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Re: McGee not getting extended? 

Post#21 » by Nivek » Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:34 pm

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Nivek wrote:No reason to extend. Still way too many questions about how good he's going to be. Play out the season and figure things out this summer.


What will happen is McGee will get a better offer than Washington is willing to pay. At best, the Wizards will sign and trade. At worst, they will lose McGee for nothing. No way will the Wizards pay more than what they are unwilling to pay now.

What won't happen is the Wizards resign McGee to a low ball offer.


Fine with me. McGee hasn't proven himself worthy of one of those 4-year, $40 million contracts. If he does show himself worthy over the remainder of the season, the Wizards can still sign him after the season.

I like McGee's potential, but he has to play better.
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Re: McGee not getting extended? 

Post#22 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:54 pm

Ruzious wrote:All it takes is 1 team to screw up, but... my guess is he ends up just like Nick - he and Pam will be expecting enormous offers in free agency, won't get any for even half of what they expected, and he'll end up signing the 1 year offer from the Wiz and try UFA the next year.


Nick is a SG who can very easily be replaced. Javale is a seven footer who plays alongside Andray Blatche. Other GMs will correctly conclude which player is worth more, unlike the Wizards.

I bet they could have signed him for four years at around $38M. Even if they had to go to $42M or $44M, it would have been reasonable. iThe bigger picture is that at $9-11M per season, Javale would still be tradable. The Wizards are paying Rashard $22M this season alone, but they didn't want to approach $10M for McGee.

Look around the league at what other players make.

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages ... izards.jsp

Boris Diaw and Corey Magette make that much. Horford, Johnson, and Smith all make more than 12M. Nene makes more than 13M. Bynum makes almost 15M per year. Bogut will average 13Mil the next 3 years. Rudy Gay and Zach Randolph will average over 16M the next 3 years. Marc Gasol just signed for 4 years, 57M. Tyson Chandler got 4 years, 55M and he plays with Amare and Melo, who will each make 83M over the next 4 years. David Lee is owed 68M over the next 5 years (more than Kevin Love's deal, BTW). Biedrins gets $9M per.

The Wizards did not want offer McGee near what DeAndre Jordan received (4 years, $43M.) :roll:
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Re: McGee not getting extended? 

Post#23 » by gesa2 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:23 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
The Wizards did not want offer McGee near what DeAndre Jordan received (4 years, $43M.) :roll:


Has that been reported?
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Re: McGee not getting extended? 

Post#24 » by miller31time » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:27 pm

The major thing in our favor (other than McGee being an UFA) is that the league perceives him to be much worse and much more boneheaded than he's actually played this season.

Don't get me wrong - he's isn't that good and he's still fairly boneheaded but not to the extremes the league has labeled him.
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Post#25 » by llcc25 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:45 pm

Lets look at it from this standpoint. What team out there has the cap space and would be willing to offer McGee a Deandre type contract this summer? I really don't see many teams that 1) have the cap space and 2) would be willing to commit that type of money to him unless he was the missing piece for the team So IMO, i think there will be a good shot that an offer from us for like 4 years $34m will be the best offer he'll see unless his play dramatically improves the rest of the season which i don't see happening.
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Re: McGee not getting extended? 

Post#26 » by FAH1223 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:49 pm

you all overrating McGee's prospects based on what McGee thinks he is worth
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Re: McGee not getting extended? 

Post#27 » by Ruzious » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:58 pm

I'm looking at Indiana - they're freaking 12-5 with Hibbert at center and a very average roster surrounding him. Granger's really their only other above average player - leads them with 16.5 PPG, West doesn't do much, their guards are just okay. Hibbert's got a PER of 21.3. Every year, he gets better - and this is after people keep saying he doesn't have much of a ceiling - he's a bad athlete, blablabla. Well, it's funny how these guys with supposedly low ceilings who do have high BBIQs just keep getting better and better - and actually help win games. Hibbert was picked 1 ahead of McGee in the draft. He's going to get the RFA money that people here still think McGee is going to get, and he's going to win games.
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Re: McGee not getting extended? 

Post#28 » by Ruzious » Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:01 pm

miller31time wrote:The major thing in our favor (other than McGee being an UFA) is that the league perceives him to be much worse and much more boneheaded than he's actually played this season.

Don't get me wrong - he's isn't that good and he's still fairly boneheaded but not to the extremes the league has labeled him.

I think he proved he is that boneheaded when he said he didn't understand why Flip got mad at him for throwing the ball off the backboard on his dunk a few games ago.
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Post#29 » by RT31 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:32 pm

would mcgee sign the extension even if it were offered? seems like he and Pam both want out of DC anyways.
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Re: McGee not getting extended? 

Post#30 » by LyricalRico » Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:35 pm

Ruzious wrote:
miller31time wrote:The major thing in our favor (other than McGee being an UFA) is that the league perceives him to be much worse and much more boneheaded than he's actually played this season.

Don't get me wrong - he's isn't that good and he's still fairly boneheaded but not to the extremes the league has labeled him.

I think he proved he is that boneheaded when he said he didn't understand why Flip got mad at him for throwing the ball off the backboard on his dunk a few games ago.


:nod:

And if nobody else will want to sign him because he's an idiot, then why should we?
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Re: McGee not getting extended? 

Post#31 » by Dat2U » Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:36 pm

Is Derrick Williams still available?

I remember reading over the summer regarding how smitten Minnesota's front office was with Javale.

I'd deal McGee for the right price. But I really don't want to. Definitely the Wizards should let it play out. An extension made no sense at this point considering the current state of the team.

Question to ask is McGee worth $10+ mil right now? If not, then how much is he really worth and is it worth overpaying him?
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Re: McGee not getting extended? 

Post#32 » by 7-Day Dray » Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:44 pm

According to WaPo, the Wizards plan on matching offers for him this summer.
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Re: McGee not getting extended? 

Post#33 » by Benjammin » Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:51 pm

Dat2U wrote:Is Derrick Williams still available?

I remember reading over the summer regarding how smitten Minnesota's front office was with Javale.

I'd deal McGee for the right price. But I really don't want to. Definitely the Wizards should let it play out. An extension made no sense at this point considering the current state of the team.

Question to ask is McGee worth $10+ mil right now? If not, then how much is he really worth and is it worth overpaying him?


Wolves' fans are violently opposed to a McGee for D. Williams deal, fwiw.
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Re: McGee not getting extended? 

Post#34 » by Illuminaire » Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:48 pm

The FO will always say that. It's a tactic to dissuade teams from putting in offers in the first place. Won't matter; EG is the master at bidding against himself.
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Re: McGee not getting extended? 

Post#35 » by Ruzious » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:25 pm

I think Minny is FINALLY realizing DWill can play the 3 and is going to be starting him over Wesley Johnson. Love and DWill together can eventually become the best forward pairing in the NBA, imo.
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Re: McGee not getting extended? 

Post#36 » by Zonkerbl » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:37 pm

I have a question. What is Javale's +- this year when he is not on the court with Blatche?
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Re: McGee not getting extended? 

Post#37 » by tontoz » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:46 pm

The time to trade for DWill was draft day. If the Wizards had given up Mcgee+6+17 i am confident they could have gotten him. I would have done that deal gladly.
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Re: McGee not getting extended? 

Post#38 » by FAH1223 » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:32 am

Ruzious wrote:I think Minny is FINALLY realizing DWill can play the 3 and is going to be starting him over Wesley Johnson. Love and DWill together can eventually become the best forward pairing in the NBA, imo.


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