OFFICIAL - Amare Must Go Thread (all hate here) #TRADESTAT

pomfofo · Post #101 » by **pomfofo** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 9:15 am

It seems to me that Amare + Melo + Tyson core is not gonna work. Time to make some change.

Amare + Toney + Fields for Rondo + Allen + Bass
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=6q5anqo

The new core, Rondo + Melo + Tyson will be much more balanced. I think it's worth a try.

gavran · Post #102 » by **gavran** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 9:32 am

sfernald wrote:I understand Clippers GM has always had a big hard-on for Stat for some reason. Supposedly he would be willing to trade Griffin and Mo Williams for Amare in a heartbeat if NY showed any interest. DAntoni said no though.

You should be banned for making a post this stupid.

Greenie · Post #103 » by **Greenie** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 9:41 am

gavran wrote:
sfernald wrote:I understand Clippers GM has always had a big hard-on for Stat for some reason. Supposedly he would be willing to trade Griffin and Mo Williams for Amare in a heartbeat if NY showed any interest. DAntoni said no though.

You should be banned for making a post this stupid.

truth serum · Post #104 » by **truth serum** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 9:44 am

OMG, I can't stand all of the little kids on this board. It's not time to abandon Amar'e. It's time to abandon RealGM. I get less enjoyment from posting here and reading this crap than I do watching the Knicks lose. Horrendous.

NY2TheBay · Post #105 » by **NY2TheBay** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 9:46 am

truth serum wrote:OMG, I can't stand all of the little kids on this board. It's not time to abandon Amar'e. It's time to abandon RealGM. I get less enjoyment from posting here and reading this crap than I do watching the Knicks lose. Horrendous.

With you man, on all accounts. Just ridiculous.

Nutty Nats Fan · Post #106 » by **Nutty Nats Fan** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 10:48 am

NY2TheBay wrote:
truth serum wrote:OMG, I can't stand all of the little kids on this board. It's not time to abandon Amar'e. It's time to abandon RealGM. I get less enjoyment from posting here and reading this crap than I do watching the Knicks lose. Horrendous.

With you man, on all accounts. Just ridiculous.

It was ridiculous that NY threw the contract that they did at Amare. I actually think if Melo was smart, he shouldn't have come to NY. He isn't winning with Amare at PF and NY doesn't have flexibility with the deal they gave to Amare.

And that was my belief the day he was signed. I'm no band wagoner on this one.

MarJJMar · Post #107 » by **MarJJMar** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 10:56 am

NY fans do not understand that Amare has no trade value.

Greenie · Post #108 » by **Greenie** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 10:58 am

Nutty Nats Fan wrote:
NY2TheBay wrote:
truth serum wrote:OMG, I can't stand all of the little kids on this board. It's not time to abandon Amar'e. It's time to abandon RealGM. I get less enjoyment from posting here and reading this crap than I do watching the Knicks lose. Horrendous.

With you man, on all accounts. Just ridiculous.

It was ridiculous that NY threw the contract that they did at Amare. I actually think if Melo was smart, he shouldn't have come to NY. He isn't winning with Amare at PF and NY doesn't have flexibility with the deal they gave to Amare.

And that was my belief the day he was signed. I'm no band wagoner on this one.

I was not for Amare's signing nor Carmelo's trade, I like my franchise "Max Cats" to play defense.

Greenie · Post #109 » by **Greenie** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 10:59 am

MarJJMar wrote:NY fans do not understand that Amare has no trade value.

Why, he's a big who can score.

TiKusDom · Post #110 » by **TiKusDom** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 11:22 am

I dont think it's the players , but the system. Knicks need a smart coach who can create a good system for the players he has. Dantoni has a syste, and is trying to make the players fit into it. Knicks needs a more reflexive coach who can actually implement and create a system that utilizes Amare and Melo better. My 2 cents.

timdunkit · Post #111 » by **timdunkit** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 2:34 pm

Its early season ... if anything, Knicks need to fire D'antoni before they trade Amare. He just doesn't fit with this group.

towelie · Post #112 » by **towelie** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 2:46 pm

It's like Knick fans have already forgotten this man had 9 straight 30+ point games last season, and he's still playing without a PnR PG.

Amar'e will be fine, but he's definitely showing his limitations. I think he sees Chandler getting easy alley-oops, Melo going 1-on-1 and getting to the hoop with success, and out of jealousy, is pressing a bit and going out of his skillset. Plus, his jumper is broke, but I know someone with his work ethic will get it back eventually.

