The Official Draft Thread

SunZel · Post #201 » by **SunZel** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:09 pm

Wonder why no one talks about Moe Harkless. He is pretty good.

Ryu · Post #202 » by **Ryu** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:32 pm

Harkless is a good shout, indeed. I`d put him in my favorite non-lottery players but I have a feeling he`s staying at St. John`s for one more year.

But if he decides to enter upcoming draft he could be one of the sleepers.

MrMiyagi · Post #203 » by **MrMiyagi** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:45 pm

SunZel wrote:Drummond scares the crap out of me....NO WAY i take that chance at the second pick. I'm going with my man Harrison Barnes!

Any pick after that I'm taking Lamb

With Drummond, there is a risk, but he has huge upside. If we keep Nash, he would become Amare 2.0. Although he might stay Amare 2.0 or he could learn to be an agressive rebounder and defender and become scary good. I think he's worth the risk.

SunZel · Post #204 » by **SunZel** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:42 am

I feel as though we have no choice but to go after a sg because, we need a scorer

phx#7 · Post #205 » by **phx#7** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:57 am

SunZel wrote:I feel as though we have no choice but to go after a sg because, we need a scorer

Maybe in the NFL I can sort of see the argument of drafting for need, but not in basketball. There really is no excuse for not going after the guy you feel has the best long term projection. If you're relying on a rookie going into the season you're already screwed.

Trying to fill a need gets you guys like Alando Tucker and Robin Lopez.

MrMiyagi · Post #206 » by **MrMiyagi** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:59 am

phx#7 wrote:
SunZel wrote:I feel as though we have no choice but to go after a sg because, we need a scorer

Maybe in the NFL I can sort of see the argument of drafting for need, but not in basketball. There really is no excuse for not going after the guy you feel has the best long term projection. If you're relying on a rookie going into the season you're already screwed.

Trying to fill a need gets you guys like Alando Tucker and Robin Lopez.

I mean, at some point in the draft you do need to look at need, but that's more for the 20's till the end of the draft. Especially in the lotto, you have got to get best player/talent available.

phx#7 · Post #207 » by **phx#7** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:08 am

MrMiyagi wrote:I mean, at some point in the draft you do need to look at need, but that's more for the 20's till the end of the draft. Especially in the lotto, you have got to get best player/talent available.

I just disagree. Hitting on a late round or 2nd round pick(especially if you're a good team picking late) has far more value to your team than some stop gap.

Post #208 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:57 pm

SunZel wrote:I feel as though we have no choice but to go after a sg because, we need a scorer

I agree. I miss having a player like Joe Johnson, and to a lesser extent, JRich. If we don't win the lottery and have a chance at Anthony Davis, I say we have to take the best sg on the board. MKG would be hard to pass up if he is there, but maybe we won't have to make that choice and can just go with Beal at around #8-9.

LBCsun49 · Post #209 » by **LBCsun49** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:02 am

MKG is not as good as ya'll make him out to be! Barnes is a better player

i hope we get two later picks and maybe trade them both for a higher pick.

if not

our pick

BARNES

pick via trade

Marshall or Moultrie!

SunZel · Post #210 » by **SunZel** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:51 am

Saw on the general draft board that MKG wants to stay all four years.

Avp115 · Post #211 » by **Avp115** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:15 am

SunZel wrote:Saw on the general draft board that MKG wants to stay all four years.

I see him leaving early. Calipari tends to push his baby birds out of the nest after one year, plus Kentucky has a good chance of winning the tournament.

Calvin Klein · Post #212 » by **Calvin Klein** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:36 am

http://espn.go.com/nba/lottery2012/mockdraft

all results i get are the Suns picking Jeremy Lamb. Is he good?

SunZel · Post #213 » by **SunZel** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:11 pm

The whole draft can be changed by 1 or 2 lottery players deciding to stay.

Harrison Barnes will stay unless he wins a championship, and MKG and Austin Rivers are questionable.

Jeremy Lamb is good just not aggressive enough on offense.

Avp115 · Post #214 » by **Avp115** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:26 pm

SunZel wrote:The whole draft can be changed by 1 or 2 lottery players deciding to stay.

Harrison Barnes will stay unless he wins a championship, and MKG and Austin Rivers are questionable.

Jeremy Lamb is good just not aggressive enough on offense.

Rivers will stay. Barnes will not win the championship but will still declare. MKG will win the championship and declare. I think Coach K keeps Rivers around for at least another year.

JohnVancouver · Post #215 » by **JohnVancouver** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:12 pm

SunZel wrote:Drummond scares the crap out of me....NO WAY i take that chance at the second pick. I'm going with my man Harrison Barnes!

Any pick after that I'm taking Lamb

Have to agree that Drummond has been underwhelming - ideally, he should stay in college.

finally watched the SYR/UConn game I've had tivo'd forever - Melo looks good, as does that kid Kris Josef

RunDogGun · Post #216 » by **RunDogGun** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:35 am

Wiretap says MKG intends to stay at Kentucky beyond this season.

MrMiyagi · Post #217 » by **MrMiyagi** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:40 am

RunDogGun wrote:Wiretap says MKG intends to stay at Kentucky beyond this season.

I think he'll come around and declare.

TheMan44 · Post #218 » by **TheMan44** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:14 am

Well, it's official: The 2012 stinks.

GMs and scouts have come out saying Drummond, P Jones, Rivers, T Jones, Sullinger have not shown much improvement. (http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... Draft_Pool)

And guys like Barnes and MKG will most likely go back to school.

All those who keep talking about having 2012 draft picks - think its time to cool those talks. If anything, trade the pick and get multiple ones for 2013 and/or incoming players in their prime this coming offseason.

Frank Lee · Post #219 » by **Frank Lee** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:24 am

TheMan44 wrote:Well, it's official: The 2012 stinks.

GMs and scouts have come out saying Drummond, P Jones, Rivers, T Jones, Sullinger have not shown much improvement. (http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... Draft_Pool)

And guys like Barnes and MKG will most likely go back to school.

All those who keep talking about having 2012 draft picks - think its time to cool those talks. If anything, trade the pick and get multiple ones for 2013 and/or incoming players in their prime this coming offseason.

The Draft is the 'centerfold' for the common fan. Leaves many drooling/wishing...

@JVC.... have you watched that Moultrie kid from Miss St ?

JohnVancouver · Post #220 » by **JohnVancouver** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:36 pm

No, not yet but he's on the "to watch" list

I was interested to see how much Drummond fluctuates from very impressive to head-shakingly inept.
When he's on, he's terrifying.

More and more I'm thinking someone wil be very happy with Zeller .... I am always wrong in my assessment of blue-collar white guys. Hansbrough, McRoberts, Hayward .... all solid picks. I still think Mullens will come around. Spencer Hawes is another.