Michael Beasley anyone?

[captaincrunk]

I feel what you are saying Paydro, but you have to remember this kid has had some deep seated issues. I mean serious issues. You are confident that he is worth the risk. He might be. The problem is that we are not really in the position to be taking risks. That is why the Bobs plan to be conservative in this draft.

Our captain and leader of the team once shot a handgun outside of a night club and brawled with fans. I don't think we're really that concerned with guys with issues.

By your logic, we won't be looking at resigning Dante (pot) or drafting Klay Thompson (pot).

haa ha I love it. Bring on the reformed gangsters. At least they can give bron bron threatening looks.

[Kembastockton]

One thing if nothing else, between Jack and Beasley the cats would have some serious swag.

[Wizard of POOH]

Take him if they just decide to give him away for free.

[Elden Payton]

I'd take him for something of value even, we need to go for a homerun to overcome this mediocrity which is seemingly our destiny,It's time we became proactive.

[Battery]

Well if Paydro says Beasley is not good right now then that means HE IS NOT GOOD. I'm shocked though because I would have thought Paydro would be doing cartwheels over the possibility of getting a player who puts up a bunch of juicy stats.

Short answer is that he actually doesn't put up juicy stats. He takes a ton of shots, sometimes they go in, and his other contributions are only meh (and that's for an SF... for a PF they're bad).

I do think if he didn't carry such a crazy-ass load he would probably be a lot more efficient. The man has a 26% usage rate, which is ahead of DIRK. I don't think that's entirely the role of selfishness, that Minnesota team is horrible. Add to that his youth and obvious athletic gifts and I think he at least has some potential to shape up, as opposed to Jackson, who is obviously only going to get worse and will not be here by the time we're actually good again. Pretty much that makes me view Jackson as free money to deal for prospects, he really doesn't need to be wasting his time here anymore.

no no no no no no no you didn't just throw out some fancy stat nobody cares about and use that as justification he actually is better at something than Dirk. NO WAY. The difference is, Dirk does it night in and night out against other teams that are playing their A game and are going all out trying to stop him. No team gets up to play the Minnesota T-Wolves which is something you never even consider. That is why fancy stats from players on teams that win like 2 games all year are MEANINGLESS.

Its a whole other intensity level when Dallas comes to town as opposed to when Minnesota rides in on their broken down scooter. And then you have Minnesota getting their doors blown off in the first half, do you believe the opposing team is going all out to stop Beasley in the second half??? Hell no, a game against the lazy ass no defense playing T-Wolves is basically a day off for good NBA teams.

As for S-Jax, I want him gone. Not because I don't think he's a good player, I do and I think he's one of the best motivators and leaders in the game, but he talked junk about LB and thats a no no. He didn't come to play at the start of the season and was very selfish on the court. He needs to look in the mirror. But whatever, as long as he is here we will be stuck in mediocrity because we won't get a high enough pick. But for BEasley??? Hells no, you can't win on a consistent basis with those types of players and he's basically a waste of time. I'd rather draft a SF and have MJ and Silas coach them from day 1. Beasley is uncoachable and THAT is why Minny wants to dump him, just like Riley wanted to dump him 2 minutes into his first year in the league.

ha ha Lebron.

[Paydro70]

If you don't know what that "fancy" stat means, why would you assume it says he's better than Dirk? In effect it means he shoots more than Dirk does, which is to say "way too much."

I don't think a hypothetical deal with Beasley would stop us from drafting an SF if there's a good one available. I don't really know what kind of value Jackson can actually command, he's played pretty well for us, but he's old and has two years still on his deal. I don't think anybody is going to want to be paying Jackson 10m for his 2012-13 season when he's 34. So even from salary perspective alone, Beasley is preferable. If he becomes a better, more mature player as he ages (he wouldn't be the first), it's a pleasant development.

I don't think that the T-Wolves would ever entertain that deal anyway.

[Elden Payton]

Well if Paydro says Beasley is not good right now then that means HE IS NOT GOOD. I'm shocked though because I would have thought Paydro would be doing cartwheels over the possibility of getting a player who puts up a bunch of juicy stats.

Short answer is that he actually doesn't put up juicy stats. He takes a ton of shots, sometimes they go in, and his other contributions are only meh (and that's for an SF... for a PF they're bad).

I do think if he didn't carry such a crazy-ass load he would probably be a lot more efficient. The man has a 26% usage rate, which is ahead of DIRK. I don't think that's entirely the role of selfishness, that Minnesota team is horrible. Add to that his youth and obvious athletic gifts and I think he at least has some potential to shape up, as opposed to Jackson, who is obviously only going to get worse and will not be here by the time we're actually good again. Pretty much that makes me view Jackson as free money to deal for prospects, he really doesn't need to be wasting his time here anymore.

no no no no no no no you didn't just throw out some fancy stat nobody cares about and use that as justification he actually is better at something than Dirk. NO WAY. The difference is, Dirk does it night in and night out against other teams that are playing their A game and are going all out trying to stop him. No team gets up to play the Minnesota T-Wolves which is something you never even consider. That is why fancy stats from players on teams that win like 2 games all year are MEANINGLESS.

Its a whole other intensity level when Dallas comes to town as opposed to when Minnesota rides in on their broken down scooter. And then you have Minnesota getting their doors blown off in the first half, do you believe the opposing team is going all out to stop Beasley in the second half??? Hell no, a game against the lazy ass no defense playing T-Wolves is basically a day off for good NBA teams.

As for S-Jax, I want him gone. Not because I don't think he's a good player, I do and I think he's one of the best motivators and leaders in the game, but he talked junk about LB and thats a no no. He didn't come to play at the start of the season and was very selfish on the court. He needs to look in the mirror. But whatever, as long as he is here we will be stuck in mediocrity because we won't get a high enough pick. But for BEasley??? Hells no, you can't win on a consistent basis with those types of players and he's basically a waste of time. I'd rather draft a SF and have MJ and Silas coach them from day 1. Beasley is uncoachable and THAT is why Minny wants to dump him, just like Riley wanted to dump him 2 minutes into his first year in the league.

ha ha Lebron.

What makes you think Beasley is uncoachable?? I'm sure Miami wish they kept him instead of Mike F'ing Miller(Whose job is to shoot...but he can't now), Yeah he's obviously immature but he's a young man & that young man has more natural talent than our whole team put together imo.

Remember how Chauncey Billups was pick 3 & bounced around before he found a home?? How did he repay that Organization?? With a chip that's how....& also his hometown team had to trade a future HOF'er to get him back.

Now I'm not saying that Bease is Billups(obviously) but I am saying that for whatever reasons in this business guys find themselves in detrimental situations which don't work out for them & once they find themselves in the right place it all comes together.

& LB deserved all the smack talk he got, it was about time he got his own back.

[Marvel]

LB deserved all the junk he got thrown at him.