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Post#981 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:19 am

closg00 wrote:
DallasShalDune wrote:http://www.bulletsforever.com/2012/1/16/2712161/the-wizards-according-to-sources-have-long-coveted-green-who-played

Jeff Green?


Further evidence that Ernie Grunfeld needs to go ASAP. That was truly frightening to read.


Thunder dumps Jeff Green and don't miss a beat. Celtics get Jeff Green and do. They don't want to resign him. Yet .... the Wizards covet Jeff Green. :-?

This would not be good.
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Post#982 » by J-Blaze » Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:09 am

jeff green is actually pretty good, why is he getting all this hate?
i still love my team no matter what.

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Post#983 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:22 am

J-Blaze wrote:jeff green is actually pretty good, why is he getting all this hate?
J-Blaze wrote:jeff green is actually pretty good, why is he getting all this hate?



I'd a been interested in a Blatche for Green swap. But Green as a FA, don't get it. He woulda been a nice fit back with Eddie and the princeton, but doesn't make any sense now we already have enough SF/PF tweener types (Vesely, Singleton, Booker, Lewis). Especially not if it is a "big payday".
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Post#984 » by nate33 » Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:34 am

I'd much rather work out a Blatche + filler for David Lee swap than pay the same amount of money for a Blatche + Green combo at forward.
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Post#985 » by WashWiz54 » Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:14 am

closg00 wrote:
WashWiz54 wrote:Why is Joel Przybilla still a free agent? Even taking the Wizards out of the equation, he should be on an NBA roster.

Putting the Wizards in the equation, he'd be perfect for McGee to learn under. He is one of the best low-post defenders we've seen in the league lately, has a real tough-guy mentality and is a smart player. I know we have Turiaf to fill this void for the team but Joel would be even better and cheaper (assuming he takes the minimum). Also it let's us use Turiaf in a "Hinrich move" (as someone else on the board coined so nicely).


The Blazers have been after him, he doesn't appear ready/willing to come-back to the NBA yet.


Thanks. I thought it was too good to be true and he was out of the league on his own terms.

Re Jeff Green:

Good player and I really root for him but I have mixed feelings on him being here. He's another tweener which we have plenty of (Vesley, Booker, Lewis) so he'd be a bit redundant.

HOWEVA, I'd still sign him if he came cheap. Let's face it, we're the worst team in the league. We need to inject some change, build a "winning culture", and have some smart players on the court. Jeff Green fits the bill. Rashard is done as a Wizard (I doubt he plays much more this season and is eventually amnestied), Vesley is at least a couple years away,Booker is your 20-25 minute per game energy guy, and Blatche should be traded ASAP. If the David Lee proposal Nate suggests happens, I'd still sign Jeff. Our players are too damn comfortable because they know they're playing whether they suck or not. If we actually bring in some guys who can play, we might win a couple games and start building some character. Especially smart professionals like Lee and Green.
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Post#986 » by jivelikenice » Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:21 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
closg00 wrote:
DallasShalDune wrote:http://www.bulletsforever.com/2012/1/16/2712161/the-wizards-according-to-sources-have-long-coveted-green-who-played

Jeff Green?


Further evidence that Ernie Grunfeld needs to go ASAP. That was truly frightening to read.


Thunder dumps Jeff Green and don't miss a beat. Celtics get Jeff Green and do. They don't want to resign him. Yet .... the Wizards covet Jeff Green. :-?

This would not be good.


Thunder don't miss a beat because Green was playing out of position with them. That shouldn't be viewed as a negative towards him....Durant and Green both are 3s....Green was playing 3rd option (4th w/ Harden on the floor) and played solidly...

On Boston he want to beign a bench player on an established veteran team. It was a very tough fit for him. But Boston's regression was based on losing a center in the deal, not because of anything Jeff Green did. How can Jeff Green replace a center? It was a bad trade and Green looked bad based on the circumstances.

I wouldn't Pay Jeff huge dollars but I don't think we've seen him play to his potential in the NBA. I think on the Wiz he would be a good fit. He would provide maturity & intelligence to the floor. He wouldn't hold the ball....Would make quick passes and while not a great shooter, has the ability to knock down open shots. Having a point forward like him would also take some pressure of the pressure to initiate the offense off of Wall. Its not a bad fit. Is there a way to lock him in this year and give him a little money to sit on our bench the rest of the season in exchange for having him already under contract next season?
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Post#987 » by queridiculo » Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:31 am

Jeff Green is exactly what everybody thought he was coming out of college. A tweener SF/PF that lacks the skill set to play either of the positions full time.

I'd pass on Jeff Green, I don't see what he brings that we're not getting much cheaper from Singleton and Booker.
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Post#988 » by Jimmy Recard » Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:07 am

pancakes3 wrote:i hinted at this in the draft thread but i'm pretty firmly planted in the james harden bandwagon. harden and wall would be the best backcourt in the east, nay the league, nay... the WORLD.

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Post#989 » by WizarDynasty » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:04 am

Vesely and Singleton need alot of skill development but they are low risk players. Adding Jeff Green helps with the culture here and Jeff Green is skilled with a decent basketball iq which is what this team is lacking. Adding high BBIQ with a strong work ethic should be a high priority and Jeff Green fits both. I think both Vesely and Singleton need to come off the bench until they have a few season to get their offensive skills refined and during that time we have a Jeff Green that has been trained by other systems and we have a slight advantage because he is from the area.
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Post#990 » by dangermouse » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:44 am

IF we manage to land a top-flight PF prospect (Davis, Robinson, Drummond etc)

and IF we amnesty Lewis....

