Official Trade Thread XVIII: 1/20/12 - 5/14/12

[fishercob]

The Clippers are now a pretty natural destination for Young and while our offense will be in even more dire straights without him this season is such a lost cause already that I'm absolutely comfortable dealing him. Unfortunately the Clippers don't really have a great deal to offer and Bledsoe isn't particularly desirable from our perspective. I'm not sure what could be done to accommodate a Young-to-LA trade but it might have to involve finding another team to offer up something more interesting.

Yeah, I'd be a bit worried about our lineup with Young gone. Let's face it, this team can't win a game unless Young scores a ton from the SG spot. Without Young here, things would get really bleak. I'm all for tanking, but things would get downright depressing if we end up 10-56 or something awful like that.

I might consider it a bit closer to the Trade Deadline. And I like it a lot better if Bledsoe was flipped for some other young prospect at a position of need.

I don't care if we don't win another game this year if we can make a deal to improve our long term prospects. Wall and Booker can handle it. Crawford has been decidedly less sucky and could handle some more SG minutes. Sprinkle in a bit more of Evans and Mason, a bit of a Wall-Mack back court, and a D-league call-up who can stroke the J, and we may even finish 11-55.

Larry Bird made a really interesting comment in his podcast with Bill Simmons -- this AND next year's draft are supposedly weak in terms of PG's, so if you have a good point guard you should keep him. If we can get Bledsoe -- an asset with upside who may bring value back in a trade -- for Young, we should pull the trigger instantly. Bledsoe would likely get dealt again on draft night or over the summer, which is fine by me. Maybe he's part of a package to get us another 1st rounder or something.

Young may just allow the trade to go play for a hot team in his home town.

That said, I'd expect the Clips to just try to sign JR Smith outright before giving up an asset to rent Young before he hits free agency.

[Nivek]

First off, I agree with those who say that the Wizards should not make a single move where winning games this season is a consideration. This season is a lost cause, and whether they finish with 13 wins or 12 or 16 doesn't matter.

Second, if you can get something for Nick Young, do it. He's not an important part of the any long-term plan for the team. He's somebody to think about keeping around if he's cheap and you can't find anyone better for the short-term, but not a building block.

Third, trade ideas involving Young are really an academic discussion anyway. I don't think anyone's going to give up much to get him, AND he'd have to approve the deal.

[7-Day Dray]

First off, I agree with those who say that the Wizards should not make a single move where winning games this season is a consideration. This season is a lost cause, and whether they finish with 13 wins or 12 or 16 doesn't matter.

Second, if you can get something for Nick Young, do it. He's not an important part of the any long-term plan for the team. He's somebody to think about keeping around if he's cheap and you can't find anyone better for the short-term, but not a building block.

Third, trade ideas involving Young are really an academic discussion anyway. I don't think anyone's going to give up much to get him, AND he'd have to approve the deal.

+1

[tontoz]

If someone is considering the possiblity of signing Nick in the summer they might be willing to trade for him, especially if they are desperate for a 2, just to see how it works out before paying him.

The Wizards would really struggle to score without Nick. The tank would really be strong.

[fishercob]

Third, trade ideas involving Young are really an academic discussion anyway. I don't think anyone's going to give up much to get him, AND he'd have to approve the deal.

Isn't this all academic discussion?

With Billups out, the Clips may want Young. I can see them thinking that they're built to accentuate his strengths. I bet Young may look decent playing with Paul, Caron, Griffin and Jordan. Heck, I'd look good with those four.

I don't know if they'd think Bledsoe constituted "much," given that he's backing up the best PG in the world and they have Mo Williams too. He's been injured and has played just one minute this year.

Yes, Young would have to approve it. I could see him not doing so. But I could also see him consenting. His agent might say "yeah, you're going to lose your Bird rights but you're going to have the opportunity to play deep into the playoffs in an ideal situation. This could actually make you money this summer." Plus LA is Nick's home and he makes that known. There are plenty of NBA players who I have no idea where they're from. Nick identifies himself very publicly as an LA guy. He might just love the idea of playing at home.

[Nivek]

They're struggling to score WITH Young. The tank would be very strong.

[tontoz]

Third, trade ideas involving Young are really an academic discussion anyway. I don't think anyone's going to give up much to get him, AND he'd have to approve the deal.

Isn't this all academic discussion?

With Billups out, the Clips may want Young. I can see them thinking that they're built to accentuate his strengths. I bet Young may look decent playing with Paul, Caron, Griffin and Jordan. Heck, I'd look good with those four.

I don't know if they'd think Bledsoe constituted "much," given that he's backing up the best PG in the world and they have Mo Williams too. He's been injured and has played just one minute this year.

Yes, Young would have to approve it. I could see him not doing so. But I could also see him consenting. His agent might say "yeah, you're going to lose your Bird rights but you're going to have the opportunity to play deep into the playoffs in an ideal situation. This could actually make you money this summer." Plus LA is Nick's home and he makes that known. There are plenty of NBA players who I have no idea where they're from. Nick identifies himself very publicly as an LA guy. He might just love the idea of playing at home.

