2011 Minor Leagues/Prospect Discussion Thread Pt II

[Schad]

I'd rather keep Molina, simply because he seems the sort to have less 'name' value in trade, but potentially more value on the field. Little odd that Callis misses Molina's best pitch in that repertoire...his nasty splitter. Unless he's referring to it as a split-change, but as far as I know he throws both; the splitter harder and with more bite, the change in the bottom 80s.

[Homer Jay]

I'd rather keep Molina, simply because he seems the sort to have less 'name' value in trade, but potentially more value on the field. Little odd that Callis misses Molina's best pitch in that repertoire...his nasty splitter. Unless he's referring to it as a split-change, but as far as I know he throws both; the splitter harder and with more bite, the change in the bottom 80s.

Sounds like good closer material.... realistically he is what 2-3 years away?

[Schad]

I'd rather keep Molina, simply because he seems the sort to have less 'name' value in trade, but potentially more value on the field. Little odd that Callis misses Molina's best pitch in that repertoire...his nasty splitter. Unless he's referring to it as a split-change, but as far as I know he throws both; the splitter harder and with more bite, the change in the bottom 80s.

Sounds like good closer material.... realistically he is what 2-3 years away?

I'd expect Molina to get here by sometime next year, if he continues apace. The bullpen is certainly a possibility, but it'd be a waste if he can hack it throwing 90-100 pitches a night. 92-94 with an out pitch (or two) and pinpoint control belongs in the rotation.

[torontoaces04]

I'd rather keep Molina, simply because he seems the sort to have less 'name' value in trade, but potentially more value on the field. Little odd that Callis misses Molina's best pitch in that repertoire...his nasty splitter. Unless he's referring to it as a split-change, but as far as I know he throws both; the splitter harder and with more bite, the change in the bottom 80s.

Sounds like good closer material.... realistically he is what 2-3 years away?

I would say if he stays on his current track, more like next September call-up.

I don't think he has a closers makeup at all, more along the lines of a Shaun Marcum light at this point. Molina throws 4 pitches consistently, locating all 4 very well. Along with the devastating splitter which Schad just mentioned, he is one of the guys I think we'll see the quickest.

[vaff87]

Sounds like good closer material.... realistically he is what 2-3 years away?

I'd expect Molina to get here by sometime next year, if he continues apace. The bullpen is certainly a possibility, but it'd be a waste if he can hack it throwing 90-100 pitches a night. 92-94 with an out pitch (or two) and pinpoint control belongs in the rotation.

I think people still underrate this guy a bit. I figure the fact that he came out of nowhere, makes it hard for people to believe he's truly as good as he's been.

[SharoneWright]

This isn't to say he couldn't be a good pitcher in the AL East, but with a perceived lower upside than other system arms, wouldn't Nestor Molina be perfect trade bait?

Smarter to trade perceived higher upside.

[Hoopstarr]

Comment From Garold
How good is Jake Marisnik?

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Marc Hulet: Perhaps the best hitting prospect in the Midwest League.

Riverside, ****! That's my favorite prospect in the system. He was all tools coming in and he's answering questions about whether he'd put it all together.

[Weems]

This isn't to say he couldn't be a good pitcher in the AL East, but with a perceived lower upside than other system arms, wouldn't Nestor Molina be perfect trade bait?

Smarter to trade perceived higher upside.

Not if the perception is widely understood and they're valued equally. :shrug:

I don't know though, maybe he does have legit put out stuff and ground ball capability to go along with the control. He repertoire sounds awesome. I figured he was more advanced than his competition and was beating them more with control... lazy.

[Schad]

Not if the perception is widely understood and they're valued equally. :shrug:

I don't know though, maybe he does have legit put out stuff and ground ball capability to go along with the control. He repertoire sounds awesome. I figured he was more advanced than his competition and was beating them more with control... lazy.

What makes it remarkable is that he shouldn't be more advanced; not only is age 22 around benchmark for his current level, dude only started pitching in 2008, and still has less than 300 professional innings under his belt. While I agree that he probably won't be overpowering in the bigs, three or more above-average offerings (one of which collects whiffs) and plus control gets you places.

[TheBunk]

I shouldn't be skeptical about scouting reports on Molina from reputable writers but somehow, I still am. Like Schad said, he's age appropriate for the AA and posting GREAT K, BB and GB rates. He could be a special case and simply have an incredible amount of savy but I have an inkling that he's better than he's been reported.

[Trilogy]

Drabek gets shelled, again.

3.0IP 8H 9ER 4BB 4SO 3:1GO:FO

I still have faith in him, but I think he may as well be done for this year.

[MGD24]

The Blue Jays announced the signings of seven international free agents: Roberto Osuna, Wuilmer Becerra, Jesus Gonzalez, Manuel Cordova, Alberto Tirado, Jairo Labourt, and Yeyfry Del Rosario.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/08/blue-jays-sign-osuna-becerra.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[SharoneWright]

The Blue Jays announced the signings of seven international free agents: Roberto Osuna, Wuilmer Becerra, Jesus Gonzalez, Manuel Cordova, Alberto Tirado, Jairo Labourt, and Yeyfry Del Rosario.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/08/blue-jays-sign-osuna-becerra.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Out with the Beede, in with the Intn'l FA crop...

[Fairview4Life]

The Blue Jays announced the signings of seven international free agents: Roberto Osuna, Wuilmer Becerra, Jesus Gonzalez, Manuel Cordova, Alberto Tirado, Jairo Labourt, and Yeyfry Del Rosario.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/08/blue-jays-sign-osuna-becerra.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Out with the Beede, in with the Intn'l FA crop...

It's been a little while now people, where are my detailed scouting reports?

[Wally West]

JaysProspects Jays Prospects
#JaysProspects selected for the Arizona Fall League: Anthony Gose, Adeiny Hechavarria, Yan Gomes, Evan Crawford, and Aaron Loup. #BlueJays

[Homer Jay]

JaysProspects Jays Prospects
#JaysProspects selected for the Arizona Fall League: Anthony Gose, Adeiny Hechavarria, Yan Gomes, Evan Crawford, and Aaron Loup. #BlueJays

D'Arnaud getting some MLB team, maybe?

[JoeyBats]

JaysProspects Jays Prospects
#JaysProspects selected for the Arizona Fall League: Anthony Gose, Adeiny Hechavarria, Yan Gomes, Evan Crawford, and Aaron Loup. #BlueJays

Excited to see their defense when they get called up

[BigLeagueChew]

who gets called up for september callups ? I'd like to see sierra, cooper, hech and mcgowan

[Lateral Quicks]

who gets called up for september callups ? I'd like to see sierra, cooper, hech and mcgowan

I expect Cooper and McGowan.

I hope for d'Arnaud.

I doubt Hech or Sierra get the call. I could see a guy like Farquhar getting a shot. Some guys thought likely to be callups are already here, in Carreno and Alvarez.

Sierra tailed off this season, and I think he repeats AA next year. A .750 OPS won't cut it. Hopefully he has a great first couple months to earn the early promotion to AAA.

[baulderdash77]

I think Farquhar will be up tomorrow honestly with the BP meltdown and some injuries.

Drabek will be back up and so will Cooper and McGowan.

I think it's 50/50 on Hech. It's an option year anyways so we might as well bring him up.