Jerry: Trading The Pick Is a Possibilty

[SacKingZZZ]

Very good questions and very satisfying and insightful answers. I haven't kept up with college ball this year, so Jerry's comment on this draft being one of the worst in the last 10-15 years scares me. On the other hand, Petrie is great at drafting players. I'd be open to a trade depending on where we land.

Won't be as good up top as last year, but they've been saying the same thing for awhile. Like I said, if we were looking for a #1 type and nothing else I'd be worried, but finding that 3rd wheel "star" type should be easy unless 3-4 of the bigger names stay in school.

[wanker]

How about the great Andrea Bargnani for your pick?

[Shantz]

How about the great Andrea Bargnani for your pick?

There needs to be at least some rational for this type of move...and Bargnani straight up for a top 5 pick would not be equal value for the Kings. As a Raps fan though, I do think that Sacramento and Toronto could work out a good trade that works for the two teams.

Toronto Trades: Bargnani + Bayless + future second round pick

Sacramento Trades: 2011 First Round pick (unprotected) + Thompson + Garcia (or Udrih?)

Why for Toronto:

The real value of course for the Raptors is in the draft pick, but adding Thompson would bring a big back in order to fill out the front court rotation. Based on what I have been reading from Sacramento (blogs and message boards), Thompson seems expendable for them. Garcia (or Udrih) would be taken in the deal to take a less then ideal contract off of Sacramento's hands.

Why for Sacramento:

Bargnani certainly has his weaknesses, but he also has a lot of strengths that he does bring to a team. And if paired with the right front court partner he could really be a benefit. Cousins and Bargnani could be a huge front-court with a lot of potential. Cousins would be free to operate in the paint while leaving Bargnani as a floor spacer to drain open shots. Cousins has the rebounding to make-up for that deficiency in Bargnani, and Bargs could be a better defender against PF as opposed to the Centers he has to guard now who overpower him

Bayless also provides Sacramento with a young PG who is a good shooter, but tends to over dribble. With Tyreke being the primary ball handler for the Kings, this would allow Bayless to play a role similar to Barbosa (but with capable defense).


Thoughts? Any changes that could be made to make it more fair for the two sides?

[KF10]

Bargnani isn't worth an unprotected pick from the Kings. Period.

[Tommy Udo 6]

you think Chicago would part with him? They are pretty solid and I am not sure they are ready to downgrade talent.

Let's put it this way: the Bulls dont want to trade Deng. He's their best defender & is constantly assigned the task of guarding other teams' top scorer. He plays over 44 minutes per night - among the top 5 in the NBA. The coach relies on him a lot.

However, if the new CBA imposes a hard cap or other restrictions, the Bulls may have to move him. Noah was just extended & the Bulls intend to extend Rose at the maximum possible.

If the Bulls are forced to move someone, it will either be Deng or Boozer

[ballislife]

How about the great Andrea Bargnani for your pick?

There needs to be at least some rational for this type of move...and Bargnani straight up for a top 5 pick would not be equal value for the Kings. As a Raps fan though, I do think that Sacramento and Toronto could work out a good trade that works for the two teams.

Toronto Trades: Bargnani + Bayless + future second round pick

Sacramento Trades: 2011 First Round pick (unprotected) + Thompson + Garcia (or Udrih?)

Why for Toronto:

The real value of course for the Raptors is in the draft pick, but adding Thompson would bring a big back in order to fill out the front court rotation. Based on what I have been reading from Sacramento (blogs and message boards), Thompson seems expendable for them. Garcia (or Udrih) would be taken in the deal to take a less then ideal contract off of Sacramento's hands.

Why for Sacramento:

Bargnani certainly has his weaknesses, but he also has a lot of strengths that he does bring to a team. And if paired with the right front court partner he could really be a benefit. Cousins and Bargnani could be a huge front-court with a lot of potential. Cousins would be free to operate in the paint while leaving Bargnani as a floor spacer to drain open shots. Cousins has the rebounding to make-up for that deficiency in Bargnani, and Bargs could be a better defender against PF as opposed to the Centers he has to guard now who overpower him

Bayless also provides Sacramento with a young PG who is a good shooter, but tends to over dribble. With Tyreke being the primary ball handler for the Kings, this would allow Bayless to play a role similar to Barbosa (but with capable defense).


Thoughts? Any changes that could be made to make it more fair for the two sides?

I would definitely offer Bargnani + Bayless + 2nd rounder or Soloman Alabi for #5/#6 + Garcia + Udrih. It could work out well for both sides.

