OT: P90X/Health and Fitness Thread

jimmybones · Post #821 » by **jimmybones** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:48 pm

Well to be fair the diet soda does allow more calories. But as you mentioned there are other issues such as cravings. In a vacuum, the diet soda is better for weight loss, but if you develop cravings for sugar and eat a candy bar to make up for it then you aren't any better off and potentially worse off.

Post #822 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:55 am

Grilled turkey burgers tonight. :-?

stellation · Post #823 » by **stellation** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:20 am

AussieBuck wrote:As far as food weaknesses I eat chocolate like an obese woman. I've put on 5KG over the last 3 months.

We never would have drafted you if you weren't Brandon's friend.

Nebula1 · Post #824 » by **Nebula1** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:27 am

I just think it's generally safer to avoid soda of any kind. These companies do not have your health in mind and in fact, there are several companies that benefit from the poor health of the masses. There is a very questionable link to subsidies for foods that result in weight gain and poor health. You have to read the labels.

There are several beverage options, but best is still water. Gatorade G2 isn't bad for the reduction of sugar, Propel and Vitamin Water and the sort. Also Tropicana and other juicers have reduced sugar options. I drink quite a bit of the calcium enriched Trop 50, which has half the sugar and calories.

http://www.tropicana.com/#/trop_home/ho ... 0/home.swf

AussieBuck · Post #825 » by **AussieBuck** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:01 am

stellation wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:As far as food weaknesses I eat chocolate like an obese woman. I've put on 5KG over the last 3 months.

We never would have drafted you if you weren't Brandon's friend.

187cm
76kg

I'm also semi-literate so that's three strikes for your Tines theory.

jerrod · Post #826 » by **jerrod** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:44 pm

AussieBuck wrote:
187cm
76kg

i feel like such an idiot right now, :lol:

AussieBuck · Post #827 » by **AussieBuck** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:00 pm

jerrod wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:
187cm
76kg

i feel like such an idiot right now,

Why?

jerrod · Post #828 » by **jerrod** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:07 pm

i'm not totally sure if you're a midget or a sumo wrestler

AussieBuck · Post #829 » by **AussieBuck** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:09 pm

jerrod wrote:i'm not totally sure if you're a midget or a sumo wrestler

6'1 1/2
167

Similar to Jennings' listed size which is pretty lol as I'm much bigger than him.

RiotPunch · Post #830 » by **RiotPunch** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:19 pm

DrugBust wrote:Grilled turkey burgers tonight.

Ground turkey burgers are a good substitute for ground beef burgers, imo. They're not too bad.

jimmybones · Post #831 » by **jimmybones** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:52 pm

Lyle McDonald sums up calories in vs calories out better than I did:

Once again, my point is that if calories are being strictly controlled, the source doesn’t appear to make a humongous difference in terms of body composition changes. As well, once you get protein intake to proper levels, fooling around with carbohydate and fat ratios (within the context of identical caloric intakes) don’t seem to make a huge amount of difference either. The bottom line still comes down to calories in versus calories out; it’s simply that it may be easier to affect calories in (food intake) or calories out (through activity) with different macronutrient breakdowns.

As well, the source of calories can affect other aspects of physiology beyond body composition. Health, energy levels, hunger/appetite and all the rest interact here. So while a calorie controlled diet of jelly beans, butter and protein powder might very well work to lose weight/fat, it probably wouldn’t be as healthy compared to a diet of low GI carbohydrates, healthier oils and lean protein sources.

Understand me here? Issues such as hunger control, long-term adherence, individual variance, athletic performance, and a few others all go into the determination of what food might or might not be a better choice under a given set of circumstances. So while a calorie might be more or less a calorie under somewhat artificial conditions (where calories are or can be strictly controlled), it’s a little more complex than that in the real world. Other issues interact. The next few chapters will adress those other issues.

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/is-a-calorie-a-calorie.html

Nebula1 · Post #832 » by **Nebula1** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:09 pm

Big fan of salmon and seafoods for protein.

jerrod · Post #833 » by **jerrod** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:49 pm

AussieBuck wrote:
jerrod wrote:i'm not totally sure if you're a midget or a sumo wrestler

6'1 1/2
167

damn, i'm kinda fat but you're just slightly taller and nearly 40 pounds lighter

Newz · Post #834 » by **Newz** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:16 pm

AussieBuck wrote:
jerrod wrote:i'm not totally sure if you're a midget or a sumo wrestler

6'1 1/2
167

Similar to Jennings' listed size which is pretty lol as I'm much bigger than him.

I am a really skinny person. I walked by Jennings one day going into a Mexican restaurant and my co-workers didn't believe it was him because he is actually skinnier than I am.

It shocks me he is able to stay as healthy as he does in the NBA. I get banged up pretty bad playing pick up ball once every week or two. I know he's a professional athlete, but when you are that skinny getting banged around by guys that are almost twice your size, that has to take its toll on you.

He needs to bulk up.... so do I.

emunney · Post #835 » by **emunney** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:25 pm

The NBA is full of super skinny guys. Guys with normal athletic height/weight ratios look like bodybuilders on an NBA court.

Or look at a guy like Tiny Gallon, who was enormously fat by NBA standards, but lighter and taller than most O-linemen.

Nebula1 · Post #836 » by **Nebula1** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:30 pm

There are some fairly ripped dudes in the NBA. Obviously it takes a different kind of body to compete in the different sports.

AussieBuck · Post #837 » by **AussieBuck** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:44 pm

Newz wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:
jerrod wrote:i'm not totally sure if you're a midget or a sumo wrestler

6'1 1/2
167

Similar to Jennings' listed size which is pretty lol as I'm much bigger than him.

I am a really skinny person. I walked by Jennings one day going into a Mexican restaurant and my co-workers didn't believe it was him because he is actually skinnier than I am.

It shocks me he is able to stay as healthy as he does in the NBA. I get banged up pretty bad playing pick up ball once every week or two. I know he's a professional athlete, but when you are that skinny getting banged around by guys that are almost twice your size, that has to take its toll on you.

He needs to bulk up.... so do I.

Yeah it's no surprise he fades left on all of his contested layups. I know when I play against a team full of Maori's I feel damn sore the next day. :lol:

Assuming I actually get back to proper training I'm looking to box at 154. I've gotten down to 158 before and maintained my strength so I think I can do it.

Mags FTW · Post #838 » by **Mags FTW** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:43 pm

So after my big spring/early summer drop from about 220 to 189, I've plateaued at 292. I'm doing Al's Run this morning, resting tomorrow, and then committing to getting back on the horse on Monday.

JoeyMorgan619 · Post #839 » by **JoeyMorgan619** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:24 pm

Here's a different type of push-up to try. It's pretty easy if you can knock out 25-30 regular push-ups.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je02HEWB ... ideo_title

Badgerlander · Post #840 » by **Badgerlander** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:01 pm

http://www.muscleandfitness.com/feature ... s-predator
The Predator Workout in Muscle And Fitness Mag