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Re: Jan Vesely 

Post#201 » by keynote » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:01 pm

Koub3c wrote:Greetings from Czech rep.Because of amazing Jan I just become also WIZARDs fan :-) I have high confidence Washington is gonna love this guy.Just watch this video how popular he was in Partizan Belgrad.The whole famous Pionir Arena in Belgrad chanting his name in his last game for them,awesome feeling...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFFX6bGIBNQ


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Re: Jan Vesely 

Post#202 » by keynote » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:04 pm

dangermouse wrote:Refresh my memory, didnt Andray come into the league much thinner and projected as a Forward tweener?


I *rebuke* you for bringing up the spectre of Andray's physical development in this thread. If Vesely ends up with pipe cleaner arms and a beer gut in four years, then, er, we'll put a pox on your house.
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Re: Jan Vesely 

Post#203 » by Koub3c » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:20 pm

keynote wrote:
Koub3c wrote:Greetings from Czech rep.Because of amazing Jan I just become also WIZARDs fan :-) I have high confidence Washington is gonna love this guy.Just watch this video how popular he was in Partizan Belgrad.The whole famous Pionir Arena in Belgrad chanting his name in his last game for them,awesome feeling...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFFX6bGIBNQ


Welcome to the board, Koub3c! :)


Thanks mate,It´s a pleasure for me.Now I have two Czech stars in WASHINGTON, goalie Michael Neuvirth is a rising star of Capitals in NHL :-)

Come on Wizards and Capitols! :D
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Re: Jan Vesely 

Post#204 » by hands11 » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:00 pm

nate33 wrote:
dobrojim wrote:Poor man's Dirk I strongly doubt he'll ever become. I'd be pretty
happy with a player like AK47, Prince or Marion which he could have to
really blow up to become. We can dream anyway.

I don't think Kirilenko is a stretch at all. They have very similar styles except Kirilenko was a better passer. Kirilenko was fortunate enough to play in Sloan's disciplined UCLA offense where there are plenty of off-the-ball screens. If Vesely is to thrive in DC, we need guys to set better picks.


I agree he would be good out there with Seraphin or Booker as they set the best screens. One big question is going to be, how much different will Seraphin look. He was very athletic and strong but he didnt come into camp with his body right because he fought that knee injury over the summer. Seraphin showed he put in the work on a nice baby hook around the hoop game. Those players bring the muscle and strength that Jan may lack. And if Dray is right, so does he.

I could see Singleton getting the most minutes of the rookies right off the bat. He is the most veritable and with the most NBA ready skill - defense. Mack will get spot minutes ever few games. Singleton will likely get some burn every game. And they will work Jan is but I dont think he plays every game. With this team so young, they have plenty to look at without feed lots of minutes to Mack and Jan.

This next season, if we have one, is going to be about evaluating what they already had here last year. They have to learn more about Craw, Booker, Dray, Seraphin, McGee and Hamady and of that list Seraphin and Hamady are big questions. They have to figure out those two players so they can move forward.

Wall/Craw/Mack
Nick/Craw/Mack
Booker/Singleton/Jan
Dray/Lewis/Seraphin/Jan
McGee/Seraphin/Hamady

I would like to see another guard that can shoot but I'm not sure pure evaluation and losing isn't the way to go right now. They really need to look at what they have and they could use another high pick. Mack is a winner which is good but I thought we needed a pure shooter instead.

There is no reason to start Lewis since he isn't likely part of the longer term and now with Singleton and Jan here, we don't need Lewis eating up a lot of minutes at SF. Specially if the knee isnt right. Singleton or Jan won't start. That leaves Booker for now. He can eventually back up SF and PF.

Dray is the starting PF for 32-34 minutes so that leaves 14-16 minutes to play Lewis and see what Seraphin and Booker can do there also. I know people have Seraphin as a back up center but he should also be tried at PF so he can back that up.

Then we need to figure out of Hamady can back up at center. And as alway, evaluate Dray and McGee. At a min, showcase what he can do so he has value in a trade.

I think this team is going to be pretty bad unless we see some serious growth from Booker, Seraphin, Hamady, Dray and McGee. I say let it roll. Don't add vets. See what you have and develop who you can. Then get another top draft pick. This thing is fair from finished. There is likely going to need to be a complete make over by trading, etc.
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Re: Jan Vesely 

Post#205 » by GhostsOfGil » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:20 pm

Koub3c wrote:Greetings from Czech rep.Because of amazing Jan I just become also WIZARDs fan :-) I have high confidence Washington is gonna love this guy.Just watch this video how popular he was in Partizan Belgrad.The whole famous Pionir Arena in Belgrad chanting his name in his last game for them,awesome feeling...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFFX6bGIBNQ


i sure hope he learns to stop hanging on the rim. as soon as i see him do that, i always think instant T


hands11 wrote:Wall/Craw/Mack
Nick/Craw/Mack
Booker/Singleton/Jan
Dray/Lewis/Seraphin/Jan
McGee/Seraphin/Hamady


hands what makes u think booker can play the 3? in spot minutes sure, but we saw him at his best when he was playing the 4; crashing boards and taking slower 4s off the dribble.
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Re: Jan Vesely 

