fit for you guys.

[BAMABIRD]

I think Sessions is a solid player. He has experience from his time with the Bucks, and he actually played pretty well while with the Bucks. No, he's not CP3, but he's solid and still young; And for whats its worth, he put up 44 pts against Detroit a couple of years ago. Bibby, nor Teague can do that!

[CALPURNIA]

I see Sessions as a two guard in a point guard body. He shoots, he penetrates, but he does not set the tempo at all and do not set plays for his players.
But, if we consider this is probably the only improvement we would be getting, let's take it for good.
It is obvious that coach LD and the staff do not want tipical point guards that do the things guards do. They want to avoid that part of the game and go directly for points in shoots, penetrations, etc...
I seems to be a lie that LD played the point here in Europe in a way that widely differs from the one he has now in maind, although he also was a scorer here, as that is almost the only thing demanded from american players back then.

[ATL DirtyBird]

The goal of this trade is to help us get closer to Boston, Orlando, and Miami, do you guys believe that if we got him we would contend? I dont think it does much in that area. A bigger move is needed and possibly a complete revamping of the roster in order to contend with those guys.