Top 10 Players in the NBA this season

giordunk · Post #41 » by **giordunk** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 2:03 am

Are some people seriously putting Dwight Howard over LeBron James?

Jvaughn · Post #42 » by **Jvaughn** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 2:21 am

nonemus wrote:LBJ
Howard/Wade
Kobe
Durant
Williams/Paul/Nash
Dirk
Amare
Rose/Melo

How are Williams/Paul/Nash/Amare/Melo not all easily below Rose?

NYK 455 · Post #43 » by **NYK 455** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 3:00 am

Jvaughn wrote:
nonemus wrote:LBJ
Howard/Wade
Kobe
Durant
Williams/Paul/Nash
Dirk
Amare
Rose/Melo

How are Williams/Paul/Nash/Amare/Melo not all easily below Rose?

Because they've all clearly outplayed him this year with the exception of Melo.

nitric0 · Post #44 » by **nitric0** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 4:14 am

NYK 455 wrote:
JustCame wrote:
NYK 455 wrote:Howard
LeBron
Dirk
Nash
Durant
Williams
Kobe
Gasol
Paul
Rose

Nash has been awesome this year, and totally overlooked.

Even your knick buddy's are calling you out. You have reached rock bottom sir :lol:

nonemus · Post #45 » by **nonemus** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 4:45 am

Jvaughn wrote:
nonemus wrote:LBJ
Howard/Wade
Kobe
Durant
Williams/Paul/Nash
Dirk
Amare
Rose/Melo

How are Williams/Paul/Nash/Amare/Melo not all easily below Rose?

Williams: 20/4/10, 3.2 TOV, 58% TS
Nash: 17/4/12, 3.4 TOV, 62% TS
Paul: 16/4/10, 2.3 TOV, 59% TS
Amare: 26/8/3, 3.4 TOV, 58% TS
Melo: 26/8/3, 2.9 TOV, 55% TS

Rose: 23/4/8, 3.4 TOV, 54% TS

nitric0 · Post #46 » by **nitric0** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 4:46 am

nonemus wrote:
Jvaughn wrote:
nonemus wrote:LBJ
Howard/Wade
Kobe
Durant
Williams/Paul/Nash
Dirk
Amare
Rose/Melo

How are Williams/Paul/Nash/Amare/Melo not all easily below Rose?

Williams: 20/4/10, 3.2 TOV, 58% TS
Nash: 17/4/12, 3.4 TOV, 62% TS
Paul: 16/4/10, 2.3 TOV, 59% TS
Amare: 26/8/3, 3.4 TOV, 58% TS
Melo: 26/8/3, 2.9 TOV, 55% TS

Rose: 23/4/8, 3.4 TOV, 54% TS

Dude Rose's stats are 20/2/4 :argue:

NYK 455 · Post #47 » by **NYK 455** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 4:49 am

nitric0 wrote:Even your knick buddy's are calling you out. You have reached rock bottom sir

I don't really care what another Knick fan thinks of me, or anyone else for that matter. Steve Nash has clearly outplayed Rose this year.

nonemus · Post #48 » by **nonemus** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 4:52 am

Even if he was putting up 20/2/4, Bulls fans would still think he's top 5 in the game.

nitric0 · Post #49 » by **nitric0** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 5:00 am

Tell me more :roll:

now and 4 life · Post #50 » by **now and 4 life** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 5:08 am

Lebron
Howard
Rose
Durant
Kobe
Dirk
Nash
Amare
Williams
Love

nonemus · Post #51 » by **nonemus** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 5:14 am

nitric0 wrote:Tell me more

Are you saying you agree with Deron, Nash, Paul and Amare being better than Rose?

Wavy Q · Post #52 » by **Wavy Q** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 5:17 am

my list will probably be a little unorthodox, but this is what im going with.

1. Dwight
2. LeBron
3. Dirk
4. Wade
5. Kobe
6. Durant
7. Rose
8. Deron
9. Nash
10. Melo

nitric0 · Post #53 » by **nitric0** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 5:19 am

nonemus wrote:
nitric0 wrote:Tell me more

Are you saying you agree with Deron, Nash, Paul and Amare being better than Rose?

Yes. Rose is arguably a Top 15 player. Definitely a Top 20 player though

Saber · Post #54 » by **Saber** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 5:22 am

nonemus wrote:Even if he was putting up 20/2/4, Bulls fans would still think he's top 5 in the game.

