Why don't we talk about Kleiza anymore?

Post #21 » by **FluLikeSymptoms** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:52 am

Kleiza has become his contract. He's Lemon Murray.

dballislife · Post #22 » by **dballislife** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:52 am

i wouldnt be pissed off with a jj/linas combo at the 3 next year...better if it comes with a irving or rubio, if we manage to get barnes or perry...it be hard to move a linas contract anyways lol we stuck with the guy

Post #23 » by **DG88** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:53 am

Had season ending surgery and will be out for next season as well

mowcrowbar · Post #24 » by **mowcrowbar** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:07 am

He is our best post up player. We just need to make him only focus on that. Dont let him dribble, and only let him occasionally shoot.

Bankai · Post #25 » by **Bankai** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:15 am

mowcrowbar wrote:He is our best post up player. We just need to make him only focus on that. Dont let him dribble, and only let him occasionally shoot.

Arguably he is, and sometimes this fact makes me want to commit suicide for supporting such a team with this sad bunch of "Big Men".

Black Milk · Post #26 » by **Black Milk** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:00 am

CreaM wrote:18/6 next year, book it!

Lol Cream

J-Roc · Post #27 » by **J-Roc** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:06 am

Resident experts around here tell us BC signed Kleiza for the explicit purpose of tanking. (ie. Q: why did he sign Kleiza? A: we're not planning to compete for a few years and we want low draft picks).

So really, he's inconsequential.

theonlyeastcoastrapsfan · Post #28 » by **theonlyeastcoastrapsfan** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:15 am

I wonder if there wasn't more to that report from Europe where Klieza faulted Raps medical staff for not taking his concerns more serioulsy, as he hasn't been around the team at all. He refuted the report, and we haven't heard from him since.

ronleroy · Post #29 » by **ronleroy** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:58 am

completely forgot about him, but then again, i wish we could forget about 90% of this terrible team.

TheAlchemist · Post #30 » by **TheAlchemist** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:11 pm

theonlyeastcoastrapsfan wrote:I wonder if there wasn't more to that report from Europe where Klieza faulted Raps medical staff for not taking his concerns more serioulsy, as he hasn't been around the team at all. He refuted the report, and we haven't heard from him since.

Pretty pathetic on how we find ourselves in these injury/insurance situations with so many players. Bryan really has some work to do with the medical staff. Reggies foot, Barbosa not getting surgery, Calderons infamous hamstring, are nagging injuries that should've been adressed a lot earlier. Don't really see the trainers having a good impact on the groups health.

DGW · Post #31 » by **DGW** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:17 pm

Kleiza outplayed Childress in Europe and Childress is doing decent for Phoenix. Kleiza's been injured since our first pre-season game, the one where he owned the Suns...so I'm hoping good things from him next year.

plainballing · Post #32 » by **plainballing** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:18 pm

darth_federer wrote:1) He had microfracture surgery and will be out for a year

2) He sucks

Inb4 666

Right there, BB thread...come on!

Comeatme_Bro · Post #33 » by **Comeatme_Bro** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:19 pm

I REALLY REALLY hope he's not starting for us next season :pray:

. I don't mind him as a bench player but no way is he a starter in this league.

666 · Post #34 » by **666** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:20 pm

darth_federer wrote:1) He had microfracture surgery and will be out for a year

Inb4 666

Zing

666 · Post #35 » by **666** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:29 pm

The reality is that Kleiza got injured in the pre-season. The injury was aggravated throughout the year. So if you're evaluating Linas on his 2011-2012 performance, then you're essentially judging an athlete who was not playing at full health.

And yes, Kleiza had microfracture surgery, which is one of the most serious operations for NBA players. He probably will miss all of 2011 next year... probably will be good to go in January/February. Give props to Kleiza for playing hurt though.

A lot of you guys overly criticize Kleiza. Even if you judge hin through playing hurt, I think a change of scenery would benefit Linas. Toronto's offense system is too dependent on 1-on-1 basketball. There's no ball movement whatsoever. Kleiza is not a playmaker and that is a weakness of his. In Toronto he tries to be a playmaker though. I think he would fit better on a team like Utah or so forth... a team that moves the ball and where he can get his offense off screens. Him being a back-up on a contending team > going nowhere on a 20-53 future-less Raptors.

Reignman · Post #36 » by **Reignman** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:42 pm

I wanted to give Kleiza his shot back when we signed him and thought he could be a nice bench player for us moving forward but in hindsight, this turned out to be a wasted signing for us.

Not because he got injured but because his style just seems out of place with this roster. We're moving into more of an athletic lineup with two way potential and Kleiza is more of a plodding SF who likes to post up in the halfcourt.

Luckily his contract isn't too big or too long to be a burden and who knows, maybe he carves out a niche on this team next year.

If we draft a SF though then he might just be the odd man out with James Johnson looking like a decent bench prospect.

J-Roc · Post #37 » by **J-Roc** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:46 pm

Our joker of a GM signed Kleiza to be the #1 scorer, to take pressure off of Bargnani. As it turned out, Bargs was more than capable of being the #1 scorer, and Kleiza suddenly had no role on the team. He didn't sign here to be a fringe player. Or a spot up shooter, or a playmaker. He thought he'd have his own NBA team, no different than him being "the man" on his national team.

Reignman · Post #38 » by **Reignman** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:49 pm

J-Roc wrote:Our joker of a GM signed Kleiza to be the #1 scorer, to take pressure off of Bargnani. As it turned out, Bargs was more than capable of being the #1 scorer, and Kleiza suddenly had no role on the team. He didn't sign here to be a fringe player. Or a spot up shooter, or a playmaker. He thought he'd have his own NBA team, no different than him being "the man" on his national team.

If Kleiza thought he was going to be "the man" on this team then he's on crack.

If you think BC brought Kleiza to be "the man" on this team then you are on crack.

Basketball_Jones · Post #39 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:52 pm

I still think he can be useful in his Denver role here on this team. The fact is, shooting at the 3 spot is sorely lacking. He'll be needed. I did find it amusing how motivated he came to play against Denver and what a game he had in comparison to the stinkers he put up before. It's amazing how NBA players need motivation to go out and play well on a night to night basis.

bigdirty · Post #40 » by **bigdirty** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:55 pm

Reignman wrote:
J-Roc wrote:Our joker of a GM signed Kleiza to be the #1 scorer, to take pressure off of Bargnani. As it turned out, Bargs was more than capable of being the #1 scorer, and Kleiza suddenly had no role on the team. He didn't sign here to be a fringe player. Or a spot up shooter, or a playmaker. He thought he'd have his own NBA team, no different than him being "the man" on his national team.

If Kleiza thought he was going to be "the man" on this team then he's on crack.

If you think BC brought Kleiza to be "the man" on this team then you are on crack.

I definitely got the feeling BC thought Kleiza could at least be 2nd option on the Raptors. There were many posters saying he could be a 15ppg scorer on our team.