Post#206 » by Zonkerbl » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:23 pm

Koub3c wrote:
keynote wrote:
Koub3c wrote:Greetings from Czech rep.Because of amazing Jan I just become also WIZARDs fan :-) I have high confidence Washington is gonna love this guy.Just watch this video how popular he was in Partizan Belgrad.The whole famous Pionir Arena in Belgrad chanting his name in his last game for them,awesome feeling...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFFX6bGIBNQ


Welcome to the board, Koub3c! :)


Thanks mate,It´s a pleasure for me.Now I have two Czech stars in WASHINGTON, goalie Michael Neuvirth is a rising star of Capitals in NHL :-)

Come on Wizards and Capitols! :D


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Post#207 » by NbdyBeatsTheWiz » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:33 pm

via the associated press:

Wizards first-round F Jan Vesely said his top priority is to improve his woeful free throw shooting.
Vesely was a career 55 percent shooter from the charity stripe in Europe, including 44 percent for Partizan Belgrade last season. Note that Vesely shot a ridiculous 71 percent during Partizan's regular season last year.


this news illicits a "duh" in terms of what he should be working on, but at least he isn't prepping for a dunk contest or something.
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Re: Jan Vesely 

Post#208 » by pancakes3 » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:10 pm

Hoopalotta wrote:He also shows you a near airball free throw, an airball 3 and a number of bad passes, so it's balanced footage.


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Re: Jan Vesely 

Post#209 » by Rafael122 » Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:13 pm

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Hoopalotta wrote:He also shows you a near airball free throw, an airball 3 and a number of bad passes, so it's balanced footage.


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Post#210 » by Illuminaire » Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:00 pm

You know, 'dray is actually a pretty sweet passer to bigs when they cut. We just never seem to have any doing that...

It's possible that Vesely might accidentally make Blatche a better player on offense solely by giving him the opportunity to throw slick passes instead of making awkward behind the back dribbles into contested twenty foot jumpers.
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Post#211 » by Hoopalotta » Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:27 pm

pancakes3 wrote:
Hoopalotta wrote:He also shows you a near airball free throw, an airball 3 and a number of bad passes, so it's balanced footage.


self czech?


Well, it's cute and I could see some "we dub thee...." on a situational basis after certain games, but it wouldn't really be accurate for the above game in that he had 18 points on 9 shots, including 2 long balls and four dunks, which was good for second on the team in scoring (behind Curtis Jerrels who nailed 6-7 from beyond the stripe).

This is the boxscore: http://www.eurobasket.com/boxScores/Ser ... 0_1746.asp

He's also shown me some nice passing as well, it's just that he balances it with bad passes interspersed.
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Post#212 » by TGW » Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:56 pm

Hoop -- correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Jan second to Gist is scoring on that team?

It's funny that Jan gets attacked for his "paltry 10 ppg" but that was second on the team behind Gist, I believe. And I think Jan was infinitely more efficient.
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Post#213 » by pancakes3 » Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:35 pm

Hoopalotta wrote:
pancakes3 wrote:
Hoopalotta wrote:He also shows you a near airball free throw, an airball 3 and a number of bad passes, so it's balanced footage.


self czech?


Well, it's cute and I could see some "we dub thee...." on a situational basis after certain games, but it wouldn't really be accurate for the above game in that he had 18 points on 9 shots, including 2 long balls and four dunks, which was good for second on the team in scoring (behind Curtis Jerrels who nailed 6-7 from beyond the stripe).

This is the boxscore: http://www.eurobasket.com/boxScores/Ser ... 0_1746.asp

He's also shown me some nice passing as well, it's just that he balances it with bad passes interspersed.


yeah, i was just messing around. i don't think he's a self-check, or even DMac out there. however you can bet that's what i'll scream at my tv every time he muffs a pass off his knee
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Re: Jan Vesely 

Post#214 » by SumTingWong » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:19 pm

For those that missed it I uploaded vid of the Comcast Sportsnet report on yesterdays press conference to my youtube account...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igrH3-nbfFI[/youtube]

EDIT:

And this is Vesely's interview with Chris Miller from the same broadcast...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDwklY9SBtg&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/youtube]
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Post#215 » by Illuminaire » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:35 pm

On an unrelated note, it just occurred to me that in the months leading up to the draft, I finally picked up NBA2k11 and started a My Player.

