[2011 Draft Thread Pt 3] - NY To TradeUp? (Update Top Pg 22)

SonOfMars · Post #421 » by **SonOfMars** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 10:26 pm

Jimmers actually a pretty good PG, he has good passing skills, definetly better than TDouglas

Jimmer averaged 4.3 apg, to put that in comparison, likely #1 pick, Kyrie Irving, also averaged exactly 4.3 apg, and yeah, he was in a weaker conference, but Jimmer had wayy less help on his team

His defense on the other hand is questionable, but he did great on the agility test, so its not like he cant defend, its more wether he has the will to defend..

I wouldnt mind trading up for him, but not at a cost thats too risky..

Post #422 » by **GONYK** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 10:28 pm

Mac1Money wrote:Jimmers actually a pretty good PG, he has good passing skills, definetly better than TDouglas

Jimmer averaged 4.3 apg, to put that in comparison, likely #1 pick, Kyrie Irving, also averaged exactly 4.3 apg, and yeah, he was in a weaker conference, but Jimmer had wayy less help on his team

His defense on the other hand is questionable, but he did great on the agility test, so its not like he cant defend, its more wether he has the will to defend..

I wouldnt mind trading up for him, but not at a cost thats too risky..

Keep in mind though that Jimmer also had a much higher usage rate

earthmansurfer · Post #423 » by **earthmansurfer** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 10:33 pm

MeloTime wrote:Below are 3 picks we should target some how , all teams owe us
Wovles handed them AR and Darko
Houston , Jordan Hill and multiple picks
Dallas , Corey Brewer for fee

Wolves 20
Houston 23
Dallas 26

I actually wonder if there is a possibility here. Once could come up with good arguments for all 3...

earthmansurfer · Post #424 » by **earthmansurfer** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 10:35 pm

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Goudelock is one of the best shooters in the draft. RIGHT UP THERE with Thompson and Fredette. If we go with a bigger body at 17, we should definitely target him later.

popper · Post #425 » by **popper** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 10:42 pm

What about Anthony Weiner with our 17th. He's definately got ups and make no bone about it, he could be the third leg in our quest for a championship. Plus he won't go soft on us like some of our guys. He plays hard all the time.

Day_Man · Post #426 » by **Day_Man** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 10:46 pm

I think Dantoni is behind all this Jimmer stuff.. seems like his type of guy.

HURRY UP AND SHOOT ANOTHER 3!!

Day_Man · Post #427 » by **Day_Man** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 10:47 pm

popper wrote:What about Anthony Weiner with our 17th. He's definately got ups and make no bone about it, he could be the third leg in our quest for a championship. Plus he won't go soft on us like some of our guys. He plays hard all the time.

I wanna keep Weiner for a future CP3 deal.

Falstaffxx · Post #428 » by **Falstaffxx** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 10:48 pm

Day_Man wrote:I think Dantoni is behind all this Jimmer stuff.. seems like his type of guy.

HURRY UP AND SHOOT ANOTHER 3!!

Yup, no other teams are interested in him. Just crazy D'Antoni and the Knicks.

Fury · Post #429 » by **Fury** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 10:48 pm

Day_Man wrote:I think Dantoni is behind all this Jimmer stuff.. seems like his type of guy.

HURRY UP AND SHOOT ANOTHER 3!!

I bet you that Mike D'Antoni created a guy exactly like Jimmer on My Player Mode in 2K11.

Day_Man · Post #430 » by **Day_Man** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 10:53 pm

I would have moved up to select Steph Curry but Jimmer not so much.

Fury · Post #431 » by **Fury** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 10:58 pm

Jimmer is a better scorer coming out of college. Not sure if he's a better PG though.

TrueWarrior · Post #432 » by **TrueWarrior** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 11:02 pm

Day_Man wrote:I would have moved up to select Steph Curry but Jimmer not so much.

Is there really much of a difference between the two?

Stephen was mocked pretty low before we started sweatin him, and then he got swiped right in front of us after we hyped him up. He had the same question marks as Jimmer. Stephen tried to prove himself as a PG his junior year, and his assists did rise, but his team didnt even make the NCAAs that year. Jimmer prob could have been more of a PG at BYU, but his team needed him to score, and he got to the Sweet 16 with nobodies. Stephen had his miracle run when he was a full on scorer, not a PG.

Jimmer tested out better than Stephen did athletically too. Hes stronger. I think you put him with Melo and Amare and he will be a pretty good point.

