Andray Blatche - Resurgence Thread ( Merged )

[mohammed10]

I'm not willing to wait and see what Blatche might do under a new coach. Trade him. Let someone else "reach him." Start changing the team's culture now.

+1

[Induveca]

Nivek,

Agreed not willing to wait on Blatche either...........just as with any organization the first "big move" will unfortunately be decided between ownership and management (Flip/Ernie). With Leonsis' personality that kind of move will automatically buy Flip/EG some time likely into next season unless the entire thing completely falls apart even after the trade. Trust me as soon as Leonsis were to bring up the subject, management types like EG and Flip will attempt to deflect all blame on the guy currently on the hot seat (Blatche).

The best move would be to axe both Flip and EG TODAY. Bring in Jerry West and beg Hubie Brown to finish out the year as a teaching coach. Once West is in the door Blatche is out of here within a week. If not, the front office culture will be in equal disarray/distrust/"I'm next" mentality for the remainder of the season.

It's an inevitability EG and Flip get fired......just get it over with now and do the whole organization and fanbase a favor.

If the West/Brown scenario is too illogical due to their age....so be it. Bring in Pritchard and let Cassell finish out the season.

[hands11]

This Blatche at center suggestion that gets thrown around on occasion is quite funny. If he can't cut at PF because he's afraid of contact what makes you think that he'll cut it at the position that requires even more physical play??

Actually what is quite funny is that you don't know that he played way more years at center then at PF.

Of course he can play minutes at center.

It is much more likely that they move him back there then 1) they cut him, 2) that he get traded right away, 3) he just gets benched all together.

And to the poster who said Vesley isnt is PF. The only minutes he played in preseason where at PF. He is 6-11 240 .. He is listed on the roster as a F. Not a PF. Not a SF.

One a team that desperately needs help at PF, why in the world would you think he isn't going to get minutes there. Singleton and Lewis can play SF. At least Lewis has range.

[hands11]

Nivek,

Agreed not willing to wait on Blatche either...........just as with any organization the first "big move" will unfortunately be decided between ownership and management (Flip/Ernie). With Leonsis' personality that kind of move will automatically buy Flip/EG some time likely into next season unless the entire thing completely falls apart even after the trade. Trust me as soon as Leonsis were to bring up the subject, management types like EG and Flip will attempt to deflect all blame on the guy currently on the hot seat (Blatche).

The best move would be to axe both Flip and EG TODAY. Bring in Jerry West and beg Hubie Brown to finish out the year as a teaching coach. Once West is in the door Blatche is out of here within a week. If not, the front office culture will be in equal disarray/distrust/"I'm next" mentality for the remainder of the season.

It's an inevitability EG and Flip get fired......just get it over with now and do the whole organization and fanbase a favor.

If the West/Brown scenario is too illogical due to their age....so be it. Bring in Pritchard and let Cassell finish out the season.

It is clearly a scenerio that Cassell could coach at some point this season. Not saying it will happen but it is a clear choice and it would not surprise me in the least. But isn't happening this week or next week. I could be shocked if it happen any time in January. Maybe after that.

[omegatronic3]

yea im pretty disgusted at how Blache is performing. I think he does have value because he does have size and skill and a reasonable contract. Mcgee is in a contract year. How about we offer Mcgee and Blache to Orlando (ok back to reality)

At year 7 he is what he is. He's not gonna be a viable 2nd option to Wall so lets either move him now before he loses more value or bring him off the bench.

[hands11]

So Dray had a good waking up game against the Celtics in game two. He slowly seems to be playing himself into shape. Maybe in another 5 games he will be there. But the nagging injuries are already showing up. This compressed season may end up really being a blessing since there are less days of to goof off.

Seemed to really have it zeroed in from the top left of the key but his shot still wasn't falling as well as it could be from outside. This is what I was getting at in another thread. Know your game. Now your spots on the floor. Then Wall can make a mental map of where players need the ball.

Funny, Dray didnt want to be a pick and pop type but that is his game.

He made a nice steal and transition layup in traffic and his D was a lot better. He got rebounds and he even blocked some shots.

To read his line, he had an amazing game but I watch it, it actually could have been better if he hit a few open shots. He could have had 34-36 pts easy or just the 28 only it would have looked clearer without the misses form outside. McGee actually had a more efficient game.

But Dray pulled up lame again at the end. A ankle or leg injury. Last game it was the shoulder. He just always seems dinged up but he plays through it. I just wish the light would have gone on over the summer and he would come into camp in great shape with some shoulder muscles. When he looks around and other players can't he see that players like KG and Allen are still playing at a high level only because of the work they put in on their bodies.

At 25 he can still get away with it but if he doesn't start to get really really serious in the weight room and diet, his career will be over in 3-4 years. It's going to start getting harder, not easier and he is behind the curve. But if he hits the weights, he can play into his mid 30s.

Can't someone get through to him and explain that. You are talking an extra 5-6 years and maybe 50-60M.

