Discussing Other Teams' Moves

Post #261 » by **LyricalRico** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:20 pm

^ You mean the same Ted that said he wasn't trading Arenas? :wink:

"A nobleman is nothing more than a man who says one thing, and thinks another." - Anthony Hopkins character in Mask of Zorro

closg00 · Post #262 » by **closg00** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:57 am

ESPN The Magazine released its ‘The Ultimate Standings’ rankings for 2011 today and the San Antonio Spurs were named the top NBA franchise and the fifth-best professional team out of 122 total teams from the NBA, NFL, NHL and MLB franchises. The Spurs have ranked as the top NBA franchise six times and is the only franchise to have been named the top overall team twice among the four major sports since ESPN introduced its annual survey in 2003. "It is with great pride that we congratulate the San Antonio Spurs for being ranked as ESPN The Magazine's top NBA franchise for the sixth time," said NBA Commissioner David Stern. "San Antonio's commitment to excellence starts with owner Peter Holt, is instilled in every member of the organization, and makes the Spurs a model franchise both on and off the court."

http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/espn_rankings_110615

For Raf :wink:

mhd · Post #263 » by **mhd** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:37 am

Spurs shopping Parker for a lotto pick. Posted this trade on the trade board:

Spurs trade Parker for SJAX+Diop+Fields+9
Bobcats trade Diop+SJAX+9 for 17+Billups
Knicks trade: Fields+Billups+17 for Parker

Bobcats save 17 million to drop 8 spots. Knicks want to win now. Spurs get lotto pick and SJAX who helps right away.

fishercob · Post #264 » by **fishercob** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:39 am

mhd wrote:Spurs shopping Parker for a lotto pick. Posted this trade on the trade board:

Spurs trade Parker for SJAX+Diop+Fields+9
Bobcats trade Diop+SJAX+9 for 17+Billups
Knicks trade: Fields+Billups+17 for Parker

Bobcats save 17 million to drop 8 spots. Knicks want to win now. Spurs get lotto pick and SJAX who helps right away.

Can the Spurs take on that kind of long term money?

mhd · Post #265 » by **mhd** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:49 am

fishercob wrote:
mhd wrote:Spurs shopping Parker for a lotto pick. Posted this trade on the trade board:

Spurs trade Parker for SJAX+Diop+Fields+9
Bobcats trade Diop+SJAX+9 for 17+Billups
Knicks trade: Fields+Billups+17 for Parker

Bobcats save 17 million to drop 8 spots. Knicks want to win now. Spurs get lotto pick and SJAX who helps right away.

Can the Spurs take on that kind of long term money?

Well, Parker is signed for 4 more years, so they actually SAVE money in this deal because Diop and SJAX expire 2 years sooner. Say Walker drops to 9 (a possibility according to WOJ):

PG: Hill/Walker
SG: Manu/Anderson
SF: SJAX/Jefferson/Fields
PF: McDyess/Bonner/Blair
C: Duncan/Splitter

I'd try and trade Fields for a bigman, but he's makes so little, that its hard.

dangermouse · Post #266 » by **dangermouse** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:26 am

Pops would love Fields but i think they would rather a big coming back.

Post #267 » by **LyricalRico** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:48 pm

I don't think the Spurs would want to have that much cash tied up in their SF position, mhd. I also think they'd be trading up for a big, not another guard.

I posted in the draft thread that I think they could be after Valanciunas. Duncan has a year left on his deal, so they can wait for him to come over. When he does, they can try to groom another twin towers situation with him and Splitter (assuming one of them can play PF).

If I'm right, they are probably looking at dealing with Cleveland at 4 or Toronto at 5. Both need point guards and IIRC both still have their near-max TPE's from last summer.

no D in Hibachi · Post #268 » by **no D in Hibachi** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:08 pm

Big three way trade Sac-Bucks-Char

Char gets: Maggette #7
Bucks get: Udrih, Jackson, #19
Sacto get: Salmons, #10

Cho works magic on this one. Maggette and Jackson have the same size contract. Jacksons good, but not in their future, Maggette blows, but they take on no salary.

What is Sacramento thinking. Udrih expires in two years and is useful. Salmons blows and is under contract for gulp, 4 more years. All the while droping 3 picks.

closg00 · Post #269 » by **closg00** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:54 pm

no D in Hibachi wrote:Big three way trade Sac-Bucks-Char

Char gets: Maggette #7
Bucks get: Udrih, Jackson, #19
Sacto get: Salmons, #10

Cho works magic on this one. Maggette and Jackson have the same size contract. Jacksons good, but not in their future, Maggette blows, but they take on no salary.

What is Sacramento thinking. Udrih expires in two years and is useful. Salmons blows and is under contract for gulp, 4 more years. All the while droping 3 picks.

