2011 DRAFT blather goes here. Part 3...

Dark Faze · Post #141 » by **Dark Faze** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:06 am

CAN WE TRADE UP?!

Wolves have incentive.

dobrojim · Post #142 » by **dobrojim** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:07 am

closg00 wrote:Check-out DX's new wacky mock, they have Kanter dropping to 8 and us taking Vesely.
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2011/

I just saw that. Kinda surprising. You have to wonder what their
experts know (or think they know) that us RealGM experts don't know.

dobrojim · Post #143 » by **dobrojim** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:08 am

Dark Faze wrote:CAN WE TRADE UP?!

Wolves have incentive.

Plus do they really need DWill as was postulated earlier
by Nate or someone...

TGW · Post #144 » by **TGW** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:10 am

There's no way Minny is trading down for vastly inferior talent after #4. Forget it.

pcbothwel · Post #145 » by **pcbothwel** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:12 am

JV, Biyombo, or Leonard would not disappoint me. I was pissed when I first saw we dropped, but after 5 minutes its easy to see why #6 could easily give us the best player in this draft.

Post #146 » by **LyricalRico** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:12 am

TGW wrote:There's no way Minny is trading down for vastly inferior talent after #4. Forget it.

Agreed. Williams is better than Beasley or Wes Johnson IMO, so I would think Minny would take DWill and run. Then they can shop Beasley+Johnson for a big.

Post #147 » by **miller31time** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:13 am

Top-8 Predictions

1. Cleveland - Kryie Irving (Duke)
2. Minnesota - Derrick Williams (Arizona)
3. Utah - Kemba Walker (Uconn)
4. Cleveland - Enes Kanter (Kentucky)
5. Toronto - Brandon Knight (Kentucky)
6. Washington - Jan Vesely (godonlyknows)
7. Sacramento - Donatas Motiejunas (international)
8. Detroit - Bismack Biyombo (international)

dobrojim · Post #148 » by **dobrojim** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:16 am

miller31time wrote:Top-8 Predictions

1. Cleveland - Kryie Irving (Duke)
2. Minnesota - Derrick Williams (Arizona)
3. Utah - Kemba Walker (Uconn)
4. Cleveland - Enes Kanter (Kentucky)
5. Toronto - Brandon Knight (Kentucky)
6. Washington - Jan Vesely (godonlyknows)
7. Sacramento - Donatas Motiejunas (international)
8. Detroit - Bismack Biyombo (international)

you missed an obvious...UT will take a white guy if
it's even close. Betcha they draft a euro. Or Jimmer.

Jay81 · Post #149 » by **Jay81** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:18 am

the one good thing is that Blake Griffen will be so pissed off about what happened to the Clippers pick that he will not resign with a team that has no desire to win..

hello Washington

pancakes3 · Post #150 » by **pancakes3** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:19 am

meh, i think one of biyombo or kanter will be available at 6, singleton at 18, and jordan williams with the 2nd pick. that's a B+ draft right there.

of course the wiz almost never draft who i have draft crushes on so... i'm fully expecting to be disappointed. passing on dejuan blair was the last straw. i've spent every draft day since getting drunk and avoiding TV's and it landed us Johnny Wall.

Post #151 » by **LyricalRico** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:19 am

miller31time wrote:Top-8 Predictions

1. Cleveland - Kryie Irving (Duke)
2. Minnesota - Derrick Williams (Arizona)
3. Utah - Kemba Walker (Uconn)
4. Cleveland - Enes Kanter (Kentucky)
5. Toronto - Brandon Knight (Kentucky)
6. Washington - Jan Vesely (godonlyknows)
7. Sacramento - Donatas Motiejunas (international)
8. Detroit - Bismack Biyombo (international)

What if, already having Sideshow and Hickson, the Cavs throw a curve and take DWill #1 since Knight will definitely be there at #4? If they can move BDiddy and/or Jamison for an overpriced but productive SG they could be pretty interesting next year IMO.

Verajao
Hickson
Williams
???
Knight

Post #152 » by **miller31time** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:19 am

dobrojim wrote:
miller31time wrote:Top-8 Predictions

1. Cleveland - Kryie Irving (Duke)
2. Minnesota - Derrick Williams (Arizona)
3. Utah - Kemba Walker (Uconn)
4. Cleveland - Enes Kanter (Kentucky)
5. Toronto - Brandon Knight (Kentucky)
6. Washington - Jan Vesely (godonlyknows)
7. Sacramento - Donatas Motiejunas (international)
8. Detroit - Bismack Biyombo (international)

you missed an obvious...UT will take a white guy if
it's even close. Betcha they draft a euro. Or Jimmer.