So Walls light bulb went on last game which was awesome to see. He seems to think he can learn a lot from a Rondo type players which I agree. Rondo is the player he should model. Wall played his best PG game of his career in my book. http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... y_Of_Rondo

The McGee light bulb seems to have gone on also. Most efficient under control game I have ever seen him play.

So now it is up to Dray to finally have his go on. Regardless of if he stays here or not, I hope the kid finally gets it this season. He does have talent but it will only shine if he takes care of his body. Eat right. Get your sleep and hit the weight room every day. I hope this group around him can lift him up and help him to see this. That was my hope for him this year. The more the light bulbs go on around him, the more lightly it is that his will go on also. That is the transition you hope to see with a younger team. You can live with the young mistakes on the floor but they need to approach the game as professionals.

[jmrosenth]

I hope he continues to put up good "stats" like last night to improve his trade value and sucker some team into giving up something of value for him based on numbers. At 25, he looked older than Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, and KG on the court last night. Under contract for 3 more years after this one, he won't get serious until the 2014-2015 season.

[FAH1223]

I hope he continues to put up good "stats" like last night to improve his trade value and sucker some team into giving up something of value for him based on numbers. At 25, he looked older than Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, and KG on the court last night. Under contract for 3 more years after this one, he won't get serious until the 2014-2015 season.

+1

Praying he puts up empty stats in these losses

[TGW]

Blatche managed to bring his pitiful shooting percentage from "time to get sent down to d-league" level to "downright awful" with his performance last night.

A few more "good" games, and he might manage to get it up to 40%.

[fishercob]

Yes, and to the extent that anyone is tempted to get excited by Blatche's 28 points on 20 shots -- if he put up that TS% of .574 for an entire season last year he would have been tied for 83rd with Patrick Patterson, just behind Martell Webster and just ahead of Melvin Ely.

So.....yeah.

[queridiculo]

Reading his line and not watching the game is exactly why people actually think the guy may have value.

Not bothering to challenge shots, taking terrible shots, getting outworked for position on the defensive glass are the kind of things that don't shot up on that stat sheet, but they do show up in the W/L column.

The guy is a loser and one, by this season's standard, good game isn't going to change it.

[7-Day Dray]

Reading his line and not watching the game is exactly why people actually think the guy may have value.

Not bothering to challenge shots, taking terrible shots, getting outworked for position on the defensive glass are the kind of things that don't shot up on that stat sheet, but they do show up in the W/L column.

The guy is a loser and one, by this season's standard, good game isn't going to change it.

[tontoz]

Here's hoping he focuses only on catch and shoot jumpers and stops the off the dribble/fake post up fadeaway jumpers. If he does that he might sucker a GM into trading for him.

[hands11]

Here's hoping he focuses only on catch and shoot jumpers and stops the off the dribble/fake post up fadeaway jumpers. If he does that he might sucker a GM into trading for him.

He did look better when he did that. Top right of the key was his spot.

Actually he made 5 shots from the right side and none from the left.

Everything else was at the bucket.

If he kept it to that, he would have been 9-12 and his numbers would have been awesome.

Know you spot. Everyone needs to learn that. If McGee can learn that, you have to hope Dray can as well.

[nate33]

Yes, and to the extent that anyone is tempted to get excited by Blatche's 28 points on 20 shots -- if he put up that TS% of .574 for an entire season last year he would have been tied for 83rd with Patrick Patterson, just behind Martell Webster and just ahead of Melvin Ely.

So.....yeah.

Nitpicking here, but that's a very misleading representation of Blatche's performance. .574 is a very good TS% for a high volume scorer. I'd be absolutely thrilled if Blatche could average that for a season. There were only 7 players in the league last year who averaged 20 or more points with a TS% of .574 or better.

[hands11]

Blatche managed to bring his pitiful shooting percentage from "time to get sent down to d-league" level to "downright awful" with his performance last night.

A few more "good" games, and he might manage to get it up to 40%.

And yet our #1 pick is at .317

Obviously lots of players have gotten off to a slow start. The first 4 game were down right ugly.

[tontoz]

Blatche managed to bring his pitiful shooting percentage from "time to get sent down to d-league" level to "downright awful" with his performance last night.

A few more "good" games, and he might manage to get it up to 40%.

And yet our #1 pick is at .317

Obviously lots of players have gotten off to a slow start. The first 4 game were down right ugly.

Our No 1 pick isn't 6'11" in his 7th season.

[verbal8]

Blatche is probably one of the least deserving names on the list.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... allot_List

[closg00]

Blatche is probably one of the least deserving names on the list.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... allot_List

Just in-case people do not check the link, Ernie Grunfeld submitted Andray Blatche's name for appearance on the All-star ballot. Apparently w/o shame or embarrassment. Yeah, this org has some serious problems.

[Nivek]

Every team has to submit four players. Who would you choose? Wall and who? Almost by default, Blatche has to be on the list.