Knicks emerge as front runners for Jamal Crawford?

[Knicksrule2k4]

I'd seriously acknowledge that Isiah is running things if they involve Landry in any kind of trade for Jamal. I think I'd instantly be done. KnicksGod dies.

No way we include Landry.

[NYStateofMind]

Crawford surrounded by two stars like Melo and STAT is exactly what he needs to curb his shot selection and play smarter on offense. This isn't the Jamal Crawford from the Knicks during his time here between '04 and '09. On that team, there was no true star. And there was no true go-to scorer. So to him, he needed to do what he could to embody both those roles on the team. That was his chance to separate himself from the NBA pack as a top scorer in this league and someone who could be looked at as another star guard. It's simply not the type of player he is. I feel like he started to figure that out a great deal in ATL, culminated by his 6th man of the year award and clearly evidence in his development as a ballhandler and distributor. And in an even more star-studded situation back with NYK, I believe Crawford would smarten up on offense and play within himself. Now, that's not going to help his lack of defense, but offensively, I believe Crawford could fit in with this team. He's really too intelligent of a person, IMO. Depending on who we give up, I think this would be a good get.

[ITGM]

Lol @ you guys talking about Crawford backing up.... who? Fields??


C'mon people, the Knicks aren't trading Toney D, Balkman, Walker, and Lawd knows who/what else for Crawford to play second fiddle to Landry "Now you see me, now you don't" Fields.

[Jay10]

Oh yeah, who are we going to look to for points outside of Melo and Amare? Even if we expect them both to put up 25 a night? Chandler isn't that type of guy...

Fields? TD? Iman? Jefferies?

This team's to thin to complain about a guy that sometimes chucks the ball.. He'd clearly be a offensive threat that this team needs and would be a big boost that is still very much needed.

Great point.

Is that why we were routinely scoring 110 per game with guys like Anthony Carter and Roger Mason playing in games? Please stop. Scoring is the last thing we need. What was the Celtics bench like during their runs? Who was their 6th man? Eddie House? Big baby? They had a solid bench 6 through 10. They had scoring. They had the defensive role players to come in and help off the bench. They had the right mix of scoring and defense. Right now we are fine with scoring. Bring back Shawne Williams and try to get Barea and we'll be fine as a scoring team. Probably even better than before too.

Jamal Crawford needs to take 15 shots to score 15 points. No idea how that actually helps the Knicks.

don't forget to mention there were games where amar'e, carmelo, and billups had to combine for 75+ points to wins games.

[Thugger HBC]

So, Toney, Walker and Balkman is the defensive players we have?

These are my hopes......

Tyson......




Shump.....



Toney, just patrol those passing lanes.

[NBA Fan 1234]

I'd seriously acknowledge that Isiah is running things if they involve Landry in any kind of trade for Jamal. I think I'd instantly be done. KnicksGod dies.

KG would go the way of TKF

[Invictus]

I'd seriously acknowledge that Isiah is running things if they involve Landry in any kind of trade for Jamal. I think I'd instantly be done. KnicksGod dies.

WTF? is this some stank rumor from isola or berman?

[Knicksrule2k4]

alanhahn Alan Hahn
All hands on deck for #Knicks practice today. Bibby, Jeffries, Shumpert and Harrellson all signed. Eleven on the court. #fb

[Rasho Brezec]

If coaching staff sees Bibby as backup, is Toney really the one who gets traded for Crawford? Are they that certain Barea can come and start? Do they have that much faith in Iman? Or are they going full (Please Use More Appropriate Word) and putting Crawford at PG?

[bigg mike]

This isn't bad at all.
Crawford is a scoring punch... dude scored 50 points for us right?
I'll definitely take him, he was lighting it up last time he played with D'Antoni.
Giving up Balkman, TD, and Walker? Who cares... Vet min. signings can round out the team if needed, but who's getting major minutes?
Chandler, Amare, Melo, Fields, Bibby, Crawford, Jeffries...
D'Antoni likes to play 7-8 players a night... so yeah, I'll take it.

I'd rather try to get Ariza TBH, but Crawford is not bad for 5 Mil.

[god shammgod]

stop penciling shumpert as anything. for all we know he's not even a legit nba player. you can't rely on him and you have absolutely no information one way or the other what he's going to be like.

[Mecca]

I think everyone is forgetting how stagnant our offense was last year. We would rely on Melo and Amare for 90% of our offense, and if they were out of the game or not clicking, we would fall behind, and lose leads. Crawford is a much needed #3 option offensively, and will give us some much needed fire power. We need someone who can handle the ball, and create his own shot. Douglas had a ton of trouble with getting the ball up the court, and making plays for his teammates. Crawford has great handles, can get up the court with ease, and give us a playmaking presence on the offensive end. Him and Shumpert/FIelds would work great together in the backcourt. I'm all for this. He is a perfect fit right now.

[DE FENSE]

I love how all of a sudden Douglas is such a must keep when everyone in the universe wanted him gone after the playoffs. The Knicks have NO Sixth Man. Every contending team in the NBA has a sixth man. Dallas, Miami, Chicago, Atlanta, etc.

Crawford is the top Sixth man in the NBA. It is a no brainer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AZ3rVJjeL8

That clip shows exactly why I DON'T want Crawful back. I see he's still dribbling out the clock and jacking up nonsense shots.

Is there really no one else available???

