Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread Part 9

BrandonRoy · Post #861 » by **BrandonRoy** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 12:53 am

RINSE wrote:I will stab myself in the face if we draft Vesely

They won't care if you stab your face, but if we ALL threaten to stab our faces then maybe they won't draft him.

Cool-Hand-Luke · Post #862 » by **Cool-Hand-Luke** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 12:56 am

RINSE wrote:I will stab myself in the face if we draft Vesely

will you stab me before you stab yourself?

Post #863 » by **darth_federer** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 12:56 am

Its amazing how so many people put their foots in their mouths by taking such absolutist positions against prospects. Fact is that we dont know how guys will turn out. Demar looked like a bad shooter and defender too and now he looks like a good building block. As critical as Ive been of Colangelo I trust him completely when it comes to the draft.

fredericklove · Post #864 » by **fredericklove** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 1:19 am

coolhandluke99 wrote:
RINSE wrote:I will stab myself in the face if we draft Vesely

will you stab me before you stab yourself?

I wanna join the self-stabbing party too 8-)

I also don't mind stabbing Vesely in the face too. :angel:

Post #865 » by **5DOM** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 1:20 am

fredericklove wrote:
coolhandluke99 wrote:
RINSE wrote:I will stab myself in the face if we draft Vesely

will you stab me before you stab yourself?

I wanna join the self-stabbing party too I also don't mind stabbing Vesely in the face too.

McFurious1 · Post #866 » by **McFurious1** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 1:46 am

Rhettmatic wrote:Umm... Have you actually watched Vesely play in a game? He gets blown by constantly. Can't keep anyone in front of him. If he can't do that in the Euroleague, I have serious doubts he can do it in the NBA.

As far as his three-point shooting, he shot 28.2 per cent in the Adriatic League this year and 33.3 in the Euroleague on 0.6 makes per game. Of course, that's the Euro 3. Not sure you should be touting his shooting as a strength.

Yes I've watched Vesley play a game because I get Rogers Sportsnet Belgrade. I wasn't touting his shooting but he has the mechanics to hit the 3 point shot, and his size/speed makes for a good defender. The kid is an athlete look at DeMar he couldn't shoot for sheet now he's developed a decent shot you can't teach athletism.

Post #867 » by **Rhettmatic** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 1:51 am

McFurious1 wrote:
Rhettmatic wrote:Umm... Have you actually watched Vesely play in a game? He gets blown by constantly. Can't keep anyone in front of him. If he can't do that in the Euroleague, I have serious doubts he can do it in the NBA.

As far as his three-point shooting, he shot 28.2 per cent in the Adriatic League this year and 33.3 in the Euroleague on 0.6 makes per game. Of course, that's the Euro 3. Not sure you should be touting his shooting as a strength.

Yes I've watched Vesley play a game because I get Rogers Sportsnet Belgrade. I wasn't touting his shooting but he has the mechanics to hit the 3 point shot, and his size/speed makes for a good defender. The kid is an athlete look at DeMar he couldn't shoot for sheet now he's developed a decent shot you can't teach athletism.

His size doesn't necessarily make for a good defender unless he has the lateral quicks to keep people in front of him, and he doesn't.

I take it from the Belgrade comment that you haven't, in fact, watched him play (there have been lots of opportunities to see him via streams), so I guess we can just wrap this discussion up right now.

McFurious1 · Post #868 » by **McFurious1** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 2:07 am

I guess all the GM's and mock boards must be wrong on Vesely then. Whoever BC picks I'll trust that player was the best player whoever it is Walker, Vesley, Kanter... cause there's not one player in this draft who doesn't have question marks.

C_Money · Post #869 » by **C_Money** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 2:07 am

Knight and Walker both know Demar. What a suprise.

fredericklove · Post #870 » by **fredericklove** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 2:22 am

5DOM wrote:
fredericklove wrote:I wanna join the self-stabbing party too I also don't mind stabbing Vesely in the face too.

