POLL ADDED: Minny Re-Orders some Wings w/PHI + IND

[Trader_Joe]

Done once cap space is in effect.


Philly:
Iggy
for
Wes Johnson, Pekovic, #20, $5m TPE

Holiday / L.Williams
Turner / Meeks
W.Johnson / #16 / Nocioni
T.Young / Brand / Brackins
Speights / Pekovic / #20

-Allows resigning Thad more feasible
-Gets rid of all non-rookie contracts past next season other than Brand
-In line with the rebuild Thorn alluded to when speaking of Iggy's future


Indy:
Granger, Rush
for
Beasley , AR, Webster, Flynn, $3m Cash

Collison / Flynn / Price
George / D.Jones / Stephenson
Beasley / Webster / Posey
Hansbrough / Randolph
Hibbert / #15
+
#42 Stashed in Europe for roster room

-uses ~$2m of their $20+m in cap and becomes a much deeper team
-A core of young players to continue to grow with, with still ~$20m in cap


Minny
Wes, Beasley, AR, Flynn, Webster, Pekovic, #20, $3m Cash
for
Iggy, Granger, Rush

Rubio / Ridnour
Iggy / Ellington / Rush
Granger / Hayward
Love / Tolliver
Kanter (#2) / Darko

-Other than Miami, arguably the best wing pairing in the game
-Keeps Love, Rubio and #2.



*****
To appease Indy and Philly fans (if they can come to a consensus) the following pieces are basically interchangeable:

W.Johnson and Beasley
Pekovic and Flynn

[Foshan]

Great title, Philly says hell no.

LWill is playing waaaay better than Flynn, is only 2 yrs older, and not paid much more...

Philly wants nothing to do with Beasley. And 'all that money' Philly is saving would have to go into resigning Beasley to a long term deal or we just parted with Iggy for nothing. No thanks.

[john2jer]

Not realistic, but the wolves say hell yes.

[Pacersike]

No thanks.

I don't see Wesley Johnson becoming a better player than Granger.

Nobody in the rest of the package makes it worthwhile to go from proven to unproven.


ps including Stephenson doesn't help either

[Wizop]

try a much smaller Indy deal. what would you give for Rush? Pekovic works for us.

[Trader_Joe]

REVISED based upon comments.


Philly:
Iggy
for
Wes Johnson, Flynn, #20, $5m TPE


Indy:
Granger, Rush
for
Beasley, AR, Webster, Pekovic, Future #2


Minny
Wes, Beasley, AR, Flynn, Webster, Pekovic, #20, F #2
for
Iggy, Granger, Rush


Since Philly wanted to complain about getting Beasley and Indy complained about getting Wes I switched them. And while Beasley isn't exactly Mr. Perfect he seems to have cleaned up his act in Minny and been a quality teammate. L.Williams and Stephenson have also been removed.

[Esohny]

I'd much rather leave Granger alone and make a deal with Philly for Iggy that doesn't include the #2 pick. Then I'd use the #2 through draft or trade to get a starting center.

[eToasT]

I'd much rather leave Granger alone and make a deal with Philly for Iggy that doesn't include the #2 pick. Then I'd use the #2 through draft or trade to get a starting center.

I dont think this trade is proposing we move the #2

I'd rather get Bismack than Kanter with that lineup though

Rubio
Iggy
Granger
Love
Biyombo

now that is a different look than last year

[Swimmer]

I would still easily do this as a Minnesota fan.

[Esohny]

I'd much rather leave Granger alone and make a deal with Philly for Iggy that doesn't include the #2 pick. Then I'd use the #2 through draft or trade to get a starting center.

I dont think this trade is proposing we move the #2

I'd rather get Bismack than Kanter with that lineup though

Rubio
Iggy
Granger
Love
Biyombo

now that is a different look than last year

Yep, I interpreted that as the #2 pick, but he likely meant 2nd rounder. I would certainly do the trade then, since there would still be ammo to get that center.

[BringBackKorver]

Philly:
Iggy
for
Wes Johnson, Flynn, #20, $5m TPE

Swap Flynn for Darko or Pekovic and most Philly fans are okay with this. I'm okay with Beasley in a deal but I think we need a little more in the deal.

An Iguodala / Beasley deal I'd be okay with:

Iguodala, Speights, Brackins for Beasley, Darko, Randolph, #20?

[Pacersike]

The "Future" doesn't need to be in in the revised trade. It is good enough without it.

[Trader_Joe]

Philly:
Iggy
for
Wes Johnson, Flynn, #20, $5m TPE

Swap Flynn for Darko or Pekovic and most Philly fans are okay with this. I'm okay with Beasley in a deal but I think we need a little more in the deal.