And he isn't, so whats your point?

nonemus · Post #55 » by **nonemus** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 5:27 am

Saber wrote:
nonemus wrote:Even if he was putting up 20/2/4, Bulls fans would still think he's top 5 in the game.

And he isn't, so whats your point?

That statistically, he is not at all in top-5, as most Bulls fans think he is (Many consider him better than Wade :lol:

). He's a top 9=11 player, and for his third year, that isn't bad at all. I wouldn't be surprised if he's top 5, top 3 within the next 3 years maximum, but Bulls fans are getting ahead of themselves. There isn't really a strong argument that he's better than Nash/Paul/Williams, and that's OK, it's nothing to take away from his game or potential.

Saber · Post #56 » by **Saber** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 5:45 am

nonemus wrote:
Saber wrote:
nonemus wrote:Even if he was putting up 20/2/4, Bulls fans would still think he's top 5 in the game.

And he isn't, so whats your point?

That statistically, he is not at all in top-5, as most Bulls fans think he is (Many consider him better than Wade ). He's a top 9=11 player, and for his third year, that isn't bad at all. I wouldn't be surprised if he's top 5, top 3 within the next 3 years maximum, but Bulls fans are getting ahead of themselves. There isn't really a strong argument that he's better than Nash/Paul/Williams, and that's OK, it's nothing to take away from his game or potential.

You do know that we are talking about this season alone right? Rose is playing better than Nash/Paul because if your a stats person; 25/8 is more impressive than 16/10 (despite the lower, but improving efficiency) and if your not, rose is leading his team to the second best record in the east.

Also when espn makes an article on how derrick rose is better than dwade, don't be taking it personally and attack rose because of it.

RocketPower23 · Post #57 » by **RocketPower23** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 5:51 am

Dwight
LeBron
Kobe/Wade
Wade/Kobe
Durant
Deron
Dirk
Nash
Paul
Rose

stacey_is_king · Post #58 » by **stacey_is_king** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 6:08 am

nonemus wrote:
Jvaughn wrote:
nonemus wrote:LBJ
Howard/Wade
Kobe
Durant
Williams/Paul/Nash
Dirk
Amare
Rose/Melo

How are Williams/Paul/Nash/Amare/Melo not all easily below Rose?

Williams: 20/4/10, 3.2 TOV, 58% TS
Nash: 17/4/12, 3.4 TOV, 62% TS
Paul: 16/4/10, 2.3 TOV, 59% TS
Amare: 26/8/3, 3.4 TOV, 58% TS
Melo: 26/8/3, 2.9 TOV, 55% TS

Rose: 23/4/8, 3.4 TOV, 54% TS

1) Rose's TOR is better than Williams', Nash's, Paul's, barely worse than Amare's, and worse than Melo's. His TOR is also top-10 for PG's playing over 20 mpg (it gets even better when you compare him to pg's playing 30mpg+)
2) His efficiency is below average
3) He scores or assists on more baskets than any other player in the league
4) His rebounding rate is top-10 among pg's playing 20+ mpg

That's addressing the stats you posted. In my opinion, Rose is having a better season than Nash, Amare, Melo, and Paul. I won't object if someone claims Williams is playing better.

Jvaughn · Post #59 » by **Jvaughn** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 1:32 pm

nonemus wrote:
Jvaughn wrote:
nonemus wrote:LBJ
Howard/Wade
Kobe
Durant
Williams/Paul/Nash
Dirk
Amare
Rose/Melo

How are Williams/Paul/Nash/Amare/Melo not all easily below Rose?

Williams: 20/4/10, 3.2 TOV, 58% TS
Nash: 17/4/12, 3.4 TOV, 62% TS
Paul: 16/4/10, 2.3 TOV, 59% TS
Amare: 26/8/3, 3.4 TOV, 58% TS
Melo: 26/8/3, 2.9 TOV, 55% TS

Rose: 23/4/8, 3.4 TOV, 54% TS

So basically TS%?

JordansBulls · Post #60 » by **JordansBulls** » Wed Mar 9, 2011 4:55 pm

KB8MVP wrote:Dwight
LeBron
Kobe/Wade
Wade/Kobe
Durant
Deron
Dirk
Nash
Paul
Rose

I don't think Nash has been better than Rose this year.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... 01&y2=2011