With a 5-8 pick, sure, but not with a top-3 selection. If they needed a center, I could see them taking Kanter but they already have a strong bigman rotation with Favors, Jefferson, Millsap and Okur. They won't take Kanter. And at that point, why would they draft Motiejunas or Vesely or any other Euro? Jimmer is not even close to a top-3 pick, white skin or not.

Post #153 » by **miller31time** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:20 am

LyricalRico wrote:
miller31time wrote:Top-8 Predictions

1. Cleveland - Kryie Irving (Duke)
2. Minnesota - Derrick Williams (Arizona)
3. Utah - Kemba Walker (Uconn)
4. Cleveland - Enes Kanter (Kentucky)
5. Toronto - Brandon Knight (Kentucky)
6. Washington - Jan Vesely (godonlyknows)
7. Sacramento - Donatas Motiejunas (international)
8. Detroit - Bismack Biyombo (international)

What if, already having Sideshow and Hickson, the Cavs throw a curve and take DWill #1 since Knight will definitely be there at #4? If they can move BDiddy and/or Jamison for an overpriced but productive SG they could be pretty productive next year IMO.

Verajao
Hickson
Williams
???
Knight

I can't see that happening because Irving is a more sure thing than Williams, IMO. And with a franchise as desperate for a sure thing, they can't afford anyone else.

dobrojim · Post #154 » by **dobrojim** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:23 am

miller31time wrote:
dobrojim wrote:
miller31time wrote:Top-8 Predictions

1. Cleveland - Kryie Irving (Duke)
2. Minnesota - Derrick Williams (Arizona)
3. Utah - Kemba Walker (Uconn)
4. Cleveland - Enes Kanter (Kentucky)
5. Toronto - Brandon Knight (Kentucky)
6. Washington - Jan Vesely (godonlyknows)
7. Sacramento - Donatas Motiejunas (international)
8. Detroit - Bismack Biyombo (international)

you missed an obvious...UT will take a white guy if
it's even close. Betcha they draft a euro. Or Jimmer.

With a 5-8 pick, sure, but not with a top-3 selection. If they needed a center, I could see them taking Kanter but they already have a strong bigman rotation with Favors, Jefferson, Millsap and Okur. They won't take Kanter. And at that point, why would they draft Motiejunas or Vesely or any other Euro? Jimmer is not even close to a top-3 pick, white skin or not.

you're probably right - I'm grasping at straws and/or being facetious.

Love to see Kanter fall to us. And Singleton/Faried. Those things are
still well within the realm of possibility.

Jay81 · Post #155 » by **Jay81** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:25 am

From Chad Ford

Not sure exactly what Wolves will do at 2 ... Biyombo isn't out of the question ... no joke.

Jay81 · Post #156 » by **Jay81** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:28 am

more chad

I think there's zero suspense at the top. I'm told Cavs love Irving. Suspense begins at 2: Williams, Kanter, Biyombo, trade all possible

TGW · Post #157 » by **TGW** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:31 am

If they want Biyombo, we can trade up then. Give them the #18 and try and nab Kanter or D. Williams.

theboomking · Post #158 » by **theboomking** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:32 am

What would it cost us to move to 2 or 3? Minnesota and Utah have little use for Andray Blatche, so I don't think he has much value. Would Crawford, #6, and #18 get us there? I don't think so.

closg00 · Post #159 » by **closg00** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:34 am

miller31time wrote:
dobrojim wrote:
miller31time wrote:Top-8 Predictions

1. Cleveland - Kryie Irving (Duke)
2. Minnesota - Derrick Williams (Arizona)
3. Utah - Kemba Walker (Uconn)
4. Cleveland - Enes Kanter (Kentucky)
5. Toronto - Brandon Knight (Kentucky)
6. Washington - Jan Vesely (godonlyknows)
7. Sacramento - Donatas Motiejunas (international)
8. Detroit - Bismack Biyombo (international)

you missed an obvious...UT will take a white guy if
it's even close. Betcha they draft a euro. Or Jimmer.

With a 5-8 pick, sure, but not with a top-3 selection. If they needed a center, I could see them taking Kanter but they already have a strong bigman rotation with Favors, Jefferson, Millsap and Okur. They won't take Kanter. And at that point, why would they draft Motiejunas or Vesely or any other Euro? Jimmer is not even close to a top-3 pick, white skin or not.

Utah takes Kanter or Valanciunas, Okur expires next year and Jefferson has 2 years left on his contract.

Dark Faze · Post #160 » by **Dark Faze** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:38 am

I'm willing to go for the nuclear option.

Javale McGee, #6 and #18 for the #2.

Offer 10 million a year for Marc Gasol.

We all know JaVale is never going to be that good anyway.