Trade Rumor: UTA, PHI and WAS, MIN

[theatlfan]

This was dropped on either the Philly Board on RealGm or one of the other Philly sites. Seems to me that Utah might get a better deal for the #3 pick but I don't know if they value the #6 pick or Nick Young all that much. This trade would leave Utah with Favors, Jefferson, Milsap, Hawes, Iggy, CJ Miles, Harris, Meeks, Gordon Hayward, & Raja Bell as their team. A nice mix of young guys and young veterans. Not bad. Also, Utah & Philly are frequent trade partners.

Still not a fan from UTH's side. They just got a boatload of futures for their star and now they're going to go for a vet/young pup mix? Eh, seems like a rudderless ship there. And they do this to pair perhaps the worst deep shooting back court in the NBA? Even worse. At least the WASH deal yields a 2nd young player (I booted the idea of Young in the other paragraph of my original post...) to continue to build with the core of futures they got with the Deron deal. This deal just leaves them in limbo - good enough to make a run @ the playoffs, not good enough to do anything if they got there.

Personally, if I was UTH, I'd stand pat in the draft and take "my" guy. I'd even talk to MIN about moving up a slot if the guy was Williams. Either way, I would look to make the splash at the deadline by shopping Harris and (hopefully a healthy) Okur. Even on a deadline whiff, I still go into next off-season with enough cap room to make a splash and enough young kids to catch someone's attention.

[Bring Back 1983]

The idea suggested earlier that the Sixers would trade Iggy for Okur and some minor parts is actually pretty funny. Given his health, Okur the expiring contract has now reached equal or greater value to Okur the player. I actually winced when I saw 3 starters in the deal, but I can understand why. If Minny is telling the truth and does not trade the No. 2 pick, I think Kanter does drop to 3. Makes me fear drafting Jimmer at No. 16, but I guess there's a cost to everything.

[WizardsWorld]

Ya our guy is Williams. If we move up somehow hes the one we're targeting. However if we can not get #2 ... and #3 is offered to us for #6 and Young I would probably still do it. That is if we could work a way out to resign Young and send him off.

[old rem]

As most others have said, Utah is overpaying. I think someone is talking out their azz with this rumor. Maybe an agent.

No doubt. 14 ppg and a contract soaring to almost $16 mill,is not a good mix. Iggy is a real ace ROLE PLAYER,but the MONEY always speaks and with a new CBA coming..the money SCREAMS.

Teams like those low $ rookie deals.

[corwin]

Personally, if I was UTH, I'd stand pat in the draft and take "my" guy. I'd even talk to MIN about moving up a slot if the guy was Williams. Either way, I would look to make the splash at the deadline by shopping Harris and (hopefully a healthy) Okur. Even on a deadline whiff, I still go into next off-season with enough cap room to make a splash and enough young kids to catch someone's attention.

As a Philly fan, I think the same way. I want to see them build to a championship by acquiring the young core pieces and letting them grow as a team. Thing is unless you have top young players & a star (the OKC model) it's tough to pull off. I'm not sure managements think the same way, either Utah's or Philly's.

[corwin]

As most others have said, Utah is overpaying. I think someone is talking out their azz with this rumor. Maybe an agent.

No doubt. 14 ppg and a contract soaring to almost $16 mill,is not a good mix. Iggy is a real ace ROLE PLAYER,but the MONEY always speaks and with a new CBA coming..the money SCREAMS.

Teams like those low $ rookie deals.

Rem, I've got to laugh about your constantly going off about Iggy's salary (you never mention that the last year is a player option. Since he'll be 29, he'll most likely exercise it to get a longer deal) since GS is one of the other places that is in all the speculation as a destination for Iggy. I haven't figured out what exactly it means to have Lacob, Myers & now Jerry West in charge of the Warriors, but I'm guessing that they will want to create a more traditional team; one that plays defense. Let's face it, Monta & Biendrin's money is already spent so Iggy for either of them is not beyond the realm of imagination.

[hoops4life]

I would rather that the Jazz trade number 3 for Nick Young and #6. Use the 6 to hopefully take Knight or Walker.

[Sixerlover]

Still not a fan from UTH's side. They just got a boatload of futures for their star and now they're going to go for a vet/young pup mix? Eh, seems like a rudderless ship there. And they do this to pair perhaps the worst deep shooting back court in the NBA? Even worse. At least the WASH deal yields a 2nd young player (I booted the idea of Young in the other paragraph of my original post...) to continue to build with the core of futures they got with the Deron deal. This deal just leaves them in limbo - good enough to make a run @ the playoffs, not good enough to do anything if they got there.

Personally, if I was UTH, I'd stand pat in the draft and take "my" guy. I'd even talk to MIN about moving up a slot if the guy was Williams. Either way, I would look to make the splash at the deadline by shopping Harris and (hopefully a healthy) Okur. Even on a deadline whiff, I still go into next off-season with enough cap room to make a splash and enough young kids to catch someone's attention.

They didn't really get a boatload of young players did they? Devin Harris is older than Iguodala, Milsap is one year younger, and Jefferson is one year younger as well. That would be the core i'm assuming.

[Sixerlover]

As most others have said, Utah is overpaying. I think someone is talking out their azz with this rumor. Maybe an agent.

No doubt. 14 ppg and a contract soaring to almost $16 mill,is not a good mix. Iggy is a real ace ROLE PLAYER,but the MONEY always speaks and with a new CBA coming..the money SCREAMS.

Teams like those low $ rookie deals.

/Iggy>MontaEllis

[the_process]

No doubt. 14 ppg and a contract soaring to almost $16 mill,is not a good mix. Iggy is a real ace ROLE PLAYER,but the MONEY always speaks and with a new CBA coming..the money SCREAMS.

Teams like those low $ rookie deals.

Hey REM, are you ready for West to give Ellis, D. Wright, and Udoh to the Lakers for Lamar Odom, Luke Walton, Shannon Brown, and Derrick Caracter? Gonna happen.

[John Doe [MIN]]

Plenty of talk about it being bad for Utah. Anyone want to address Minnesota moving down from its highest ever draft position (and they've been in the lottery A LOT) for no incentive whatsoever?

[Hoopalotta]

Anyone want to address Minnesota moving down from its highest ever draft position (and they've been in the lottery A LOT) for no incentive whatsoever?

Well as a Washington fan, my main contribution to that discussion would be to say I like it. I like it a lot. Probably not what you were looking for, though.

Really, the whole thing's absurd; Washington isn't going to approach Nick and say "well, we really like you, but how about forgoing the free agent process and arbitrarily agreeing to a 'wink-wink extension now for now good reason". What if he says no? We've insulted him. If he says yes, it's not binding anyway.

Then, if Minnesota knows that we'd be willing to move Nick and they like him, why not just make him a bigger offer on the other side of the CBA without degrading the value of the 2nd pick? Something that we wouldn't match.

And that's not even getting into 10,000 other issues surrounding the idea of trading a restricted free agent during the draft.