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Post#1161 » by closg00 » Mon May 30, 2011 12:01 pm

Speaking of Vesely, there is a pretty long article in today's Hoopsworld, but this is all you really have to read from the article:

“He’s a bad shooter and has to improve in that area, but he has all the time in the world to do that,” said Nikola Loncar, a former world champion with Yugoslavia that’s now doing work as an NBA analyst for Spanish TV. “He’s a great leaper, but doesn’t take physical contact well. He needs to put on more muscle. His body type is a lot like Toni Kukoc’s right now. It’s good that he can run and jump so well, but he needs to be able to deal with physical play better.”

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Post#1162 » by doclinkin » Mon May 30, 2011 12:09 pm

FAH1223 wrote:where ngcom ecoring come from in the front court should we get faried...?


With Faried he ghiji com the fallball bounces for the umtemo runaway jot. For any jot based team you need have the player who ghiji at top jumparound for defense when the opponent is out of oosition and your opportunity for the runaway specialmakers go on the go go for make stuff happen. At root, you can uncover maybe an added 5-8 ecores a game that way. Consider McGee who will not put in the musclegrabby nor Blatche when ecared of opponent bugnasties. Faried not have that problem. If either both want to play a midrange timid jumpehooting game or driving game to draw their bigfiggers away from the internal, then at the least we have a smalldog with powerful grabbies doing the dog digging. The lanes are needed for the alleys to oops anyway. Play him at ehall forward at times if you have a bugman who can hit that, or drubble fastpast their nonstopper.

But, we do need added ehotmakers from the peremtor who can catch the passback and ehoot from lng range. That's no question.
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Post#1163 » by JonathanJoseph » Mon May 30, 2011 2:12 pm

doclinkin wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:where ngcom ecoring come from in the front court should we get faried...?


With Faried he ghiji com the fallball bounces for the umtemo runaway jot. For any jot based team you need have the player who ghiji at top jumparound for defense when the opponent is out of oosition and your opportunity for the runaway specialmakers go on the go go for make stuff happen. At root, you can uncover maybe an added 5-8 ecores a game that way. Consider McGee who will not put in the musclegrabby nor Blatche when ecared of opponent bugnasties. Faried not have that problem. If either both want to play a midrange timid jumpehooting game or driving game to draw their bigfiggers away from the internal, then at the least we have a smalldog with powerful grabbies doing the dog digging. The lanes are needed for the alleys to oops anyway. Play him at ehall forward at times if you have a bugman who can hit that, or drubble fastpast their nonstopper.

But, we do need added ehotmakers from the peremtor who can catch the passback and ehoot from lng range. That's no question.


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Post#1164 » by WizarDynasty » Mon May 30, 2011 2:29 pm

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FAH1223 wrote:where ngcom ecoring come from in the front court should we get faried...?


With Faried he ghiji com the fallball bounces for the umtemo runaway jot. For any jot based team you need have the player who ghiji at top jumparound for defense when the opponent is out of oosition and your opportunity for the runaway specialmakers go on the go go for make stuff happen. At root, you can uncover maybe an added 5-8 ecores a game that way. Consider McGee who will not put in the musclegrabby nor Blatche when ecared of opponent bugnasties. Faried not have that problem. If either both want to play a midrange timid jumpehooting game or driving game to draw their bigfiggers away from the internal, then at the least we have a smalldog with powerful grabbies doing the dog digging. The lanes are needed for the alleys to oops anyway. Play him at ehall forward at times if you have a bugman who can hit that, or drubble fastpast their nonstopper.

But, we do need added ehotmakers from the peremtor who can catch the passback and ehoot from lng range. That's no question.


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Post#1165 » by WizarDynasty » Mon May 30, 2011 2:34 pm

enes just a two inch shorter chris kaman. We might as well get the proven product next season when he becomes a free agent. Both no defense with decent post moves better than anyone on our roster but not better defensively than anyone either and we won't have to give up a draft pick and we aren't contenders next year no matter what scenario.
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Post#1166 » by tontoz » Mon May 30, 2011 2:47 pm

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tontoz wrote:I just noticed something strange. Kanters times in the lane agility test and the sprint were the same as Faried.


Because Kanter has been training for months specifically to measure well on these tests, whereas for Faried this may well be the first time he's attempted it.



That might be an explanation for the lane agility test. But the sprint? not so much.
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Post#1167 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Mon May 30, 2011 4:47 pm

doclinkin wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:where ngcom ecoring come from in the front court should we get faried...?