Post #433 » by **moocow007** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 11:11 pm

popper wrote:What about Anthony Weiner with our 17th. He's definately got ups and make no bone about it, he could be the third leg in our quest for a championship. Plus he won't go soft on us like some of our guys. He plays hard all the time.

No thanks he strikes as a prick. By the way Ive got a bone to pick with that Ginger Lee chick. How can anyone find that pinky **** attractive.

SonOfMars · Post #434 » by **SonOfMars** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 11:17 pm

Looking at the poll, I see Klay with more votes than Marshon

When did that happen? Just 2-3 days ago we heard Brooks outplayed Klay in our workout, then he got outplayed again by Brooks in Indy's workout, We know the knock on him is defense, but if another rookie is killing him, what is he gonna do against the DWades, Ray Allens, MGinoblis, Iguodalas etc etc

The only things that Klay is better than Brooks in is passing and shooting, and its not like Brooks shoots like Rondo, he can knock down shots..

Bklyn&company · Post #435 » by **Bklyn&company** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 11:18 pm

Just hope we get Brooks (1a) or Klay(1b). I want dudes who are going to produce and play their true natural position, giving us something we don't have to help us to go to that next level. This is a win now squad. No more under size, out of position fools. We don't have time to waste. So people stop dreaming dudes are going to come in and be the next steve francis(Selby) or the next Dirk(Motie), it ain't happening, not with Stats and Melo on this team.

Day_Man · Post #436 » by **Day_Man** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 11:22 pm

TrueWarrior wrote:
Day_Man wrote:I would have moved up to select Steph Curry but Jimmer not so much.

Is there really much of a difference between the two?

Stephen was mocked pretty low before we started sweatin him, and then he got swiped right in front of us after we hyped him up. He had the same question marks as Jimmer. Stephen tried to prove himself as a PG his junior year, and his assists did rise, but his team didnt even make the NCAAs that year. Jimmer prob could have been more of a PG at BYU, but his team needed him to score, and he got to the Sweet 16 with nobodies. Stephen had his miracle run when he was a full on scorer, not a PG.

Jimmer tested out better than Stephen did athletically too. Hes stronger. I think you put him with Melo and Amare and he will be a pretty good point.

I hear you.. In 09 I really wanted Steph and would have like to trade up to secure him, not as high on Jimmer.

CoolKids · Post #437 » by **CoolKids** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 11:22 pm

Mac1Money wrote:Looking at the poll, I see Klay with more votes than Marshon

When did that happen? Just 2-3 days ago we heard Brooks outplayed Klay in our workout, then he got outplayed again by Brooks in Indy's workout, We know the knock on him is defense, but if another rookie is killing him, what is he gonna do against the DWades, Ray Allens, MGinoblis, Iguodalas etc etc

The only things that Klay is better than Brooks in is pa ssing and shooting,and its not like Brooks shoots like Rondo, he can knock down shots..

yea who needs that :lol:

Post #438 » by **GONYK** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 11:23 pm

CoolKids wrote:
Mac1Money wrote:Looking at the poll, I see Klay with more votes than Marshon

When did that happen? Just 2-3 days ago we heard Brooks outplayed Klay in our workout, then he got outplayed again by Brooks in Indy's workout, We know the knock on him is defense, but if another rookie is killing him, what is he gonna do against the DWades, Ray Allens, MGinoblis, Iguodalas etc etc

The only things that Klay is better than Brooks in is pa ssing and shooting,and its not like Brooks shoots like Rondo, he can knock down shots..

yea who needs that

Klay is also a smarter player IMO

Day_Man · Post #439 » by **Day_Man** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 11:25 pm

I perfer Klay to Brooks, but Brooks is a good 2nd option.

SonOfMars · Post #440 » by **SonOfMars** » Wed Jun 8, 2011 11:25 pm

CoolKids wrote:
Mac1Money wrote:Looking at the poll, I see Klay with more votes than Marshon

When did that happen? Just 2-3 days ago we heard Brooks outplayed Klay in our workout, then he got outplayed again by Brooks in Indy's workout, We know the knock on him is defense, but if another rookie is killing him, what is he gonna do against the DWades, Ray Allens, MGinoblis, Iguodalas etc etc

The only things that Klay is better than Brooks in is pa ssing and shooting,and its not like Brooks shoots like Rondo, he can knock down shots..

yea who needs that

Are you serious? Off all the things that make up a complete basketball player, ALL the things, hes better at two..

and like I mentioned, as far as shooting..its not like hes terrible, he has a very good shot, just not lights out like Thompson can be...

But take my words however you'd like them...

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