KnicksMTA · Post #113 » by **KnicksMTA** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:07 pm

Nutty Nats Fan wrote:
NY2TheBay wrote:
truth serum wrote:OMG, I can't stand all of the little kids on this board. It's not time to abandon Amar'e. It's time to abandon RealGM. I get less enjoyment from posting here and reading this crap than I do watching the Knicks lose. Horrendous.

With you man, on all accounts. Just ridiculous.

It was ridiculous that NY threw the contract that they did at Amare. I actually think if Melo was smart, he shouldn't have come to NY. He isn't winning with Amare at PF and NY doesn't have flexibility with the deal they gave to Amare.

And that was my belief the day he was signed. I'm no band wagoner on this one.

I always felt this way from the start. I felt that the Knicks should of never gave Amare that contract. It was just to risky.

MarJJMar · Post #114 » by **MarJJMar** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:42 pm

greenhughes wrote:
MarJJMar wrote:NY fans do not understand that Amare has no trade value.

Why, he's a big who can score.

Because no team in the NBA other than the desperate Knicks would have given him such a huge contract with no clauses which can not be insured.

At his age, injury history and salary, with no insurance no NBA team will be willing to give up anything for him. Many might not even take that risk for free.

SelbyCobra · Post #115 » by **SelbyCobra** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:44 pm

If this is the first play of the game, fine.

But when this is the 4th quarter with your team down big and needing some fire and intensity from their leadership, and this dude has been personally whipping you like you're Denzel in Glory the whole game, how can this play possibly be interpreted as anything less than poor effort, lack of heart, and no accountability?

I'm not even kidding when I say I'd rather have seen him draw a flagrant and multiple game suspension for punching Diaw in the back of the head on the way to the basket after he got beat, just so it would be obvious he at least gave a sh*t. He just doesn't care about defense at this point. He gives it awesome lip service in the press, but nothing beyond that.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5DSa742msc&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

vergogna · Post #116 » by **vergogna** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:44 pm

donkki wrote:Before giving up on Amare how about getting a coach who can actually draw up plays that suit both Amare's and Tyson's offensive game?

MD is the weak link here.

this

issue #1 - sadly, D'antoni
issue #2 - you need a PG

I would try changing this way before any talk about trading him, he has been good enough in the past to justify some adjustments around him

on defense I'm not sure if he's the product of years of D'Antoni system or he's just preserving his knee, I agree right now he is Bargnanesque, but with his physical strenght he just need hustle and focus to be -at least- adequate

Rasho Brezec · Post #117 » by **Rasho Brezec** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:57 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:If this is the first play of the game, fine.

But when this is the 4th quarter with your team down big and needing some fire and intensity from their leadership, and this dude has been personally whipping you like you're Denzel in Glory the whole game, how can this play possibly be interpreted as anything less than poor effort, lack of heart, and no accountability?

I'm not even kidding when I say I'd rather have seen him draw a flagrant and multiple game suspension for punching Diaw in the back of the head on the way to the basket after he got beat, just so it would be obvious he at least gave a sh*t. He just doesn't care about defense at this point. He gives it awesome lip service in the press, but nothing beyond that.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5DSa742msc&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

Oh, wow. Getting owned like that by Boris Diaw at his slowest and fattest point in his career. We maxed out this guy.

MarJJMar · Post #118 » by **MarJJMar** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:58 pm

no matter who you would get as PG it wouldnt make much of a difference because the real problem is that Amare and Carmelo are too similiar. They both want the ball and they both score in similiar situations.

As if Carmelo would allow any PG to dominate the ball and run the team over him.

Fella504 · Post #119 » by **Fella504** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 4:13 pm

HE'S PISSING ME OFF BIG TIME, DAN FONNY SHOULD HAVE PUT BALKMAN ON DIAW... ITS FUNNY CAUSE WHEN MELO WAS ON THE BENCH HE WAS LOOKING LIKE WTF MULLENS WAS KILLING STAT

devv83 · Post #120 » by **devv83** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 4:19 pm

MarJJMar wrote:no matter who you would get as PG it wouldnt make much of a difference because the real problem is that Amare and Carmelo are too similiar. They both want the ball and they both score in similiar situations.

As if Carmelo would allow any PG to dominate the ball and run the team over him.

Billups, Andre Miller, and Iverson would disagree with you