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Re: Top 5 Prospects for 2012 NBA Draft 

Post#161 » by JamesNaismith » Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:52 am

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Geaux_Hawks wrote:Would anybody argue that Anthony Davis is now the consensus #1 pick over Drummond? I still would take Drummond simply because of the drought at the 5, but I think Davis is really the most talented and complete prospect. A team already set at PF would do otherwise, but a team like Detroit or Toronto would probably serve better taking Davis.



If Davis and Drummond are the top two talents on the board when raps aren't going to worry about position but draft bpa.

With Val taking the 5 spot either Davis or Drummond would be PF majority of time.


I actually don't agree because I think it will become a justification of best "potential" available....I do believe that Davis at his potential is a better player then Okafor but I liken the decision to Howard over Okafor....I don't care how good Davis looks in college, if Drummond appears to be even close to being on par he's going to get selected by almost any team; no questions asked.

If we're talking about the Raptors in particular, I'm sorry but there's NO WAY Colangelo would take Davis over Drummond. You mention Val (who's yet to play a single game for the Raps) but completely leave out Bargnani who BC has shown an unwavering devotion to and will enter the first of his very unappealing 5yr contract. Nvm already having Ed Davis and Amir there....so you can bet the farm that Colangelo would take his shot pairing him with a potential C especially with how thin that position is on that roster.

Whether Drummond plays like Amare or not (offensively: key word), the fact is he is already bigger then him, plays better defence and is likely to be on par with Howard's weight when he is already taller then him and Amare....no teams ever pass on the next potential "great" big man (ie/ center)....imo he would be used just as much a PF as Tim Duncan; which is offensively like PF but defensively like a C.
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Post#162 » by Justwar » Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:35 am

People are clueless to how good Anthony Davis could be. He has every bit of the potential of Drummond. He can be the new prototype that people could compare people with
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Re: Top 5 Prospects for 2012 NBA Draft 

Post#163 » by ManualRam » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:49 am

Justwar wrote:People are clueless to how good Anthony Davis could be. He has every bit of the potential of Drummond. He can be the new prototype that people could compare people with

No he doesnt. Drummond's sheer size, and athleticism at his size, gives him a higher potential.
However I will say that given ant's drive and ability to learn quickly, he has a better chance of reaching his potential.
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Post#164 » by roc » Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:43 pm

Geaux_Hawks wrote:Would anybody argue that Anthony Davis is now the consensus #1 pick over Drummond? I still would take Drummond simply because of the drought at the 5, but I think Davis is really the most talented and complete prospect. A team already set at PF would do otherwise, but a team like Detroit or Toronto would probably serve better taking Davis.

As a Piston fan I would be pissed if both were available to choose from and we didn't take Drummond. That is no slight against Davis at all. Just that guys of Drummond's size and potential are pretty damn rare so I would have to pick him 1st.
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Post#165 » by theboomking » Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:44 pm

Who are the top 5 prospects in the 2012 draft and 2013 draft if the NBA imposes a minimum age of 20 years? I think it is pretty likely that this change is implemented. What do you guys think that likelihood is?
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Post#166 » by JamesNaismith » Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:13 pm

theboomking wrote:Who are the top 5 prospects in the 2012 draft and 2013 draft if the NBA imposes a minimum age of 20 years? I think it is pretty likely that this change is implemented. What do you guys think that likelihood is?


Why do you think that?

I've never read that as being an issue preventing an agreement....only that it was a suggestion at one point.
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Post#167 » by Ruzious » Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:27 pm

theboomking wrote:Who are the top 5 prospects in the 2012 draft and 2013 draft if the NBA imposes a minimum age of 20 years? I think it is pretty likely that this change is implemented. What do you guys think that likelihood is?

Making a statement like that - you gotta tell us why you think that's going to happen. It would f up the 2012 draft.
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Re: Top 5 Prospects for 2012 NBA Draft 

Post#168 » by bigboi » Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:00 am

Jeremy Lamb is officially the 2nd best prospect in my book. I'm telling you guys he's the KD of shooting guards. But what's up with Uconn and Drummond, did he do something bad because he didn't even start and his teammates seemed like he didn't even want to pass the ball to him. Also that broken nose might hinder his play.
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Post#169 » by jemstar » Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:03 am

bigboi wrote:Jeremy Lamb is officially the 2nd best prospect in my book. I'm telling you guys he's the KD of shooting guards. But what's up with Uconn and Drummond, did he do something bad because he didn't even start and his teammates seemed like he didn't even want to pass the ball to him. Also that broken nose might hinder his play.


He hasn't started through 3 games, Tyler Olander obviously isn't half the prospect that Drummond is but he's much improved and hustles his ass off. Drummond just didn't play well at all. J Lamb is ridiculous though, I know everyone is drooling over Drummond but Lamb is easily their best player and everything is going to run through him, him and Shabazz Napier are going to be a great backcourt.
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Post#170 » by #1 pick » Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:11 am

bigboi wrote:Jeremy Lamb is officially the 2nd best prospect in my book. I'm telling you guys he's the KD of shooting guards. But what's up with Uconn and Drummond, did he do something bad because he didn't even start and his teammates seemed like he didn't even want to pass the ball to him. Also that broken nose might hinder his play.

He's just not that good. He needs a lot of polish. A lot. He really needs two to three years at the LEAST.
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Post#171 » by bigboi » Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:11 am

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bigboi wrote:Jeremy Lamb is officially the 2nd best prospect in my book. I'm telling you guys he's the KD of shooting guards. But what's up with Uconn and Drummond, did he do something bad because he didn't even start and his teammates seemed like he didn't even want to pass the ball to him. Also that broken nose might hinder his play.