[SonOfMars]

I think everyone is forgetting how stagnant our offense was last year. We would rely on Melo and Amare for 90% of our offense, and if they were out of the game or not clicking, we would fall behind, and lose leads. Crawford is a much needed #3 option offensively, and will give us some much needed fire power. We need someone who can handle the ball, and create his own shot. Douglas had a ton of trouble with getting the ball up the court, and making plays for his teammates. Crawford has great handles, can get up the court with ease, and give us a playmaking presence on the offensive end. Him and Shumpert/FIelds would work great together in the backcourt. I'm all for this. He is a perfect fit right now.

Summed it up perfectly.

[Knicker23]

YOu guys do realize that we only have 2 guys that average double figures right? The rest of our rotation is: Chandler, TD, Fields, Walker, Shumpert, Jeffries and maybe Bibby. Who exactly do you have confidence can start scoring 15 ppg from that bunch? Getting a 3rd scorer and depth is a necessity. We need Crawford here.

This.

Amare and Melo are enough to beat down on the scrub teams.. But if we want to hang with some of the tougher teams, and make a big push in the playoffs, we need more than just those two as offensive threats - no question.

If we can grab him, and get JJ or Baron, we'd be in pretty great shape... I'd like Fields starting over Craw too, even though Craw is better, I'm sure they value him more as an off the bench energy and would stick with that.... Unless we didn't get a JJ or Baron.

[AllanHoustonFan]

If coaching staff sees Bibby as backup, is Toney really the one who gets traded for Crawford? Are they that certain Barea can come and start? Do they have that much faith in Iman? Or are they going full (Please Use More Appropriate Word) and putting Crawford at PG?

FWIW that spanish radio station is reporting Barea will be a Knick.

[nykgeneralmanager]

YOu guys do realize that we only have 2 guys that average double figures right? The rest of our rotation is: Chandler, TD, Fields, Walker, Shumpert, Jeffries and maybe Bibby. Who exactly do you have confidence can start scoring 15 ppg from that bunch? Getting a 3rd scorer and depth is a necessity. We need Crawford here.

I hear you but look at his shooting percentages. Dude shot 34% from the field (overall) last season. Laughably bad.

No, he shot 34% from downtown.

[god shammgod]

I think everyone is forgetting how stagnant our offense was last year. We would rely on Melo and Amare for 90% of our offense, and if they were out of the game or not clicking, we would fall behind, and lose leads. Crawford is a much needed #3 option offensively, and will give us some much needed fire power. We need someone who can handle the ball, and create his own shot. Douglas had a ton of trouble with getting the ball up the court, and making plays for his teammates. Crawford has great handles, can get up the court with ease, and give us a playmaking presence on the offensive end. Him and Shumpert/FIelds would work great together in the backcourt. I'm all for this. He is a perfect fit right now.

in what world does crawford help with moving the ball. have people forgotten his years here ? he's completely selfish.

[melo mvp 15]

I'd seriously acknowledge that Isiah is running things if they involve Landry in any kind of trade for Jamal. I think I'd instantly be done. KnicksGod dies.

Well yeah. I love this move if it's just Douglas, Walker and Balkman. I hate it if it includes either Landry or Shumpert. Like literally hate it. That shows how much more I value those 2 though.

One other plus of pulling of this kinda trade is we get to replace two scrubs with 2 new scrubs! Idk why I'm so excited about that, but I am. I love adding more scrubs. Think about it, turning TD, Walker and Balkman into Crawford creates an extra 2 spots that need to be filled. What about Troy Murphy? What about Nachbar? The possibilities are endless. TBH I don't like either of Walker or Balkman's attitude, sometimes I love Walker when he's playing that gritty defense (like in game 2 against Boston even though he was like 0-11) but more times I'm frustrated with him. Balkman is just a lazy pothead who shouldn't even be in the NBA. The funny thing is he actually has amazing rebounding skills and great timing, he just doesn't put any effort into practicing. I'd love the opportunity to replace them.

We're potentially looking at a completely different team outside of Amar'e, Melo, Landry and Jefferies (and hopefully add Shawne). I think it's the right move.

Replacing Billups, Walker and Douglas with Shumpert, Crawford, and Bibby (and most likely someone else too, Baron? Barea?). (I know the Jamal deal isn't done, but I think it's gonna happen). And hopefully Bibby gets moved into the Anthony Carter replacement role.
Replacing Turiaf, Derrick Brown, Balkman and Shelden with Tyson, Jerome and Jorts (I still can't get over how I excited I am for this improvement). With more to likely come (just to fill out the roster).

One thing I am curious about though, I wonder if we could've had a shot at someone like Tayshaun, Battier or Andre Kirilenko (AK is still available) for the same money as Jamal (and I think we were going for this with Hill). I know they're both primarily SFs but I think D'Antoni is a coach who can get creative and utilize them like he did with Marion and have them slot in different positions throughout the game. That would've actually been my preference, but I'll gladly take Jamal. And maybe if we're lucky we re-sign Shawne or maybe Outlaw falls through waivers to us (doubtful even with a broken hand).

[KnicksFan007]

Yet, Douglas dribble out the clock, jacking shots and nobody minds. Seriously this is annoying now.

Crawford's defense is so bad the Bulls tried to sign him this weekend. The Hawks had a top 10 defense and he got a bulk of minutes, he's awful!