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Re: Markieff Morris 

Post#21 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:52 am

ma_falaa_50 wrote:he is a rookie, he will have a rollercoaster season. he is doing better than channing but lets not kid our selves. he is not a star.

I don't think anyone is delusional enough to think that.
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Re: Markieff Morris 

Post#22 » by MathiasPW » Tue Feb 7, 2012 12:38 pm

Why do we need to judge a kid in his first few games and try to forecast his whole future as a NBA player?

the odds that any of these comparisons turns to be true is ridiculously low. Trading him assuming people will price in the uncertainty of his skill in our favor is also nonsense.

He's doing fine, showing up in Rookie Ladder at ESPN every now and then, scoring, rebounding....let him play.
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Re: Markieff Morris 

Post#23 » by DRK » Tue Feb 7, 2012 1:35 pm

ma_falaa_50 wrote:he is a rookie, he will have a rollercoaster season. he is doing better than channing but lets not kid our selves. he is not a star.


I dont see how you can predict that he will never be a star 25 games into his NBA career.

He is doing everything you want him to do as a rookie, and more.

The sky is the limit for thsi kid. Who knows what will happen in the next decade and a half.
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Re: Markieff Morris 

Post#24 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Feb 7, 2012 10:11 pm

DRK wrote:
ma_falaa_50 wrote:he is a rookie, he will have a rollercoaster season. he is doing better than channing but lets not kid our selves. he is not a star.


I dont see how you can predict that he will never be a star 25 games into his NBA career.

He is doing everything you want him to do as a rookie, and more.

The sky is the limit for thsi kid. Who knows what will happen in the next decade and a half.


You honestly think he has star potential?

I don't see it.
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Re: Markieff Morris 

Post#25 » by DRK » Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:23 am

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DRK wrote:
ma_falaa_50 wrote:he is a rookie, he will have a rollercoaster season. he is doing better than channing but lets not kid our selves. he is not a star.


I dont see how you can predict that he will never be a star 25 games into his NBA career.

He is doing everything you want him to do as a rookie, and more.

The sky is the limit for thsi kid. Who knows what will happen in the next decade and a half.


You honestly think he has star potential?

I don't see it.


No one saw it in Nash 25 games into his first season..... Same with Rondo, or Arenas.....

My point is that anytihng is possible in the next 15 years in the NBA for Markieff.
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Post#26 » by NiGhtWiSh » Wed Feb 8, 2012 11:20 am

Sky is the limit for Keef. Damn Philly baller. Point.
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Post#27 » by raff » Wed Feb 8, 2012 1:13 pm

DRK wrote:
ma_falaa_50 wrote:he is a rookie, he will have a rollercoaster season. he is doing better than channing but lets not kid our selves. he is not a star.


I dont see how you can predict that he will never be a star 25 games into his NBA career.

He is doing everything you want him to do as a rookie, and more.

The sky is the limit for thsi kid. Who knows what will happen in the next decade and a half.


That is the most important point. He is giving the team more production than we've had in a while from a rookie. He's proving himself to be versatile and serviceable.

Give him some time to get past the "rookie hump" stage, and then let's see how he progresses from there.
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Post#28 » by ma_falaa_50 » Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:05 pm

Kieff is servicable. I think he has shown to be what channing frye should be but its another thing to think that this guy could be a star. Amare brought it since day 1 so did Nash. Nash just didnt have as much opportunity to show his ability because he had KJ and J-kidd. Kieff doesnt have anyone in the team at his position that has a star quality. I think he is porductive just not the star that phx needs.
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Re: Markieff Morris 

Post#29 » by gaspar » Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:54 pm

Markieff Morris was one of nine rookies selected to play in All-Star Weekend's Rising Stars Challenge.
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Post#30 » by rsavaj » Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:43 pm

Let's trade him for a 1st round pick.

And then let's trade the rookie we pick for a first round pick.

And then let's trade that rookie for a first round pick.

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Re: Markieff Morris 

Post#31 » by RunDogGun » Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:00 pm

rsavaj wrote:Let's trade him for a 1st round pick.

And then let's trade the rookie we pick for a first round pick.

And then let's trade that rookie for a first round pick.

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Re: Markieff Morris 

Post#32 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:47 pm

DRK wrote:No one saw it in Nash 25 games into his first season..... Same with Rondo, or Arenas.....