He hasn't started through 3 games, Tyler Olander obviously isn't half the prospect that Drummond is but he's much improved and hustles his ass off. Drummond just didn't play well at all. J Lamb is ridiculous though, I know everyone is drooling over Drummond but Lamb is easily their best player and everything is going to run through him, him and Shabazz Napier are going to be a great backcourt.

The offense didn't give Drummond any touches, but I think by the end of the season he takes the starting spot and goes crazy in the NCAA tournament. But like I said Jeremy Lamb is the KD of shooting guards, he will become the next best shooting guard.
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Re: Top 5 Prospects for 2012 NBA Draft 

Post#172 » by #1 pick » Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:14 am

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bigboi wrote:Jeremy Lamb is officially the 2nd best prospect in my book. I'm telling you guys he's the KD of shooting guards. But what's up with Uconn and Drummond, did he do something bad because he didn't even start and his teammates seemed like he didn't even want to pass the ball to him. Also that broken nose might hinder his play.


He hasn't started through 3 games, Tyler Olander obviously isn't half the prospect that Drummond is but he's much improved and hustles his ass off. Drummond just didn't play well at all. J Lamb is ridiculous though, I know everyone is drooling over Drummond but Lamb is easily their best player and everything is going to run through him, him and Shabazz Napier are going to be a great backcourt.

The offense didn't give Drummond any touches, but I think by the end of the season he takes the starting spot and goes crazy in the NCAA tournament. But like I said Jeremy Lamb is the KD of shooting guards, he will become the next best shooting guard.


He really didn't fight for position. He's a work in progress in the post. This isn't the NBA. You must learn how to get open in the post. College game is so much more complex than HS. They did look for him in the post, he just didn't have position.
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Post#173 » by bigboi » Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:19 am

He really didn't fight for position. He's a work in progress in the post. This isn't the NBA. You must learn how to get open in the post. College game is so much more complex than HS. They did look for him in the post, he just didn't have position.[/quote]
He's a face up player, I don't see why they only look for him in the post. Let's just see how he does as the season progresses, all I know is he Is definately not coming back to Uconn next year.
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Post#174 » by #1 pick » Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:30 am

bigboi wrote:He's a face up player, I don't see why they only look for him in the post. Let's just see how he does as the season progresses, all I know is he Is definately not coming back to Uconn next year.

He's not going to be a faceup player in college or the NBA. He just doesn't have those type of handles in this type of sitiuation. He needs to come back to college even moreso than Perry Jones did. He's not a good enough scorer, not smart enough, and handles aren't great enough to make him a legit faceup player at this level. He needs to learn how to play with his back to the basket especially given his natural footwork that most aren't blessed with.

I don't see that changing. I had wonders if he was going to be a better player than DeAndre Jordan as a Freshman. I think he just so much more talented that he should easily be a lot better but not greatly better.
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Post#175 » by bigboi » Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:37 am

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bigboi wrote:He's a face up player, I don't see why they only look for him in the post. Let's just see how he does as the season progresses, all I know is he Is definately not coming back to Uconn next year.

He's not going to be a faceup player in college or the NBA. He just doesn't have those type of handles in this type of sitiuation. He needs to come back to college even moreso than Perry Jones did. He's not a good enough scorer, not smart enough, and handles aren't great enough to make him a legit faceup player at this level. He needs to learn how to play with his back to the basket especially given his natural footwork that most aren't blessed with.

I don't see that changing. I had wonders if he was going to be a better player than DeAndre Jordan as a Freshman. I think he just so much more talented that he should easily be a lot better but not greatly better.

Woah, he has excellent handles for a big and he is going to be a faceup player in the NBA, that's one of the major reasons why he is compared to Amare. You can say his Bball iq isn't great yet, but saying he can't score is just crazy.
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Re: Top 5 Prospects for 2012 NBA Draft 

Post#176 » by 7-Day Dray » Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:46 am

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bigboi wrote:He's a face up player, I don't see why they only look for him in the post. Let's just see how he does as the season progresses, all I know is he Is definately not coming back to Uconn next year.

He's not going to be a faceup player in college or the NBA. He just doesn't have those type of handles in this type of sitiuation. He needs to come back to college even moreso than Perry Jones did. He's not a good enough scorer, not smart enough, and handles aren't great enough to make him a legit faceup player at this level. He needs to learn how to play with his back to the basket especially given his natural footwork that most aren't blessed with.

I don't see that changing. I had wonders if he was going to be a better player than DeAndre Jordan as a Freshman. I think he just so much more talented that he should easily be a lot better but not greatly better.


I agree with this. His handles probably looked good in his YouTube mixes, but his handle's aren't good enough to be a primary faceup player in the NCAA or NBA. He needs to learn how to gain position in the post and use his physical tools to his advantage.
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Post#177 » by 5DOM » Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:56 am

Also think Lamb is gonna go high in the draft
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Post#178 » by bigboi » Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:57 am

But did you guys notice Drummond's lack of enthusiasm. I think that's the biggest problem of his game, sometimes he is incredibly nonchalant and doesn't give it his all. I think that hit on his nose is going to give him a wake up call and beast mode
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Post#179 » by #1 pick » Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:02 am

bigboi wrote:But did you guys notice Drummond's lack of enthusiasm. I think that's the biggest problem of his game, sometimes he is incredibly nonchalant and doesn't give it his all. I think that hit on his nose is going to give him a wake up call and beast mode

He had this issue in HS as well especially when things aren't going his way.
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Post#180 » by Kaner » Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:04 am

5DOM wrote:Also think Lamb is gonna go high in the draft



if he plays like he did tonight consistently, than yes...he was so efficient on offense, and has great defensive awareness, and long arms. 11-17 FG, 5-8 3 pt FG, 4 steals, 28 points.. definitely beast mode
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