I wouldnt mind bringing in Green for a couple of years to be our starting SF.

There is no way i'd give him a long contract. Just enough to "prove himself" and try and get a big payday down the line.

If another team swoops in and offers him more, well good luck to them. Right now I dont think that it would be the right move for us to sign him to a big+long contract.
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Post#991 » by closg00 » Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:10 am

Spotted a possible pick-off (Never seen him play) Marcus Lewis out of Oral Roberts. I thought his rights were held by the Bucks, but I do not see him on their roster. Lewis is an absolute BEAST on the boards and he can score points. Not sure if he plays under-sized PF in the NBDL or forward. I would be interested in him if we traded Booker.
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Post#992 » by nate33 » Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:11 pm

dangermouse wrote:IF we manage to land a top-flight PF prospect (Davis, Robinson, Drummond etc)

and IF we amnesty Lewis....

I wouldnt mind bringing in Green for a couple of years to be our starting SF.

There is no way i'd give him a long contract. Just enough to "prove himself" and try and get a big payday down the line.

If another team swoops in and offers him more, well good luck to them. Right now I dont think that it would be the right move for us to sign him to a big+long contract.

If we decide that Singleton (or MKG) isn't our small forward of the future, I'd go after Batum or Wilson Chandler before thinking about Green.
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Post#993 » by Nivek » Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:27 pm

Signing Jeff Green would fit right in with all the other middling and worse "talent" the front office has jammed into the roster. Nice kid, but not a starting caliber NBA player. As an 8th or 9th man, he's fine. If he's your starter, you'd better have All-Stars at the other spots or you're not going to win.
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Post#994 » by closg00 » Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:39 pm

DallasShalDune wrote:http://www.bulletsforever.com/2012/1/16/2712161/the-wizards-according-to-sources-have-long-coveted-green-who-played

Jeff Green?


Just wanted to bump your link so peeps know where the Jeff Green discussion came-from.
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Post#995 » by Dat2U » Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:42 pm

Wow, EG never ceases to amaze me. Coveting Jeff Green is right down his alley. Why do I hate every player our front office has seemingly coveted over the years? From Antawn Jamison, Al Harrington, Mike Miller, Randy Foye, Josh Childress and now Jeff Green?

My only hope is that the same front office that covets Jeff Green won't be the ones making free agent choices for us this summer.
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Post#996 » by dangermouse » Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:22 am

nate33 wrote:
dangermouse wrote:IF we manage to land a top-flight PF prospect (Davis, Robinson, Drummond etc)

and IF we amnesty Lewis....

I wouldnt mind bringing in Green for a couple of years to be our starting SF.

There is no way i'd give him a long contract. Just enough to "prove himself" and try and get a big payday down the line.

If another team swoops in and offers him more, well good luck to them. Right now I dont think that it would be the right move for us to sign him to a big+long contract.

If we decide that Singleton (or MKG) isn't our small forward of the future, I'd go after Batum or Wilson Chandler before thinking about Green.


Oh hell yeah, I'd love those two here (in that order of preference). But IF they sign elsewhere....
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Post#997 » by 80sballboy » Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:02 am

Sounds like Ted just wants a Georgetown player on the roster since he's an alum. Green is a nice complimentary player but unfortunately we have about 7 of those.
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Post#998 » by jivelikenice » Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:55 am

I still don't see the downside in Green. He seemed to be really developing early in his career and had a strong 2nd season. He averaged 16.5 ppg, shot 45% from the field, shot 39% from the 3-pt line, and shot nearly 80% on free throws. The next season his shooting percentages dropped across the board as the volume of outside shots increased. He took more 3's & shot less free throws. Not coincidentally, this occurred alongside the emergence of Westbrook as a scoring option. It seems like Green became more of a catch & shoot guy which just isn't his game. The stats show he's at his best when he's attacking more and not just standing around. From his G'town days I always thought he's be a great point forward and in that role he might be able to get back on track here.

On top of that hes a young vet who's mature, won't force shots, will make the extra pass, and will fit into a team concept. His ability to initiate the offense from the forward position will also give John the opportunity to attack more and not feel the entire burden of getting everyone involved. If you draft a PF and sign Green to play the 3, I just don't see the downside. Between Singleton, Green, Vesely, and out first rd pick who I'm hoping will be Robinson :wink: , we'll be set with our forwards.
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Post#999 » by LyricalRico » Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:08 am

^ I'm with jive. Green seems like a great option if he's healthy and comes at the right price (admittedly two big "IFs"). When he was the second option to Durant the first couple years, he was fine. I'm not sure what the issue was in Boston, I guess he just wasn't a good fit. I absolutely think he could do for us what Thad Young does for Philly: multi-skilled-do-it-all combo forward with a high IQ that acts like the glue for the rest of the team. Singleton can be a "3-and-D" type of SF, but Green brings more skills to the table.
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Post#1000 » by pancakes3 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:12 am

seems like a decent player. josh-howard-5-seasons-ago level. not anyone i'm tripping over myself to sign, though but a good pickup if we get him on a reasonable contract.
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