ATL-CLE-CHI and ATL- DAL

FCNATL85 · Post #1 » by **FCNATL85** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:52 pm

Marvin to CLE

Varajeo to CHI

Asik & Watson to ATL and saves 2 MIL

ATL signs and trades JC1 7MIL to DAL for Haywood

JT- Watson-Sy
JJ - Hinrich-2nd (Sumpert or Dunn)
Smoothe- Damian-FA (Thorton-Battier)
Al- Zaza- Powell
Haywood-Asik-Zaza

myrak433 · Post #2 » by **myrak433** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:20 pm

FCNATL85 wrote:Marvin to CLE

Varajeo to CHI

Asik & Watson to ATL and saves 2 MIL

ATL signs and trades JC1 7MIL to DAL for Haywood

JT- Watson-Sy
JJ - Hinrich-2nd (Sumpert or Dunn)
Smoothe- Damian-FA (Thorton-Battier)
Al- Zaza- Powell
Haywood-Asik-Zaza

not bad but I don't think Clev will go for it. they value Varajeo more than they should. but they value him more than that.

theatlfan · Post #3 » by **theatlfan** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:55 pm

FCNATL85 wrote:Marvin to CLE

Varajeo to CHI

Asik & Watson to ATL and saves 2 MIL

Why on earth would we cut CHI in? If CLE would do a Marvin for Varejao swap, then CHI should (and would) get left in the cold...

Hydroponic3385 · Post #4 » by **Hydroponic3385** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:42 pm

myrak433 wrote:
FCNATL85 wrote:Marvin to CLE

Varajeo to CHI

Asik & Watson to ATL and saves 2 MIL

ATL signs and trades JC1 7MIL to DAL for Haywood

JT- Watson-Sy
JJ - Hinrich-2nd (Sumpert or Dunn)
Smoothe- Damian-FA (Thorton-Battier)
Al- Zaza- Powell
Haywood-Asik-Zaza

not bad but I don't think Clev will go for it. they value Varajeo more than they should. but they value him more than that.

Regardless of whether you think Cleveland overvalues Varejao, there's no doubt that a Marvin for Varejao deal is terrible for Cleveland. Varejao earned 2nd team All Defense and is a player who adds much more than just stats. Meanwhile Williams has been a mediocre wing and overall large disappointment in the NBA.

FCNATL85 · Post #5 » by **FCNATL85** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:08 am

theatlfan wrote:
FCNATL85 wrote:Marvin to CLE

Varajeo to CHI

Asik & Watson to ATL and saves 2 MIL

Why on earth would we cut CHI in? If CLE would do a Marvin for Varejao swap, then CHI should (and would) get left in the cold...

Because we save 2 MIL this way and Asik will be much cheaper and a lot more valuable than Varajeo in a few years...
ATL to add a first to CLE who might have to add a 2nd to CHI
To answer the last question Marv has been underused in ATL and show me who is playing SF in CLE...hence the target: cap and need at the position. In this context Marvin could surprise many. People in CLE remember the good defensive job he did on LeBron or even on Pierce a few years ago...

evildallas · Post #6 » by **evildallas** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:57 am

You'd have to tie a pork chop around Marvin's neck to get the dog to play with him. The equivalent in basketball terms is bundling a couple 1st round picks just to get someone to take him off our hands. You think he's worth a serviceable backup PG and a young C prospect that plays good D. Marvin would have had to live up to Billy Knight's expectations to be worth that much in trade.