Knicks leaders for Tyson Chandler??? WOW

knicksosmoove · Post #1921 » by **knicksosmoove** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:54 am

honestly, the writing was on the wall here. I have been pro-CP3 all summer, but it was pretty obvious once word came out about all the money he was going to lose that it was going to be a SERIOUS hassle to get him, if possible at all.

I'm over it. dk7th has been preaching this a while, but champion teams run the offense through all their players, not just one. I never believed that Chris Paul would completely hinder Carmelo and Amar'e from becoming better play makers, but now the onus is really on them. We could be a better team because of this. We'll probably go triangle or something like that unless Baron comes, and even then we'll probably play a lot of triangle.

This is fine, this is good even. It's too bad we don't get to see CP3 in a Knicks uniform, but these next few seasons don't need to be wasted on trade rumors.

Post #1922 » by **mpharris36** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:54 am

TD is good and young i don't understand the hate....Melo and Amare are good 1 on 1 guys anyways we don't need a great facilitator to be honest

Post #1923 » by **GONYK** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:54 am

mpharris36 wrote:
GONYK wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:remember guys by not getting CP3 we still have all our depth. TD, Shumpert, Fields. Turiaf is getting traded and we could trade one of those guys for a comperable PG

Turiaf is getting traded for nothing.

I would have really hoped we could flip TD for a real PG, but I lost the ability to hope 6 hours ago.

Why are u so mad?

We have one of the best rebounding teams in the nba now. Our defense just jumped way up....all we are going to do is need to replace billups which shouldn't be that hard...he checked out anyways.

Turiaf will get us something..,he is a quality backup C for a decent contract

I'm not mad. I'm realistic. We addressed a weakness for sure, but we torpedoed our offensive efficiency in the process.

And Turiaf is just getting traded for capspace.

Lord Commander · Post #1924 » by **Lord Commander** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:55 am

Dwight is going to the Lakers, I fear. Teams always bend over for the Lakers, Yankees and to a slightly lesser degree, the Phillies.

Jay10 · Post #1925 » by **Jay10** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:55 am

espn 710 AM, john ireland said he heard from a source dwight might be on the lakers in 48 hrs

Sprewell4Three · Post #1926 » by **Sprewell4Three** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:55 am

KnicksGod wrote:Barea and Shump can run this better than Billups anyway.

Exactly!

Sorry guys but Billups is OLDER than Jesse Jackson's perm...

The guy played no D and on top of that shot 3's like a mad man..

DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!

Chandler is only 29 , he's still in his prime!
WE NEEDED A CENTER GUYS more so than a PG

robinsoncano · Post #1927 » by **robinsoncano** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:55 am

god shammgod wrote:here's a crazy idea. say bynum for howard is unrealistic. if you're la, would you trade kobe to get dwight. gives orlando someone who will fill the arena. you can still trade bynum for another piece and you've completely rebuilt the team into a contender for years.

bynum for howard isn't unrealistic, its the lakers man.

Shemy · Post #1928 » by **Shemy** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:55 am

johnnywishbone wrote:
SoCalKnickFan wrote:Lamar Kardashians wife just threw up in her mouth.

Why?

Khloe Karashian is big and easy. New Orleans is the big easy. Marriage made in heaven.

Khloe might be the only normal one from that family lol

Jay10 · Post #1929 » by **Jay10** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:56 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
DocZaius wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/09/sports/basketball/carmelo-anthony-chauncey-billups-knicks.html?_r=1&ref=sports

what the fawk did I just read?

You just read trade Melo for Deron Williams, since Melo is overrated.

basically code for deron will leave the nets and they need carmelo to be the face of their team once they move brooklyn

KnicksFan007 · Post #1930 » by **KnicksFan007** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:56 am

SRTtoZ wrote:
robbysteinz wrote:Douglas is the man. I'll roll with a hard-nosed PG any day of the week until Shumps ready. Melo gonna hog the ball anyway lol

Just no. Did you see TD at PG last year? The dude has zero vision, Billups was so much better at moving the ball around but he was also a chucker, we need a solid PG and hope we can get one somehow.

Chauncey chucked the hell out of the ball too. TD's vision improved during that end of the season with that 7 game win streak.

He didn't do too bad against Boston. The defense against Rondo was more so the problem but he had two badly hurt shoulders. I can't hold it against him.

KnicksScholar24 · Post #1931 » by **KnicksScholar24** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:56 am

knicksfan5494 wrote:
KnicksScholar24 wrote:I'm hoping it turns out to be $58m for 5 years, opposed to 4 years. But I guess there is some benefits to a shorter deal.

Impossible without a sign and trade. Max contract length for players from other teams is 4 years.

Isn't Billups getting traded to Dallas?

god shammgod · Post #1932 » by **god shammgod** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:57 am

Jay10 wrote:espn 710 AM, john ireland said he heard from a source dwight might be on the lakers in 48 hrs

then it really doesn't matter what we do. they'll own the league. isn't life grand ?

Post #1933 » by **mpharris36** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:57 am

GONYK wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
GONYK wrote:Turiaf is getting traded for nothing.

I would have really hoped we could flip TD for a real PG, but I lost the ability to hope 6 hours ago.

Why are u so mad?

We have one of the best rebounding teams in the nba now. Our defense just jumped way up....all we are going to do is need to replace billups which shouldn't be that hard...he checked out anyways.

Turiaf will get us something..,he is a quality backup C for a decent contract

I'm not mad. I'm realistic. We addressed a weakness for sure, but we torpedoed our offensive efficiency in the process.

And Turiaf is just getting traded for capspace.

Offensive effeciency? We now will have a great offensive rebounding team getting tons of second chances. Melo and Stat make there own efficiency! its not like billups was an efficient PG...it became more and more clear CP3 wasn't coming knicks acted smart and wise and jumped on a great option to really give them a legit shot this yr for a ring

Daaaarryyl · Post #1934 » by **Daaaarryyl** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:57 am

Why are some saying Turiaf is gone? I know he has to be moved, but have they already? And if so what was the trade?

BLACKFEET 2010 · Post #1935 » by **BLACKFEET 2010** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:57 am

So with the new CBA and all, if this deal goes dowm what kind of money do we have to acquire some depth? MLE?

TKF · Post #1936 » by **TKF** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:58 am

mpharris36 wrote:jackie mcmullen "the knicks are crying"

lol f*ck u...knicks are jumping up for joy we are just going to bully motherf*ckers all day

exactly, i heard her.. the knicks are fine.. will be fine... geez... ESPN.. smdh

god shammgod · Post #1937 » by **god shammgod** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:58 am

Daaaarryyl wrote:Why are some saying Turiaf is gone? I know he has to be moved, but have they already? And if so what was the trade?

he's going somewhere for a trade exception. denver was mentioned.

Post #1938 » by **duetta** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:58 am

If they're really going to overpay for Chandler, they need to lose D'Antoni - since Chandler is not his kind of player.

makeitstop · Post #1939 » by **makeitstop** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:58 am

I'm starting a razor blade concession. I'm gonna be rich!

Line up, get ya blades... and remember - down the road, not across the street.

Anyone just coming to this board by mistake would think we were still a 23-win team. There is never any happiness here.

Post #1940 » by **mpharris36** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:58 am

god shammgod wrote:
Jay10 wrote:espn 710 AM, john ireland said he heard from a source dwight might be on the lakers in 48 hrs

then it really doesn't matter what we do. they'll own the league. isn't life grand ?

hey look at it this way...chandler can stop D12...who D's up amare and melo...we are a matchup nightmare even for the Lakers!