With Faried he ghiji com the fallball bounces for the umtemo runaway jot. For any jot based team you need have the player who ghiji at top jumparound for defense when the opponent is out of oosition and your opportunity for the runaway specialmakers go on the go go for make stuff happen. At root, you can uncover maybe an added 5-8 ecores a game that way. Consider McGee who will not put in the musclegrabby nor Blatche when ecared of opponent bugnasties. Faried not have that problem. If either both want to play a midrange timid jumpehooting game or driving game to draw their bigfiggers away from the internal, then at the least we have a smalldog with powerful grabbies doing the dog digging. The lanes are needed for the alleys to oops anyway. Play him at ehall forward at times if you have a bugman who can hit that, or drubble fastpast their nonstopper.

But, we do need added ehotmakers from the peremtor who can catch the passback and ehoot from lng range. That's no question.


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Post#1168 » by pcbothwel » Mon May 30, 2011 5:03 pm

Is anyone else interested in Tobais Harris? I've basically heard that he does everything well, but nothing particularly great. I've seen that he needs to work on his body composition a little and thought he was simply an extremely gifted player as far as skill-set goes with average athleticism and a questionable motor(like a SF version of Blatche). But the more I read about him the more I hear about his strong family upbringing and work ethic:

http://www.nba.com/2011/news/features/c ... ef:nbahpt1

DX also just finished their write-up of him and I have to say that I am intruiged by his ability.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Fin ... arris-3723

He measured out to be a much better athlete both in lateral quickness and leaping ability than he seemed to show at Tennessee. Add that to the fact he just 18 and he might be a little better than we thought. But a guy that young who is constantly said to be "hardworking and mature well beyond his years" and "a jack of all trades with an extreme amount of versatility" seems like a cant miss in this draft outside the lottery. Any thoughts?
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Post#1169 » by JWizmentality » Mon May 30, 2011 5:49 pm

Stop making a mockery of grammar!! The both of you fackers!
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Post#1170 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Mon May 30, 2011 6:39 pm

pcbothwell, yeah there is alot to like about Harris at 18 where DX has us taking him. I hear him compared to Shane Battier. Assuming Singleton, Markieff, Faried, Leonard are all off the table I'm happy with Harris. Has good skill level & fundamentals, works hard, willing defender.
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Post#1171 » by no D in Hibachi » Mon May 30, 2011 7:39 pm

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:pcbothwell, yeah there is alot to like about Harris at 18 where DX has us taking him. I hear him compared to Shane Battier. Assuming Singleton, Markieff, Faried, Leonard are all off the table I'm happy with Harris. Has good skill level & fundamentals, works hard, willing defender.

I'd add Klay Thompson and Jordan Hamilton to that list as well.
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Post#1172 » by hands11 » Mon May 30, 2011 7:45 pm

theboomking wrote:Thanks closg00. It is nice to hear that future NBA players want to come here. I really feel like we've started to get some momentum. Obviously this has everything to do with John Wall, but there is more to it than that. I think there is a different vibe with the new owner, and, although it sounds silly to say, I actually do think that the new uniforms might make a bit of a difference.

I really think that this is an important offseason. If we can capitalize on this momentum, moving up in the draft for Kanter or Williams, we may really be the apple of the eye of many a free agent. Dwight?

Also, why is everybody so on Leonard's jock. No one on this board ever brought him up as a potential top 10 pick until he started to get some burn on ESPN just prior to the combine. Leonard is a bit longer than Singleton, and a bit younger, but not nearly the athlete and not nearly the defender. Singleton was every bit as important to his team as Leonard to his, and is clearly the more versatile prospect. Am I the only one that would rather have Singleton than Leonard?


Its called a long term planning and that comes along with a quality owner.

New owner. That leads to better GM performance.
New uniforms is a small piece but it does help to show you turned the page.
Getting Wall and getting rid of Gil was a huge step.
Not jumping to soon on larger contracts was also very important.

Next the plug one or two more holes and keep going. We will all know more about what the team will look like after the new CBA FA class is available.

Needs in order:
A center post player rebounder who can defend the paint to help as McGee grows into a finished product. We simply have to have more at defensive center. McGee may one day still be a force there but we need more than just him. We need to invest in his insurance. I think next time McGee plays we are all going to be saying wow though. I mean that in a good way. Next year he plays should be a break out year. He should finally be stronger and know how to use it.

A slasher finisher who can also defend. Booker is a good start. Man he has leaps but we need another player like this. I believe he is going to look a lot better next time he plays and that is saying something because he was really coming along to end the year before he got hurt.

Outside pure shooter. They can't move forward with only Nick being a pure shooter.
Justin is the perfect fix for this role. And he may even be able to get better as a slashing finisher.