As I understand it we don't have his Bird rights since he signed the QO. I could definitely see him consenting to play in his hometown.

I also think he would be a better fit on a good team. They already have guys to rebound and distrubute. I think he would get more open looks and wouldn't be forced to create off the dribble nearly as often as he does here.

[Illuminaire]

If someone told Nick he was being traded to a warm-weather playoff team to space the floor for the greatest PG of his generation, and to possibly contend for an NBA title in his home town.... I'd have to think the odds of him saying "naaaah, it's DC for me" are slim to none.

[Dat2U]

My guess is Nick would sign off on a trade to any potential playoff team. He's got to know his days are numbered in DC. I could see him saying no to a place like NJ but going to LA would be an absolute no-brainer for him.

If the Wiz can get anything for Young, then they should do it while they still can.

[TGW]

Would it be so horrible if we traded Lewis and McGee for Ellis and Biedrins? We're not going to be players in free agency anyway...might as well get some overpaid, yet productive vets. I know Ellis and Wall are probably a pretty bad pairing, but we could use the scoring.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Ellis had 48 last night. Why would GS do that?

[Dat2U]

McGee going into the tank is really bad for us. He's killing his trade value right now.

Whatever his issue is (personally I think it's with Witt), he needs to get his head out of his ass.

Maybe it's time for a benching. Make McGee a 6th man again. Too bad we don't have anyone else that can masquerade as a passable center.

[FAH1223]

McGee is tanking in a contract year

[JonathanJoseph]

Wall, McGee and a 2nd for Eric Gordon, Chris Kaman, Grevis Vasquez and NOLA's 1st round pick in 2012.

[hands11]

McGee going into the tank is really bad for us. He's killing his trade value right now.

Whatever his issue is (personally I think it's with Witt), he needs to get his head out of his ass.

Maybe it's time for a benching. Make McGee a 6th man again. Too bad we don't have anyone else that can masquerade as a passable center.

When is Ronny due to return ?

I agree I think they are prime to make a move. I can see it happening any day now. This thing need a infusion of different talent on the team. They changed coaches, but that wasnt really the te biggest problem. They need a knuckhead cleaning.

At one level they need talent. At another, they need the right personalities. The mold should be Booker. It seems Ves has the right motor. I think he will eventually work out. I think Mack and Ronny do also. I think Singleton does but I am starting to wonder what his talent level will be. I think KS will eventually work out fine as a roll player back up. So they have some pieces.

But Nick and McGee need moved. And at a dead min, cut Mason already and bring in someone, anyone who can shoot. If they clear out Mason and trade Nick and McGee, they have to be able to bring think worth keeping.

Can we trade Singleton for Brooks ?


And what is the real Singleton doing. Bring him home from China.

[hands11]

With Billups out for the season, would you guys be interested in an Eric Bledsoe for Nick Young swap? You get a sophomore guard with potential. Plus he played with Wall at Kentucky.

I'd be interested in that deal. I think there's a high chance Nick is gone after the season since he's UFA, so we should try to get some value for him. He'd be happy going back to his hometown, and you guys need a guard that can score since Billups is out. We could always use more depth, and I think Bledsoe has potential to become a Kyle Lowry-type off the bench. I think it's a good deal for both teams.

I liked Bledsoe. I think that would be good for Wall. It would help ground him. EB off loaded some of the PG duties when he played with Wall and he hit a lot of open long balls.

http://www.nba.com/wizards/video/2012/0 ... P4-1994393

Sounds like the are looking for a forward come the trade deadline.

[theboomking]

wrong thread. Sorry.

[rl25g]

My latest

NO trade: Ariza, Okafor, Gordon, Min pick
Wz Trade: McGee, Lewis, Crawford, 2012 Second, Future 1st.

NJ Trade: Farmar, Petro
Wiz Trade: Turiaf, Vesley, Mack

Clippers Trade: Bledsoe
Wiz trade Young:

Draft Barnes, Zeller

Wall/Farmar/Bledsoe
Gordon/Barnes/Farmar
Ariza/Barnes/Singleton
Booker/Blatche
Okafor/Zeller/Petro

This trade allows us to compete and play baseketball with actual basketball players, while developing yougn talent such as Barnes (super 6th man, and Zeller (future Center ?) . We also have viable trade assests after next season with Ariza and Okafor expiring, and Bledsoe.

I am in full belief now that we need competent basketball players and am even willing to get overpaid guys for our next draft picks to play under. At this point everyone outside of Wall, Booker and our 2012 pick should be on the table for this years trade deadline to improve the team both short term and longterm.

[TGW]

The Hornets wouldn't touch that deal.

[dlts20]

This has got to be false, doesnt it?

anyway, a Portland radio report -- relayed by a Phoenix sports-talk radio guy -- had the Lakers sending the aforementioned Fisher and Artest to the Washington Wizards, the Wiz unloading Andray Blatche and JaVale McGee on the Suns, and the Suns whisking Nash to Hollywood. I suppose Phoenix also would land one of those L.A. draft picks.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1059 ... steve-nash