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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IX) 

Post#321 » by Darth Magic » Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:48 pm

Von Wafer highlights. Dude has got skill. looks like he just needed an opportunity. Maybe he can be a break out star for us.



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNmNj_zsVyU&feature=related[/youtube]
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IX) 

Post#322 » by eyriq » Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:53 pm

PeePee la Fritz wrote:
eyriq wrote:The New Jersey trade will look a lot better around the deadline, when the Nets are one of the worst records in the league. Honestly though, I still don't want to trade Dwight.


You sure they didnt trade this years pick to Utah?


Hmm, yeah you are probably right.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IX) 

Post#323 » by meatwad4343 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:02 am

anyone see this on the lakers board? theres a rumor going around about a derrick williams and kevin love deal for pau gasol. since the wolves gm is david kahn i can somewhat buy it. if we were to trade dwight and turk for pau and bynum we could flip pau to the wolves for love and williams so the trade would essetially be dwight and turk for kevin love, pau gasol, and derrick williams. sounds like a good haul to me. a bynum and love front court sounds awesome and you have the #2 pick from last year we could put williams at the 3.

jameer
jrich
d williams
love
bynum

if bynum stays healthy and williams pans out this could be a veery competitive team and we can have our own big 3 of bynum love and williams.

in case anyone is wondering why on earth minny would do this it looks like they think love will leave so they are trying to get something for him
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IX) 

Post#324 » by CPBalla2003 n da 863 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:06 am

Kahn is a freaking idiot(more than usual) if he does that deal, no way.

it has to be some Laker blogger spewing up that nonsense.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IX) 

Post#325 » by SolidSnake008 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:06 am

meatwad4343 wrote:anyone see this on the lakers board? theres a rumor going around about a derrick williams and kevin love deal for pau gasol. since the wolves gm is david kahn i can somewhat buy it. if we were to trade dwight and turk for pau and bynum we could flip pau to the wolves for love and williams so the trade would essetially be dwight and turk for kevin love, pau gasol, and derrick williams. sounds like a good haul to me. a bynum and love front court sounds awesome and you have the #2 pick from last year we could put williams at the 3.

jameer
jrich
d williams
love
bynum

if bynum stays healthy and williams pans out this could be a veery competitive team and we can have our own big 3 of bynum love and williams.

in case anyone is wondering why on earth minny would do this it looks like they think love will leave so they are trying to get something for him

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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IX) 

Post#326 » by bicatmit » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:12 am

Darth Magic wrote:Von Wafer highlights. Dude has got skill. looks like he just needed an opportunity. Maybe he can be a break out star for us.



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNmNj_zsVyU&feature=related[/youtube]



Maybe I'm being overly skeptical but these highlights don't impress me at all. It's easy to filter out all the bad stuff and string together a clip of highlights to make a guy look good but while I'm looking at this video I'm seeing Wafer:

- Take a ton of really bad, well-contested shots.
- Drive to the right and ALWAYS go up for a weak lay-up
- Take a jumper every time he's going to his left
- Not get a lot of lift on his layups

Basically just a lot of moves that make him look good against inferior players that wouldn't work in the NBA. Most of those layups would get blocked either by his defender or weak-side help.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IX) 

Post#327 » by Darth Magic » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:15 am

meatwad4343 wrote:anyone see this on the lakers board? theres a rumor going around about a derrick williams and kevin love deal for pau gasol. since the wolves gm is david kahn i can somewhat buy it. if we were to trade dwight and turk for pau and bynum we could flip pau to the wolves for love and williams so the trade would essetially be dwight and turk for kevin love, pau gasol, and derrick williams. sounds like a good haul to me. a bynum and love front court sounds awesome and you have the #2 pick from last year we could put williams at the 3.

jameer
jrich
d williams
love
bynum

if bynum stays healthy and williams pans out this could be a veery competitive team and we can have our own big 3 of bynum love and williams.

in case anyone is wondering why on earth minny would do this it looks like they think love will leave so they are trying to get something for him



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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IX) 

Post#328 » by Darth Magic » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:21 am