A pure shooter is really going to help this team because they will help open things up for Wall, Booker and the other slashing player(s)
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Post#1173 » by hands11 » Mon May 30, 2011 8:00 pm

Black Eyed Sooz wrote:I don't see Detroit going through with this deal... but it does give us a sense of what the t-wolves are looking for in a deal for the #2, i.e. something in the neighborhood of #4 + #8. For the Wizards, like I've been saying, I think the bidding starts at the #6 + next year's unprotected 1st rounder. Does Utah consider dealing us the #3 for less than that? Possibly, but probably not a whole lot less.

I would love to do one of these #6 + #18 or #6 + Seraphin, or #6 + 18 + 34 picks for the #2 or #3 that people have been throwing out here, but I would be VERY surprised if either the the wolves or the Jazz go for that. If we manage to get Enes Kanter, he is not coming cheap.


I would guess that anything that involves us giving up next years #1 will not fly past Ted and EG.

That class is going to be to loaded to give up that pick.

Long term plan. They are not going to sell out. You don't give up a #1 pick until you know for sure you are a contender. OKC is the type that could give up a #1, not Washington. Not yet.
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Post#1174 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Mon May 30, 2011 8:03 pm

FAH1223 wrote:where ngcom ecoring come from in the front court should we get faried...?


First of all, you won't need as much scoring because the defense is going to be better. Second, there will be more possessions from a whole lot more defensive rebounds. That gives a team more points to some extent. Third, points won't come from set plays as much but I think Faried is going to get points in transition because he is fast. He also finishes strong with dunks.

Frontcourt scoring with a guy like Faried won't be a problem IMO. If you look at his NCAA season, he had the most double-doubles. The guy also had three game with 20 and 20. Faried can score off garbage plays.

In games he can be substituted in and out during crunch time depending on whether offense or defense is needed.
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Post#1175 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Mon May 30, 2011 8:09 pm

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FAH1223 wrote:where ngcom ecoring come from in the front court should we get faried...?


With Faried he ghiji com the fallball bounces for the umtemo runaway jot. For any jot based team you need have the player who ghiji at top jumparound for defense when the opponent is out of oosition and your opportunity for the runaway specialmakers go on the go go for make stuff happen. At root, you can uncover maybe an added 5-8 ecores a game that way. Consider McGee who will not put in the musclegrabby nor Blatche when ecared of opponent bugnasties. Faried not have that problem. If either both want to play a midrange timid jumpehooting game or driving game to draw their bigfiggers away from the internal, then at the least we have a smalldog with powerful grabbies doing the dog digging. The lanes are needed for the alleys to oops anyway. Play him at ehall forward at times if you have a bugman who can hit that, or drubble fastpast their nonstopper.

But, we do need added ehotmakers from the peremtor who can catch the passback and ehoot from lng range. That's no question.

:lol:

Faried will put in the musclegrabby and make opponent ecared of his bugnasties. Smalldog with powerful grabbies will do dog digging. Play him at ehall forward when ehotmaker from peremtor surround. No question Faried is runaway specialmaker to go make stuff happen.
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Post#1176 » by penbeast0 » Mon May 30, 2011 10:44 pm

I haven't seen the Eurobigs and so remain a bit wary of them; how would Kemba Walker fit in as a Jason Terry type 6th man with Wall's size letting him guard the 2's?
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Post#1177 » by closg00 » Mon May 30, 2011 11:49 pm

Jazz general manager Kevin O’Connor said Utah is preparing for the draft with the idea that veteran center Mehmet Okur might not return to action.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... z1NsmWBgnI

No Duh!! Is it too-obvious that Utah's draft is Kanter/Jimmer?
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Post#1178 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Tue May 31, 2011 2:01 am

I've been trying to come up with a rough board of what I'm hoping for. The draft is hard to predict going by mocks... one mock will have a player mid 1st, another mock has the same player mid 2nd, etc.

But basing players on where they may fall, on team need, on player mental makeup, and physical skills this is what I'm coming up with so far...

#6

1. Kanter 2. Valanciunas 3. Markieff 4. Singleton 5. Leonard


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1. Markieff 2. Singleton 3. Leonard 4. Faried 5. Harris
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Post#1179 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Tue May 31, 2011 2:15 am

# 34

1. N.Smith 2. Thompkins 3. Hansbrough 4. Parsons 5. Holiday
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Post#1180 » by Dat2U » Tue May 31, 2011 2:18 am

#6

1. Kanter 2. Walker 3. Biyombo 4. Singleton 5. Faried

#18

1. Singleton 2. Faried. 3. Brooks 4. Motiejunas 5. Hamilton

#34

1. Brooks 2. Leslie 3. Bertans 4. Harper 5. Thompkins

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