Kevin Willis · Post #871 » by **Kevin Willis** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 2:44 am

Rhettmatic wrote:Pretty in-depth scouting report on Vesely here written by David Locke:

http://www.nba.com/jazz/features/draft2 ... esely.html

I really hope we don't draft him.

Thanks for the report. He's better than Biyombo. Locke did a report on BB and I wanted to puke.

DatHomieYouHaTe · Post #872 » by **DatHomieYouHaTe** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 3:44 am

Kevin Willis wrote:
Rhettmatic wrote:Pretty in-depth scouting report on Vesely here written by David Locke:

http://www.nba.com/jazz/features/draft2 ... esely.html

I really hope we don't draft him.

Thanks for the report. He's better than Biyombo. Locke did a report on BB and I wanted to puke.

Ya he watch one Biyombo game... The nike hoops summit with his "top notch report" Gimme a break what a noob

totallyr · Post #873 » by **totallyr** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 3:54 am

Couldn't be bothered reading all this thread to see if it's in here but here's some mocks till you drop. http://dcprosportsreport.com/NBAMocks.htm

ziplockfresh · Post #874 » by **ziplockfresh** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 6:16 am

Raps need a mid to late 1st round pick to get Faried. He can fill Reggie's role when he leaves.

Reef · Post #875 » by **Reef** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 6:22 am

ziplockfresh wrote:Raps need a mid to late 1st round pick to get Faried. He can fill Reggie's role when he leaves.

No need, we have Dorsey.

ziplockfresh · Post #876 » by **ziplockfresh** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 6:36 am

I'd rather have Faried. But yea, I get you.

S.W.A.N · Post #877 » by **S.W.A.N** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 7:27 am

Kevin Willis wrote:
Rhettmatic wrote:Pretty in-depth scouting report on Vesely here written by David Locke:

http://www.nba.com/jazz/features/draft2 ... esely.html

I really hope we don't draft him.

Thanks for the report. He's better than Biyombo. Locke did a report on BB and I wanted to puke.

Vesely is a guy I just can't convince myself to like. Bad shooting, bad hands, questionable defense and rebounding tweener.... I sure he has a lot of good things going for him, too many nba people love him but I would rather take Val Kanter or Biyimbo any day of the week

Indeed · Post #878 » by **Indeed** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 11:35 am

S.W.A.N wrote:
Kevin Willis wrote:
Rhettmatic wrote:Pretty in-depth scouting report on Vesely here written by David Locke:

http://www.nba.com/jazz/features/draft2 ... esely.html

I really hope we don't draft him.

Thanks for the report. He's better than Biyombo. Locke did a report on BB and I wanted to puke.

Vesely is a guy I just can't convince myself to like. Bad shooting, bad hands, questionable defense and rebounding tweener.... I sure he has a lot of good things going for him, too many nba people love him but I would rather take Val Kanter or Biyimbo any day of the week

Vesely is already half of AK, he is actually a safer pick than Val and Bismack. I suppose he will be gone by 7th or 8th. I think he is at Davis level and have a better potential being quicker on the floor.

SkywalkerAC · Post #879 » by **SkywalkerAC** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 12:26 pm

knight or the best big man that falls. at least that makes it easyish to scout.

i still hope against hope that it's biyombo that is good enough to warrant our selection. he's the one that i dream can catalyze our defense and finish at the rim on offense.

he might not be that good but i sure as hell hope he is. does James Johnson/Amir/Davis/Biyombo not look like a decent defensive core?

phailing101 · Post #880 » by **phailing101** » Thu Jun 9, 2011 12:31 pm

People are understandably getting all worked up over the mocks showing Vesely to the raps but I don't buy it.

I think he is a guy who will slide into the late lottery.

If we do end up with him atleast we'll have some NBA facials being served up again.....along with the usual side of poor rebounding and defense...../facepalm