[Camelo Thread Part 19] - Nyets won't be used pg 52

[seren]

One way I could see this blowing up is if Dolan is going with the mindset of 'Don't sign there or there, wait it out for us' and Prok is going in as the team Denver wants to send Melo to and is selling him on Brooklyn and getting his money...... But, if that were the case, there would be no sense in Denver allowing Dolan to meet with him, Dolan meeting with him you'd imagine has to mean there's some sort of deal in the works... he wouldn't be going in just to simply say "hey we know you will be asked to join the nets, but ya gotta wait it out for us, we don't want to give up too much to land you" - not that Dolan is stupid enough to say that.

It is finished. It is done. Why does Melo even entertain this idiocy? I have zero interest in a player who is willing to go through this.

[Starksfor3]

One way I could see this blowing up is if Dolan is going with the mindset of 'Don't sign there or there, wait it out for us' and Prok is going in as the team Denver wants to send Melo to and is selling him on Brooklyn and getting his money...... But, if that were the case, there would be no sense in Denver allowing Dolan to meet with him, Dolan meeting with him you'd imagine has to mean there's some sort of deal in the works... he wouldn't be going in just to simply say "hey we know you will be asked to join the nets, but ya gotta wait it out for us, we don't want to give up too much to land you" - not that Dolan is stupid enough to say that.

It is finished. It is done. Why does Melo even entertain this idiocy? I have zero interest in a player who is willing to go through this.

You can argue he is being the good soldier and doing what Denver asks of him. But who knows. Too much BS floating around out there.

[kosmovitelli]

There will be a bargaining session between union leaders and owners during AllStar weekend. It was mentioned a few weeks ago Jimmy Dolan would attend and I think Kroenke (the son) will probably be there too. Lebron, Wade, Garnett and other star players said they would attend the meeting so I guess Melo will also join.

Basically, if Melo is in the meeting then he will meet with Jimmy Dolan and the others owners to discuss the CBA. I guess either CAA or the Nuggets scheduled a (short) meeting with Prokhorov and Walsh after the session. It's also possible it will be a meeting between the Nuggets, Dolan and Melo (and Nuggets/Prokhorov/Melo after or before) and not a face to face meeting between Dolan/Prokhorov and Melo.

[NYman15]

This is getting crazy!! I am almost not surprised considering what has gone on through this. This is almost a fitting conclusion to this I wish we could send like Benard king out there or someone to meet with him too just like Lebron but it is curious why NY is getting a meeting too? I mean is that he wants to know our future plans or what? Boy I hope we put on a presentation for him we need him I hope he doesn't get swayed.

[Knicks D]

Just read the wire tap on what Denver wants for Mello
Chandler, Gallo, Felton, Moz, Fields, and first rounder (via trade of AR) for Mello and Billups.


If this is what it's going to cost to trade for him, I pass. I don't even think the trade would work logistically.

[Knicker23]

@Seren: finished and done in what way?

And I guarantee any meetings between the Nuggets and Melo with these owners was set up by Denver, and not Melo... Especially after the way James was received, you really think Melo asked these guys to come and 'present their best case' for him - I don't.

[K_ick_God]

There will be a bargaining session between union leaders and owners during AllStar weekend. It was mentioned a few weeks ago Jimmy Dolan would attend and I think Kroenke (the son) will probably be there too. Lebron, Wade, Garnett and other star players said they would attend the meeting so I guess Melo will also join.

Basically, if Melo is in the meeting then he will meet with Jimmy Dolan and the others owners to discuss the CBA. I guess either CAA or the Nuggets scheduled a (short) meeting with Prokhorov and Walsh after the session. It's also possible it will be a meeting between the Nuggets, Dolan and Melo (and Nuggets/Prokhorov/Melo after or before) and not a face to face meeting between Dolan/Prokhorov and Melo.

Sounds pretty reasonable to me.

[MSGLegendNY]

Guys just remember that two to three months ago we all predicted this would go to the trade deadline, and it has. There is no reason to worry or change your original opinions. People are going crazy now that it is really here, remember all this is expected.

[Bill Bradley]

Anyone else suspect that Prokhorov is doing some sketchy stuff under the table and that's why CAA pushes for NJ so hard and that Anthony even considers the Nets? The only people he's probably not paying off are the Nuggets and so they still need to pony up a boatload of assets.

[Staruk]

Just read the wire tap on what Denver wants for Mello
Chandler, Gallo, Felton, Moz, Fields, and first rounder (via trade of AR) for Mello and Billups.


If this is what it's going to cost to trade for him, I pass. I don't even think the trade would work logistically.