[Winsome Gerbil]

with Evans, Thonrton and Cousins all capable of/wanting to score 20ppg I don't think there is much room for another big scorer regardless of whether he comes in as a rookie or is a guy like Granger. The shots are pretty much all accounted for. I could see that pick being traded, but not for another big scorer. Maybe more for a great roleplayer.

[The Beam King]

Granger is the only realistic target using our pick for. Even then, that's a long shot on both accounts.

[Bac2Basics]

On the trade board, this seemed to get a good response from Pacer fans

Kings pick, Thompson & Greene
for
Pacers pick, Granger

[The Beam King]

On the trade board, this seemed to get a good response from Pacer fans

Kings pick, Thompson & Greene
for
Pacers pick, Granger

I like this idea and think Granger would be a great fit at the 3 and even the 4 if we went small-ball at times. However, I think Omri might be 'our odd man out' with Donte staying. In which case, I dunno if Thompson would go out then.

I like the idea of picking up another great shooter around the middle of the first round. Jimmer is obviously a great fit, but so is Alec Burks and maybe Jordan Hamilton.

Let's say Jimmer is there at #15. We take him with the Pacers pick.

In the 2nd round we could look towards a heady stretch 4 like Kyle Singler to fill out the frontcourt.

Our new roster would be:

C: Dalembert, Whiteside
PF: Cousins, Thompson, Siingler
SF: Granger, Garcia, Greene
SG: Thornton, Jimmer, Taylor
PG: Tyreke, Beno, Jeter

[Bac2Basics]

^^
You've got Thompson still on the depth chart there.......

And this brings me to the one thing that I wasn't thinking about, I think that if the Kings make that deal, it would be smart to swing the Pacers pick for another PF as after trading Landry and Thompson, the Kings would basically be without a PF (wasn't thinking about that when I initially did it)

[LeBron's Time]

i wont trade kings top 5 pick for granger. granger isn't as good as before, theres a reason why pacers fans wants him to be traded for a lottery pick. pacers fans wants kings lottery pick over granger, so em I. this year draft isn't deep, #15 pick is nothing special and we also need thompson. cousins delambert and thompson thats the kings 3 bigman rotation (dont forget...dmc always in foul trouble).

[Bac2Basics]

i wont trade kings top 5 pick for granger. granger isn't as good as before, theres a reason why pacers fans wants him to be traded for a lottery pick. pacers fans wants kings lottery pick over granger, so em I. this year draft isn't deep, #15 pick is nothing special and we also need thompson. cousins delambert and thompson thats the kings 3 bigman rotation (dont forget...dmc always in foul trouble).

Is there a player that you'd trade the top 5 pick for that the other team would consider?

[LeBron's Time]

No i wont trade. im high on kings lottery pick especially geof petrie is so good in drafting rookie(lottery). just get veteran player in free agent market (we have cap space). this team is very promising even its a young team.

sullinger and barnes are not entering the draft maybe knight too because of nba lockout but im still high on our pick, i trust GP

[darkadun]

Dunno. If we crack top 4 I tend to think we keep the pick. I'd love Derrick Williams or Kyrie. But outside of that I'd be willing to trade it. Especially if we keep Thornton and Dalembert. Some mocks have us taking Kemba, which is fine. But if we keep Thornton we don't need Kemba also. That just wouldn't work IMO.

[OGSactownballer]

If they keep the pick at this point then it would make sense to pick one of the big Euros that can stretch the floor at the 4 on offense and bang on "D". It is what we would be missing going forward and that way we can home grow a guy instead of overpaying.

[jumpboi92]

If we have the 6th or less pick and Derrick Williams or Kyrie isnt available, why dont we do:
Kings: J-Smoove & their 1st
Hawks: Our 1st & Casspi

I like Casspi's potential but we have to give to receive

2011-2012 Rotation:
PG: Reke, Beno, Hawks' Pick
SG: Thornton, Garcia
SF: Smith, Greene
PF: DMC, JT
C: Sammy, Whiteside

[pillwenney]

I like Williams, but not so much for this team. We don't need another main scoring option. Evans/Thornton/Cousins is fine. We need, if anything, a real floor general and experience.

[Nicky Nix Nook]

I don't want Josh Smith because 1) he can't shoot from outside and 2) he is not really a veteran leader. He's got attitude problems himself, which with this team, would be a bad mixture.

[sackings916]

I like what Josh Smith would bring as a PF next to Cousins. He can cover Cousins weaknesses with his shotblocking and athleticism. Offensively he's a good passer and will always have the quickness advantage at the 4 spot. Start Cousins and Smith up front, bring Dalembert back as the 3rd big as he would give us a different look with someone who can protect the rim along with Smith.