My dude was...
..... European
..... extremely athletic
..... a great offensive rebounder and dunker
..... deadly on the fast break
..... an excellent defender
..... a mediocre shooter

After I forced a trade to the Wizards, we rolled all the way to a 5th seed in the playoffs. I'm not saying I have magical powers, I'm just saying that if we end up around the 5th seed and Jan is playing serious minutes... ok, yeah, then I have magical powers.
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Post#216 » by Hoopalotta » Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:18 am

TGW wrote:Hoop -- correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Jan second to Gist is scoring on that team?

It's funny that Jan gets attacked for his "paltry 10 ppg" but that was second on the team behind Gist, I believe. And I think Jan was infinitely more efficient.


Yeah, that's right, though Jan did outscore Gist in the Serbian League. Gist appears to have been fairly efficient overall as a stretchy four who shot a lot of 3's, but his conversion rates on the 2-points is way down from our man Ves - for all 60 games, it was 51% versus 66% though no breakdowns on specific situations there (you'd figure the .74% synergy numbers at the rim for Jan are well ahead of Gist; I forget why exactly now, but there was something about the Synergy numbers that made me think they were just for the Euroleage).

As noted, they had Gist often out beyond the stripe and I saw some sets where this was worked to facilitate Ves posting up on the left block and the big old plodding center on the right. Seemed rather effective and Jan was doing a good job passing out of the post in spots too. The enemy forces generally had to double team him here based on his size advantage against their wings (they probably would not have had to do that against their post guys).

Partizan was pretty impressive overall and I'd expect they'd be an outright buzzsaw going through NCAA teams, but the competition was not always to that level outside of the Euroleague. Hemofarm was fairly "meh" for a team playing in the finals of the Serbian League, for example.
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Re: Jan Vesely 

Post#217 » by hands11 » Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:41 am

Wall/Craw/Mack
Nick/Craw/Mack
Booker/Singleton/Jan
Dray/Lewis/Jan/Seraphin
McGee/Seraphin/Hamady

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I put Booker there just to start the season because I dont want Lewis starting with that group and Booker is the most qualified to start.

Lewis is a more rounded scorer and a vet. I would like to see him with the second group. That first group has enough scoring in Nick, Wall and Dray. They dont need Lewis. Booker adds toughness and rebounding and touch put backs in the post. Playing SF with that group, he will be fine.

Booker showed me enough toward the end of the season that I feel comfortable with him starting. What I was getting at is, I want them to play the players they need to evaluate. I hope Lewis doesnt eat up to many minutes. I would rather see more of Booker, Singleton, Jan, and Seraphin between SF and PF.

Actually, if they line them up like that, they just might win some games. That team should be able to come at you with a lot of energy. How good they are will largely depend on how much better players have gotten and how soon the new guys fit in. Jan should move up the slots quickly if he is ready. Just not putting him there to start the season. Give it a few games for him to find his feet.
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Post#218 » by nate33 » Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:48 am

Boiler isn't a small forward.
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Post#219 » by montestewart » Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:32 pm

nate33 wrote:Boiler isn't a small forward.

Remember when EJ was talking about Butler and Arvis at PF? All it takes is one clear thinker to see the possibilities that the others are missing.

Looking at the roster, the glut of names that can takes minutes at PF and even at C, along with added depth at PF, nicely sets up a consolidation trade or two involving Blatche and perhaps other pieces like Crawford, Seraphin, Booker, Mack, Hamady, picks, maybe even a resigned Young, for an upgrade at PF (better rebounder, defender, inside scorer, reliable stretch PF) or scoring wing, or even just adding a good 3+D swingman for Blatche and looking for his ideal replacement through the draft or other acquisitions.

Starting a revived Rashard at SF gives the Wall help in opening things up, but I don't mind Vesely or Singleton starting if they bring something to justify it. Booker's 1st big off the bench, only SF during oddball mismatches that (hopefully) the Wizards themselves created advantageously.
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Post#220 » by fishercob » Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:54 pm

montestewart wrote:
nate33 wrote:Boiler isn't a small forward.

Remember when EJ was talking about Butler and Arvis at PF? All it takes is one clear thinker to see the possibilities that the others are missing.

Looking at the roster, the glut of names that can takes minutes at PF and even at C, along with added depth at PF, nicely sets up a consolidation trade or two involving Blatche and perhaps other pieces like Crawford, Seraphin, Booker, Mack, Hamady, picks, maybe even a resigned Young, for an upgrade at PF (better rebounder, defender, inside scorer, reliable stretch PF) or scoring wing, or even just adding a good 3+D swingman for Blatche and looking for his ideal replacement through the draft or other acquisitions.

Starting a revived Rashard at SF gives the Wall help in opening things up, but I don't mind Vesely or Singleton starting if they bring something to justify it. Booker's 1st big off the bench, only SF during oddball mismatches that (hopefully) the Wizards themselves created advantageously.


Yep, in a year and a half when the Hawks have fallen flat, Joe Johnson has been amnesty'd and Al Horford is begging his way out of town, we'll be able to put a nice package together.
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