My point is that anytihng is possible in the next 15 years in the NBA for Markieff.


No one saw Telfair being the bust that he is either. But hey, still have 8 years to turn him into a star before the 15 year mark when we can finally and without a doubt, label him a bust.

Some people just don't have star potential. But so what? A lot of players don't have star potential but they are still excellent players. I don't see why we have to put these expectations on rookies. It's not like he's the #1 pick where it's star or bust.
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Post#33 » by JohnVancouver » Thu Feb 9, 2012 2:22 am

NiGhtWiSh wrote:Sky is the limit for Keef. Damn Philly baller. Point.


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Re: Markieff Morris 

Post#34 » by Revived » Thu Feb 9, 2012 2:48 am

He made the rookie-sophomores game didn't he?
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Post#35 » by DRK » Thu Feb 9, 2012 1:32 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:
DRK wrote:No one saw it in Nash 25 games into his first season..... Same with Rondo, or Arenas.....

My point is that anytihng is possible in the next 15 years in the NBA for Markieff.


No one saw Telfair being the bust that he is either. But hey, still have 8 years to turn him into a star before the 15 year mark when we can finally and without a doubt, label him a bust.

Some people just don't have star potential. But so what? A lot of players don't have star potential but they are still excellent players. I don't see why we have to put these expectations on rookies. It's not like he's the #1 pick where it's star or bust.


I have no expectation of Markieff being a star. The initial arguement was whether he was a star or not. He is not a star, and he may never be. But to write someone off of EVER being a star in the NBa careers, this early into their first season, is just ridiculous to me.

There is no pressure on Markieff. I am overly happy with him now. He is not expected to be a star, but who knows, sometime down the track he could be. That doesnt mean I EXPECT him to be a star.
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Re: Markieff Morris 

Post#36 » by MrMiyagi » Thu Feb 9, 2012 6:57 pm

It doesn't matter if the kid will be a star or not. He's played well in his first season and is a part of our future, stardom or not.
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Re: Markieff Morris 

Post#37 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Feb 9, 2012 10:38 pm

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DRK wrote:No one saw it in Nash 25 games into his first season..... Same with Rondo, or Arenas.....

My point is that anytihng is possible in the next 15 years in the NBA for Markieff.


No one saw Telfair being the bust that he is either. But hey, still have 8 years to turn him into a star before the 15 year mark when we can finally and without a doubt, label him a bust.

Some people just don't have star potential. But so what? A lot of players don't have star potential but they are still excellent players. I don't see why we have to put these expectations on rookies. It's not like he's the #1 pick where it's star or bust.


I have no expectation of Markieff being a star. The initial arguement was whether he was a star or not. He is not a star, and he may never be. But to write someone off of EVER being a star in the NBa careers, this early into their first season, is just ridiculous to me.

There is no pressure on Markieff. I am overly happy with him now. He is not expected to be a star, but who knows, sometime down the track he could be. That doesnt mean I EXPECT him to be a star.

The expectations are insinuated when you bring up names like Nash, Rondo and Arenas, guys who came in with not fairly low expectations and turned into stars. Certainly not calling him a bust since I am very happy with his development thus far (I still think he should have more minutes to play with the 2nd unit so he can learn without Nash's spoon feeding) and want to see him keep it up.
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Re: Markieff Morris 

Post#38 » by RunDogGun » Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:17 am

I don't mind Morris getting Nash-less minutes, but when Gentry is having those minutes with Telfair, what's the point (sorry no pun intended.)

I still would like to do the Lopez for Lou trade, and move Frye to the five off the bench. That would mean that Morris would be the starter. But that makes sense, since he really is our only PF.

I would move Hill to the bench and start Chilldress in his place. So you run Nash, Dudley, Chilldress, Morris, Gortat, that way even though Nash is there, Morris plays with guys that will most likely still be on the team next year. Bench becomes Price, part Redd part Brown, Hill, Lou, Frye. Warrick and Telfair only see the floor when absolutely needed. Fire Gentry, let our Russian assistant finish the year.

If he does well, sign him for another year, but only one. All the while search for a new head coach. Actually, I would like to try a Laimbeer head coach, with Hornacek as lead assistant. I would hire Kareem as our big man coach, or if we could Hakeem. Hire a whole new scouting team, trying to get as many Spur scouts as I could, overpY them if you had to, it doesn't affect the cap. Keep our training staff at all costs.

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