Way to make a splash, two good GM's run-out by the Blazer jerk owner.

Post #270 » by **LyricalRico** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:45 am

Former New York Knicks president Dave Checketts is serving as a basketball consultant to new Detroit Pistons owner Tom Gores, according to sources close to the situation.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=6709060

The beginning of the end for Dumars?

verbal8 · Post #271 » by **verbal8** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:05 pm

I can't find the D-League thread, but it looks like the Wizards need a new D-League affiliate.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... California

closg00 · Post #272 » by **closg00** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:11 pm

verbal8 wrote:I can't find the D-League thread, but it looks like the Wizards need a new D-League affiliate.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... California

Yeah, will dig it up, wonder how this will affect our D-Leaguers.

verbal8 · Post #273 » by **verbal8** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:57 pm

The Blazers make a qualifying offer to Oden.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... Oden_Mills

closg00 · Post #274 » by **closg00** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:18 pm

verbal8 wrote:The Blazers make a qualifying offer to Oden.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... Oden_Mills

Show's you how desperate teams are for quality bigs. The Blazers have gone this-far with Oden, may as-well toss another $8 mil Oden's way...at-least he'll have extra time for rehab

TGW · Post #275 » by **TGW** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:17 pm

Looks like JJ Hickson to Kings for Omri Casspi and a future first.

One less team that won't be interested in Blatche.

closg00 · Post #276 » by **closg00** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:58 pm

TGW wrote:Looks like JJ Hickson to Kings for Omri Casspi and a future first.

One less team that won't be interested in Blatche.

Nice, they've been wanting to dump JJ for a while now, Casspi should get more playing time with the Cavs.

Post #277 » by **LyricalRico** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:57 pm

I really like that for Cleveland, although they look like even bigger idiots now for sacrificing a chance to get Amare because they wanted to hold onto Hickson. Be that as it may, Casspi gives them a young wing player to develop. No star potential IMO, but he's still an upgrade IMO and probably a starter.

I think this deal also means that they will be keeping Jamison and that he probably starts at PF for them while Tristan Thompson develops. At least that's what I would do.

How about this for a follow-up: Baron Davis to Charlotte for Diop+Carroll+Najera. Cleveland gets some 2012 salary relief and diffuses a logjam at the PG spot, while Charlotte gives up scraps on the chance that BDiddy can be productive again under Paul Silas.

Verajao/Hollins
Jamison/Thompson
Casspi/Graham
Eyenga/Gibson
Irving/Sessions

Still a lottery team but definitely moving in the right direction.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #278 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:53 pm

Cleveland has to move Baron, for sure, LR.

My initial reaction to the Hickson deal is that Sacramento is getting it done. My goodness are they stockpiling young guys with game. Hickson is 22 years old--a full two years younger than Blatche, and months younger than Javale. I would rate Hickson a better rebounder and a slightly better shooter and more athletic player than Andray Blatche. Blatche is bigger, able to play some C, a better passer, and more versatile. I think Andray's a little better right now than Hickson--but not by much.

I love the deal for Cleveland, because they clear playing time for Thompson and also get multiple picks, plus a crowd-pleasing player, Casspi. Omri is what LR says, a wing player to develop, a sixth-man type.

I bet the Cavs end up moving Jamison to SF and starting Thompson ahead of Casspi. You don't burn a #4 pick on a non-starter.

Post #279 » by **montestewart** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:56 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Cleveland has to move Baron, for sure, LR.
I bet the Cavs end up moving Jamison to SF and starting Thompson ahead of Casspi. You don't burn a #4 pick on a non-starter.

Or maybe Jamison finally returns to the 6th man role, as has been talked about for many years. Provides instant scoring and rebounding while being able to selectively insert to mask his defensive deficiencies.

Post #280 » by **LyricalRico** » Mon Jul 4, 2011 12:51 pm

Does this work?

Hornets trade: Paul, Okafor, and Ariza
Hornets receive: J.Smith, Teague, Iguodala, Speights, Nocioni, and 3 ATL firsts

Sixers trade: Iguodala, Speights, and Nocioni
Sixers receive: Okafor and Hinrich

Hawks trade: J.Smith, Hinrich, Teague, and 2013/2015/2017 firsts
Hawks receive: Paul and Ariza

TRADE ID 5914676

Overall, I think it's a solid package for NOH, but ATL seems to be getting Paul too easily. Still, I think it balances every body out.

FA/Anderson
Smith/Speights
Iggy/Nocioni
FA/Pondexter
Jack/Teague

Okafor/Hawes
Brand/Brackins
Young(?)/Turner
Meeks/Williams
Holiday/Hinrich

Pachulia/FA
Horford/Rolle
Ariza/Williams
Johnson/Sy
Paul/FA