Wow, you are really out in front on this...BREAKING NEWS

[Knicked_Up]

these fools are on the fan right now.

[NYK Dolemite]

This all sounds real....fake!
Melo may be meeting w/Proky.
Ok, I get that. But Dolan?
The Nuggets are suposed to be meeting with Dolan, not Melo.
This sounds like a typo gone wrong and they just ran with it or something.
How and why would he meet with Dolan? Why would Denver or the NBA allow it??

Knicks are meeting with Melo to see if he is ok with Denver's offer. And if it would be worth it to give up Gallinari, Chandler and Fields. They are probably finding out if he would sign with them in the offseason too.

Ok.....so tampering means nothing here?
Or this means we've agreed to a trade and need Melo's approval?
I'm not understanding.

You understand that tampering is only actually tampering if it is done w/o consent of the current team? These meetings are obviously going to only occur with Denver giving the blessing. There's no tampering here. Don't see your point.

[BowlRips]

someone recap WFAN right now. I would but Im in classs

[JohnStarksTheDunk]

@Seren: finished and done in what way?

And I guarantee any meetings between the Nuggets and Melo with these owners was set up by Denver, and not Melo... Especially after the way James was received, you really think Melo asked these guys to come and 'present their best case' for him - I don't.

Yeah, that doesn't make sense. I could see why Prok would want to meet with him -- to convince him to re-sign with NJN. But we shouldn't need to convince him of the Knicks.

[makeitstop]

This officially turned into Decision part two. Do not want.

Seriously. This is stupid.

Plan B, Donnie. Plan B. Tell CAA/WWW to go kick rocks.

[delvec19]

Isola predicts Melo to Knicks. Iannozone (sp?) predicts Nets get him. Neither of them said anything interesting.

[j4remi]

Anyone else suspect that Prokhorov is doing some sketchy stuff under the table and that's why CAA pushes for NJ so hard and that Anthony even considers the Nets? The only people he's probably not paying off are the Nuggets and so they still need to pony up a boatload of assets.

Wouldn't shock me.

[NYman15]

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18812


Even though the Nuggets initiated the conversation with the Nets, sources close to the situation maintain that Prokhorov doesn't want to face the embarrassment associated with crawling back to the table after making such a spectacle during his press conference last month.

Also, Prokhorov isn't sold that Anthony wants to play in New Jersey and doesn't feel that he should have to beg the superstar to extend with the Nets. Prior to pulling out of trade talks, one source said that Prokhorov felt disrespected throughout the process and the idea of meeting with Anthony just to sell him on the situation annoyed the owner.



Says Prokhorov just doesn't want to get embarrassed if Melo says no and what do we make of Ken Berger's report that Melo hasn't even agreed to a meeting yet?

[Marty McFly]

there are no words for how lame i think melo is right now. i could not give two **** if he decided to go with the nets. this dude is looking worse than lebron. at least lebron took less money to play on a stacked team. this selfish idiot wants it all.


hopefully iggy will still be on the block if nothing gets done.

[NYK Dolemite]

Got to say that as crazy as the rumored asking price was towards us, the Wojo-leaked NJN offer is insane!

4 first rounders plus a huge roster turnover for Melo, Billups who will be lonmg gone by the time the team can recover from this trade, and a bunch of shwag players.

Something smells here. Makes NO sense that Nets ownership backed out due to Denver's unreasonable demands to rengage and agree to a deal in which they kick in an extra first round pick.

I'm going to be mad if the Knicks overpay -- but this is a team that is already a 40-45 game winner that figures to become a really formidable out w/ Melo. But the Nets, after this trade, a) won't make the playoffs this year and b) will probably, after the music stops, have made themselves into a 35-40 win team -- and an 8th seed that has one/done written over it for years. Nets will win maybe what 25-30 games this year if they continue with their same lineup. Melo will help but no one player adds 20 or 30 games to a team. Nets fans might point across the Hudson and see that the Knicks are likely to go from 29 wins to 40-45 and say Amar'e did that -- but in truth, Amar'e has been helped a lot by the Knicks drafting the best first-year player in the NBA, upgrading significantly at point, enjoying the growth of Gallo into a more assertive player, continued improvement from Ill Will and recent revelations in the form of Moz and to a lesser extent, Drank.


Just doesn't even seem in the realm of reality for Jersey to entertain this offer. I mean this is NBA version of Herschel Walker trade looming here.

Also would not surprise me to see Wojo on the other end of fictitious leaks from Ujiri. Wojo has been more shite than usual on this story. Weirdest trade saga I've ever seen. Just as happy to keep the baby knicks intact and go for M. Gasol T. Chandler or something not CRAZY in the summer and turn to Paul in 2012.