Greg Oden

[bobcats3wallace]

i agree with doc on this one... gambling on oden would be a risk that is too great. if we missed on oden it could set us back another few years. even with his injury history i still think he wouldnt be cheap. unless his contract is set up so that the team has a team option after 1 year then i wouldnt even consider him. just way too risky. plus, i dont think the upside is worth the gamble. even when healthy he hasnt shown the skills to warrant his hype.

Even if it was a 1 year 3 million dollar deal? Or even a 2 year 6 million dollar deal?

[fatlever]

i agree with doc on this one... gambling on oden would be a risk that is too great. if we missed on oden it could set us back another few years. even with his injury history i still think he wouldnt be cheap. unless his contract is set up so that the team has a team option after 1 year then i wouldnt even consider him. just way too risky. plus, i dont think the upside is worth the gamble. even when healthy he hasnt shown the skills to warrant his hype.

Even if it was a 1 year 3 million dollar deal? Or even a 2 year 6 million dollar deal?

ok sure... if we can sign oden for 1/3 or 2/6, go for it. i just seriously doubt he will sign for that cheap.

[SteveMorrison15]

Kwame, Livingston, Morrison, May, and now Oden? Hasn't it apparent that Lottery Picks and Charlotte don't mix? Besides...6 mil for Oden? It's a gamble anyway you look at it and in the end all we would look like a million bucks if we got Oden healthy for 1 season. But we're trying to contend for the Playoffs not win Executive of the Year.

[JMAC3]

alright lets just lose on purpose the next 3 years be top 5 lottery picks each year and not sign anybody at all and hope we get the Miami Heat. We have to get a center and there isnt any good ones in draft and Hawes is not even starter quality.

[bobcats3wallace]

i agree with doc on this one... gambling on oden would be a risk that is too great. if we missed on oden it could set us back another few years. even with his injury history i still think he wouldnt be cheap. unless his contract is set up so that the team has a team option after 1 year then i wouldnt even consider him. just way too risky. plus, i dont think the upside is worth the gamble. even when healthy he hasnt shown the skills to warrant his hype.

Even if it was a 1 year 3 million dollar deal? Or even a 2 year 6 million dollar deal?

ok sure... if we can sign oden for 1/3 or 2/6, go for it. i just seriously doubt he will sign for that cheap.

Yeah, who knows what his price is. The mand has skill, but i'm just not convinced there will be teams just throwing money at him. If I'm Oden, and i truly believe in myself, I would sign a 1 year contract to proove myself and then go after the big money, which is why i brought up the 1 year 3 million dollar type contract.

[doc.end]

I will take my responds to The Future of Bobcats thread.

[dmutombo321]

We have to get a center and there isnt any good ones in draft and Hawes is not even starter quality.

Everyone needs to adjust their expectations because unless Kanter or the other Euro center somehow slip to us, we're going to need to address it through FA.

Hawes isnt going to blow anyone's socks off but he has already demonstrated an ability to be a servicable starter in Sac with about 11-12 pts 7-8 rebounds and 1-2 blocks. His numbers are underwhelimg in Philly because although they start him every game, they play small ball and he only sees 20 mins per night.

If he would cost more than $4-5mil per year, I wouldnt want any part of him. But If he can be had in the right price range, thats not bad at all for a 7'1 250 lb big man drafted int he top 10 who is still only 22 yo.

It might be a moot point because some team may overpay for him. If you look around the league right now, teams like NY (starting Turiaf), MIA (Dampier), HOU (Hayes) would all love to have Hawes. But we arent better off at the 5 spot overselves with only Kwame who we may lose to a higher bidder in FA.

If we roll the dice on Oden (which is a gamble I would be unwilling to take) and he goes down again, we'd then have he and Diop collectively eating up $10-14 mil a year with nothing to show for it.

[W_HAMILTON]

alright lets just lose on purpose the next 3 years be top 5 lottery picks each year and not sign anybody at all and hope we get the Miami Heat.

Sadly, I think that is just the type of rebuilding plan most around here support.

[Rich4114]

alright lets just lose on purpose the next 3 years be top 5 lottery picks each year and not sign anybody at all and hope we get the Miami Heat.

Sadly, I think that is just the type of rebuilding plan most around here support.

I'm more like, let's lose on purpose this year since we virtually have no chance at not getting completely owned in the playoffs and see where we're at next year (assuming there is a next year with no lockout).

Who is to say we don't swing a deal for CP3? CP3 = we'd be trying from there on out.

[W_HAMILTON]

If Paul can't do anything with the players he has around him now, what the hell is he going to do with Dante Cunningham? Yeah, it was a nice idea to get Paul when we had some talent we could surround him with, but what are we going to do with him now? We only have about four "good" players as it is, and we'd probably have to give up at least two of them to get Paul. If our team last year had no hope of winning anything, neither is a Paul/Henderson/Thomas team, either.

[Marvel]

Why the F would CP wanna come here.

[JMAC3]

Paul needs shooters around him and we have none of those. I think DJ could be a really good point guard if we got some people who run the floor and can shoot the three. He could be a 10 assist type guy. Hendo is a good defensive SG and has a nice midrange he can average 16 pts a game pretty easily. If we could just get a starting SF in the draft who is athletic and can shoot. Thomas at the Power
Forward. Throw in Oden at Center and thats a pretty good lineup both offensive and defensive. Problem is that we prolly do something stupid like trade both of our first rounders for a top five pick. We need as much young talent as possible and Oden fits that need. We need a center and Oden fits that need. I just think we could get him for about 6 million a year. I would rather do that than sign Kwame to a 4 million contract and a roster filler combining for 6 million. I mean the key in the NBA is to have three above average players with decent two starters. With scoring and size off the bench.

[Diop]

If we sign Kwame to $4 mill a year, I would be pissed!

[captaincrunk]

If we sign Kwame to $4 mill a year, I would be pissed!

I'd do 4 million over 2 years.

[moevil]

If we sign Kwame to $4 mill a year, I would be pissed!

I'd do 4 million over 2 years.

No.

Veteran minimum is the maximum amount I would sign him for. His hands ARE AWFUL!

[captaincrunk]

If we sign Kwame to $4 mill a year, I would be pissed!

I'd do 4 million over 2 years.

No.

Veteran minimum is the maximum amount I would sign him for. His hands ARE AWFUL!

Rondo's 3 ball is AWFUL but that doesn't mean he can't play basketball. He's not being signed for his hands.

[doc.end]

If we sign Kwame to $4 mill a year, I would be pissed!

I'd do 4 million over 2 years.

No.

Veteran minimum is the maximum amount I would sign him for. His hands ARE AWFUL!

I though few days ago he is ideal for tanking and developing young players approach. He does everything right offensively, places himself on right places on right time, he just doesn't convert that into points (with a bit help of his inept free throw shooting). So we can develop other positions around him, let players learn plays, how to feed big man properly with the luxury not getting better too much too soon by winning a bit too many games. Like play he right way, outplay the opponent and then just didn't score. Gana could help with that too, except he can't even catch the ball sometimes.

Well ok, I am teasing you playoffs über all guys a bit here, but I would bring Kwame back for sure. I would bring anyone with a cap of 25M per year (with new CBA rules, that would be more than it is now- most probably). Develop prosspects at center, hope for a rare find/good pick and if that failes (like at least this draft is not center heavy) fill it with FA, trade once we would be ready to compete. Let Gana's contract epire meanwhile.