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The Future of the Bobcats

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Re: The Future of the Bobcats 

Post#341 » by bobcats3wallace » Mon May 16, 2011 1:12 am

BigSlam wrote:You know that Diop wont see the court until the start of 2012 b3w?


Haha, well no I did not know that! The injury was really that bad? If he's going to be out that long I'm surprised the question of whether he will ever be able to play again hasn't come up. So do you mean the start of the 2012 season, or after new years? It really is too bad he got hurt man. I was really liking what he was showing out there.
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Re: The Future of the Bobcats 

Post#342 » by Snidely FC » Mon May 16, 2011 1:44 am

Aaron Gray is also a free agent and should be available for less than Kwame; enjoyed watching him play v. LA, though he's not from Europe just California.
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Re: The Future of the Bobcats 

Post#343 » by captaincrunk » Mon May 16, 2011 3:32 am

Moar bigs!
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Re: The Future of the Bobcats 

Post#344 » by Bassman » Mon May 16, 2011 1:51 pm

Snidely FC wrote:Draft a Euro Center at 9? I'd rather:

sign free agent . . .

Hamed Haddadi: 7'2" 265 25yo 2.4ppg 2.2 rbg in 5mpg 19.78 PER
guy is slow slow slow but awesome rebounder and efficient scorer can be had for 1mln/ the next Marcin Gortat? the Iranian Reaper? plus fun "who's your" haddadi jokes.

Kyrylo Fesenko: 7'1" 280 24yo
Hollinger says: "Fesenko can help the right team for one single reason: The dude is huge."
and according to basketballvalue.com, "Utah gives up 97.53 points per 100 possessions when he's on the floor … and 109.78 when he isn't." That's huge D upside for prob 1mln/

or, how about drafting:

Giorgi Shirmondini in Rd 2? 7'1" 250 22yo
Guy was gonna be a top 10 pick in 2008 at age 19 (Jonas anyone?) . . . he's now a whopping 22 years old and available unguaranteed in rd 2.


Really don't like Haddadi, and Fesenko is not the kind of player they want on this team as Silas wants to increase the tempo and execute fast breaks. Better figure out why a 7'1" kid is only projected as the 67th best player in a weak draft before you snatch him in the 2nd, but I understand the idea of taking a flyer there.
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Re: The Future of the Bobcats 

Post#345 » by Jaruff » Mon May 16, 2011 6:43 pm

If Paul really wants uptempo (yey!), we're fine with what we have.

PF: Diaw/Thomas/White
C: Brown/Diaw

There's also Cunningham who would be better suited at PF in a fast system. We need a center but we're not going to find what we need through this draft unless we can grab Kanter or take a risk on Jonas/Montie/Bismack. We need to make decisions:

Which position does Cunningham play going forward? Do we even bring him back?
Do you consider moving Tyrus Thomas to SF? Can he handle the position? Do you move him to keep him healthy (Gerald Wallace).
Do we bring Kwame back? If not, then we obviously have to address center in the draft. If we do, we can address more pressing needs with our first-round selections.
Are we set on DJ/Hendo/Tyrus going forward?

I still think the back-court is the most pressing need. Livy showed signs of light but he's banged up a lot. He didn't live up to expectations last season. I don't think Matt can handle the chucker role every game. I'm not concerned about our defense but I would like for us to score more than 94 ppg next season.
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Re: The Future of the Bobcats 

Post#346 » by doc.end » Mon May 16, 2011 9:15 pm

Gray as Kwame backup is an idea I like. And keep throwin D-leaguers and other guys at them till we find a diamond in a rough. If not, no big deal we are rebuilding,.
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Re: The Future of the Bobcats 

Post#347 » by Snidely FC » Tue May 17, 2011 12:06 pm

yes. i'm not saying i think gray, or esp haddadi or fesenko are great, but that theyre just right for us right now. cheap huge bodies with potential upside - 24/25 is still young for a C - and cheap (again). plug em in for a year if they dont work helps us with better draft position in 12-13; meanwhile we save capspace/rosterspace (as opposed to 4 yr oblig. rookie contract) to target transformational player
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Post#348 » by Elden Payton » Sun May 22, 2011 4:18 am

I'm keen to hear what you guys think of these guys as big options, what would you sign them for or trade for them? I think that they haven't shown much but their upside is still in tact, they are servicable & could be had for cheap imo.

-Mareese Speights
-Brandon Wright
-Jason Thompson
-Darell Arthur
-Daniel Orton
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Re: The Future of the Bobcats 

Post#349 » by BigSlam » Sun May 22, 2011 4:38 am

Sik Infant wrote:I'm keen to hear what you guys think of these guys as big options, what would you sign them for or trade for them? I think that they haven't shown much but their upside is still in tact, they are servicable & could be had for cheap imo.

-Mareese Speights
-Brandon Wright
-Jason Thompson
-Darell Arthur
-Daniel Orton

The only one on your list that I would have any interest in at all is Thompson - and even then it would be extremely limited.
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Re: The Future of the Bobcats 

Post#350 » by SWedd523 » Sun May 22, 2011 6:27 am

I'd take a long look at Arthur. He's been playing some solid ball this year. Really fills that Taj Gibson role well.
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Post#351 » by Elden Payton » Sun May 22, 2011 8:38 am

I totally agree SWEDD, I like the idea of getting undervalued players that have been in the system a while but for whatever reason it has failed to work out. These young 'vets' could really help our team & would improve chemistry as they will know that they are on a team that wants them & have a real opportunity to crack the rotation.
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Re: The Future of the Bobcats 

Post#352 » by Elden Payton » Sun May 22, 2011 9:26 am

Here's a list of the top D-League players, I would love to take a flyer on a few of these.

http://www.draftexpress.com/rankings/D- ... z1CBWsD7Bt

Jeff adrien
Marcus Cousin
Kyle Weaver(I know we've given up on him before)
Joe Alexander(former top 10 pick)
Tiny Gallon(If he gets in shape)
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Re: The Future of the Bobcats 

Post#353 » by Marvel » Wed Jun 1, 2011 11:02 pm

Any interest in James Johnson round here. I think dude is a fine player, definitely starting caliber, but just never got any consistent minutes in Chicago for some reason. Anyone know why he wasn't getting any minutes in Chicago? Does he have weight issues, too lazy...he reminds me of a younger Boris Diaw, could he be what Diaw could've been, or is he likely heading down the same path?
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Re: The Future of the Bobcats 

Post#354 » by Snidely FC » Thu Jun 2, 2011 2:18 am

Scuttlebutt in Chi was that he was too mistake prone for Thibs intense demand for perfection. Could do goofball stuff lots of mental errors.
In the 25 games he started for the Raptors at small forward, he averaged 9.2 points per game on 46% shooting.
Great size for SF will be good rebounder/shot blocker at that position.
I like James Johnson but so do the Raptors I think they're planning on him being their starting SF next season.
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Re: The Future of the Bobcats 

Post#355 » by Marvel » Thu Jun 2, 2011 2:25 am

^Ok thanks, and yeah if the Raps are smart they'd keep him, bring that overrated Kleiza off the bench where he belongs.

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