An Iguodala / Beasley deal I'd be okay with:

Iguodala, Speights, Brackins for Beasley, Darko, Randolph, #20?

How's this:

Philly:
Iggy
for
Wes Johnson or Beasley, Pekovic, #20, $5m TPE

Holiday / L.Williams
Turner / Meeks
T.Young / #16 / Nocioni
Beasley / Brand / Brackins
Speights / Pekovic / #20


Indy:
Granger, Rush
for
Beasley or Wes, AR, Webster, Flynn, Future #2

Collison / Flynn / Price
George / D.Jones / Stephenson
Beasley / Webster / Posey
Hansbrough / Randolph
Hibbert / #15
+
#42 Stashed in Europe for roster room as they would still have about $20m in cap room


Minny
Wes, Beasley, AR, Flynn, Webster, Pekovic, #20, F #2
for
Iggy, Granger, Rush

Rubio / Ridnour
Iggy / Ellington / Rush
Granger / Hayward
Love / Tolliver
Kanter (#2) / Darko

[BringBackKorver]

I have a feeling we'll be settling for something like that as a return for Iguodala. It's one of those packages that you say "yeah, the value is right, but am I really that excited about it?"

[HartfordWhalers]

I'm probably in the minority, but I would much rather have Flynn then Pekovic. Cheaper. Younger. More potential. Neither played well. But I'm considerable more comfortable with hoping Flynn recovers some value then having Pevokic locked up for another 9.5 million over two years.

(And I'm curious if this trade can change one more time before 3 Pacer fans all chime in with Beasley doesn't fit the attitude the Pacers are crafting post brawl, send him elsewhere complaints.)

[Trader_Joe]

I'm probably in the minority, but I would much rather have Flynn then Pekovic. Cheaper. Younger. More potential. Neither played well. But I'm considerable more comfortable with hoping Flynn recovers some value then having Pevokic locked up for another 9.5 million over two years.

(And I'm curious if this trade can change one more time before 3 Pacer fans all chime in with Beasley doesn't fit the attitude the Pacers are crafting post brawl, send him elsewhere complaints.)

So basically I should say this:

Philly:
Iggy
for
W.Johnson or Beasley
Pekovic or Flynn
#20
$5m TPE


Indy:
Granger, Rush
for
Beasley or W.Johnson
Flynn or Pekovic
AR
Webster
Future #2

And let you guys fight it out?
Overall, I think the value is pretty fair.

[SO_MONEY]

I'd much rather leave Granger alone and make a deal with Philly for Iggy that doesn't include the #2 pick. Then I'd use the #2 through draft or trade to get a starting center.

+1

[Trader_Joe]

I'd much rather leave Granger alone and make a deal with Philly for Iggy that doesn't include the #2 pick. Then I'd use the #2 through draft or trade to get a starting center.

+1

The #2 isn't in here.. it is a future 2nd, but I'm going to remove to avoid confusion.

[HartfordWhalers]

Maybe to cover all bases, best to include it as the following:

I'm probably in the minority, but I would much rather have Flynn then Pekovic. Cheaper. Younger. More potential. Neither played well. But I'm considerable more comfortable with hoping Flynn recovers some value then having Pevokic locked up for another 9.5 million over two years.

(And I'm curious if this trade can change one more time before 3 Pacer fans all chime in with Beasley doesn't fit the attitude the Pacers are crafting post brawl, send him elsewhere complaints.)

So basically I should say this:

Philly:
Iggy or Turner and Brackins
for
W.Johnson or Beasley
Pekovic or Flynn
#20
$5m TPE


Indy:
Granger, Rush or George and Hansbrough
for
Beasley or W.Johnson
Flynn or Pekovic
AR
Webster
Future #2

And let you guys fight it out?
Overall, I think the value is pretty fair.

[Trader_Joe]

Maybe to cover all bases, best to include it as the following:

I'm probably in the minority, but I would much rather have Flynn then Pekovic. Cheaper. Younger. More potential. Neither played well. But I'm considerable more comfortable with hoping Flynn recovers some value then having Pevokic locked up for another 9.5 million over two years.

(And I'm curious if this trade can change one more time before 3 Pacer fans all chime in with Beasley doesn't fit the attitude the Pacers are crafting post brawl, send him elsewhere complaints.)

So basically I should say this:

Philly:
Iggy or Turner and Brackins
for
W.Johnson or Beasley
Pekovic or Flynn
#20
$5m TPE


Indy:
Granger, Rush or George and Hansbrough
for
Beasley or W.Johnson
Flynn or Pekovic
AR
Webster
Future #2

And let you guys fight it out?
Overall, I think the value is pretty fair.

I give up.