Maybe I'm being overly skeptical but these highlights don't impress me at all. It's easy to filter out all the bad stuff and string together a clip of highlights to make a guy look good but while I'm looking at this video I'm seeing Wafer:

- Take a ton of really bad, well-contested shots.
- Drive to the right and ALWAYS go up for a weak lay-up
- Take a jumper every time he's going to his left
- Not get a lot of lift on his layups

Basically just a lot of moves that make him look good against inferior players that wouldn't work in the NBA. Most of those layups would get blocked either by his defender or weak-side help.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDPUN8ktnOM[/youtube]
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Post#329 » by meatwad4343 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:25 am

CPBalla2003 n da 863 wrote:Kahn is a freaking idiot(more than usual) if he does that deal, no way.

it has to be some Laker blogger spewing up that nonsense.



its ric bucher so its probably not true either way lol
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Post#330 » by SolidSnake008 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:25 am

Darth Magic wrote:
Maybe I'm being overly skeptical but these highlights don't impress me at all. It's easy to filter out all the bad stuff and string together a clip of highlights to make a guy look good but while I'm looking at this video I'm seeing Wafer:

- Take a ton of really bad, well-contested shots.
- Drive to the right and ALWAYS go up for a weak lay-up
- Take a jumper every time he's going to his left
- Not get a lot of lift on his layups

Basically just a lot of moves that make him look good against inferior players that wouldn't work in the NBA. Most of those layups would get blocked either by his defender or weak-side help.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDPUN8ktnOM[/youtube]

Now these highlights impress me....The thing is i don't know where Stan will put him in the Rotation...Will he go Loyalty over Talent? As much as i love JJ he didn't really impress me in the practice of course it's only first impression....To be honest neither did J-Rich...Let me wait until the game tomorrow to make further judgement
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IX) 

Post#331 » by magicman123 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:28 am

I'll be surprised if wafer gets more than 10min a game
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IX) 

Post#332 » by The Effect » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:37 am

meatwad4343 wrote:anyone see this on the lakers board? theres a rumor going around about a derrick williams and kevin love deal for pau gasol.

:lol:
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IX) 

Post#333 » by Darth Magic » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:48 am

Now these highlights impress me....The thing is i don't know where Stan will put him in the Rotation...Will he go Loyalty over Talent? As much as i love JJ he didn't really impress me in the practice of course it's only first impression....To be honest neither did J-Rich...Let me wait until the game tomorrow to make further judgement


I honestly believe it's time for us to ship some guys out for talent. Redick being one of them. He's a good player, but he's just not what we need. We desperately desperately need a shot creator in out starting line up. I don't mind J-Rich starting at the two, but we need a dynamic guard at the one. I say package JJ for that guy, and give Wafer his minutes behind J-Rich.
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Post#334 » by SOUL » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:52 am

are you guys telling me you want to start wafer over jj or jrich because lol
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Post#335 » by caseyw20021 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:54 am

what do you guys think of bring in jermaine taylor to the magic?
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IX) 

Post#336 » by Darth Magic » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:57 am

SOUL wrote:are you guys telling me you want to start wafer over jj or jrich because lol


No, were not saying that
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IX) 

Post#337 » by Student_of_Game » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:59 am

Wafer is a one dimensonial scorer in the mold of Ronald "Flip" Murray. If he gets into the rotation, he's going to give you 10-12ppg in 20 or so minutes of play.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IX) 

Post#338 » by Darth Magic » Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:00 am

Student_of_Game wrote:Wafer is a one dimensonial scorer in the mold of Ronald "Flip" Murray. If he gets into the rotation, he's going to give you 10-12ppg in 20 or so minutes of play.


That doesn't sound too bad. Define one dimensional though?
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Post#339 » by pokerfan12 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:01 am

SOUL wrote:are you guys telling me you want to start wafer over jj or jrich because lol


at this point I'd put wafer/liggins in front of JJ & Jrich.
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Post#340 » by pokerfan12 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:02 am

Student_of_Game wrote:Wafer is a one dimensonial scorer in the mold of Ronald "Flip" Murray. If he gets into the rotation, he's going to give you 10-12ppg in 20 or so minutes of play.


ok now let's say I buy that assessment describe JJ/JRICH
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