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Amare finally addresses lack of explosion / poor play

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Re: Amare finally addresses lack of explosion / poor play 

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Re: Amare finally addresses lack of explosion / poor play 

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Post#23 » by knicksosmoove » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:33 pm

Jmonty580 wrote:Its not just timing. Him getting his shot stuffed by everyone in the league isnt timing. Maybe its his weight, that might explain it. Timing could have to do with his shot being off though. At the very least i hope he comes back hitting jump shots that he normally does. That alone would help us a TON.


the paint is really a lot more crowded this year than it was last year though . . . amar'e got better spacing than any star other than dwight last year. plus felton got him the ball farther away from the basket so he could be on the move. now you see lin, tyson, and amar'e all crowded together under the basket. tyson doesn't get blocked much because he's usually the tallest/longest player on the court, but it's tough for amar'e when there are 3/4 defenders in there with him.

I'm not trying to delude myself here about Amar'e--he definitely isn't moving as well as last year--but there are circumstances surrounding his play. the quality of his looks are completely different than they were last year.
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Post#24 » by makeitstop » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:35 pm

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Re: Amare finally addresses lack of explosion / poor play 

Post#25 » by knicksosmoove » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:37 pm

also, amar'e is the only player in the history of the nba who thinks it's a good idea to face-up on the low post. seriously, who does that. it's a lot easier to get space if you put your butt into your defender, amar'e . . .

if amar'e were to start posting up, 1, 2 possessions a game whenever he has a small forward guarding him in the low post, I would be so happy.
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Re: Amare finally addresses lack of explosion / poor play 

Post#26 » by blumatic » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:43 pm

knicksosmoove wrote:also, amar'e is the only player in the history of the nba who thinks it's a good idea to face-up on the low post. seriously, who does that. it's a lot easier to get space if you put your butt into your defender, amar'e . . .

if amar'e were to start posting up, 1, 2 possessions a game whenever he has a small forward guarding him in the low post, I would be so happy.



Agreed. I dont think he will ever have the weight to move an opponent but there are many ways to post. Position an seal ur man.
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Re: Amare finally addresses lack of explosion / poor play 

Post#27 » by Extortion1 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:43 pm

i just want his jump shot to be back. that shouldnt be too much to ask for
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Re: Amare finally addresses lack of explosion / poor play 

Post#28 » by iDunk » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:43 pm

I think he's just making excuses. If he didn't play basketball for the whole lockout almost then why wasn't it being reported? It was just being reported that he has back issues nothing about no basketball activity.

I still believe in STAT and that he'll turn it up, but excuses coming from stars just bother me sometimes.
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Re: Amare finally addresses lack of explosion / poor play 

Post#29 » by Kampuchea » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:44 pm

knicksosmoove wrote:also, amar'e is the only player in the history of the nba who thinks it's a good idea to face-up on the low post. seriously, who does that. it's a lot easier to get space if you put your butt into your defender, amar'e . . .

if amar'e were to start posting up, 1, 2 possessions a game whenever he has a small forward guarding him in the low post, I would be so happy.


that is a terrible idea. His moves are going around the player with his first step or taking the jumper.
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Re: Amare finally addresses lack of explosion / poor play 

Post#30 » by Jmonty580 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:44 pm

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Jmonty580 wrote:Its not just timing. Him getting his shot stuffed by everyone in the league isnt timing. Maybe its his weight, that might explain it. Timing could have to do with his shot being off though. At the very least i hope he comes back hitting jump shots that he normally does. That alone would help us a TON.


the paint is really a lot more crowded this year than it was last year though . . . amar'e got better spacing than any star other than dwight last year. plus felton got him the ball farther away from the basket so he could be on the move. now you see lin, tyson, and amar'e all crowded together under the basket. tyson doesn't get blocked much because he's usually the tallest/longest player on the court, but it's tough for amar'e when there are 3/4 defenders in there with him.

I'm not trying to delude myself here about Amar'e--he definitely isn't moving as well as last year--but there are circumstances surrounding his play. the quality of his looks are completely different than they were last year.


Fair points and I agree with the spacing, but he is claerly not getting the same lift period, and thats affecting his ability to get off his shot. That affects his game. I remember him straight for a midrange jump shot this season and just having his shot thrown right back in his face. Thats just him not getting lift plain and simple.
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Re: Amare finally addresses lack of explosion / poor play 

Post#31 » by Stannis » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:44 pm

He needs to hook up with the Dream this summer and learn some post moves for next summer.
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Re: Amare finally addresses lack of explosion / poor play 

Post#32 » by GONYK » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:44 pm

iDunk wrote:I think he's just making excuses. If he didn't play basketball for the whole lockout almost then why wasn't it being reported? It was just being reported that he has back issues nothing about no basketball activity.

I still believe in STAT and that he'll turn it up, but excuses coming from stars just bother me sometimes.

It was reported then too
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Re: Amare finally addresses lack of explosion / poor play 

Post#33 » by Marty McFly » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:44 pm

considering his knee "thing" i have no idea why he added on weight in the first place.

knicksosmoove wrote:also, amar'e is the only player in the history of the nba who thinks it's a good idea to face-up on the low post. seriously, who does that. it's a lot easier to get space if you put your butt into your defender, amar'e . . .

if amar'e were to start posting up, 1, 2 possessions a game whenever he has a small forward guarding him in the low post, I would be so happy.

i learned how to post up by the time i was 12. to think that a professional basketball player, much less a frontcourt player doesn't or can't sounds ridiculous to me. i just don't understand it.
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Re: Amare finally addresses lack of explosion / poor play 

Post#34 » by Sideline Story » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:45 pm

I hope this isn't coming as a surprise to anyone.
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Re: Amare finally addresses lack of explosion / poor play 

Post#35 » by ORANGEandBLUE » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:45 pm

So if Stat is in a confessional mood can we get him to acknowledge that he's a poor defender even when healthy?
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Re: Amare finally addresses lack of explosion / poor play 

Post#36 » by PrecociousNeoph » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:46 pm

at least its not his back... thats all i care about
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Re: Amare finally addresses lack of explosion / poor play 

Post#37 » by Kampuchea » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:47 pm

Sideline Story wrote:I hope this isn't coming as a surprise to anyone.


i would approximate 80% of this board placed blame on other things besides his offseason rehab. Not sure whats wrong with people
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Re: Amare finally addresses lack of explosion / poor play 

Post#38 » by GONYK » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:48 pm

Marty McFly wrote:considering his knee "thing" i have no idea why he added on weight in the first place.

knicksosmoove wrote:also, amar'e is the only player in the history of the nba who thinks it's a good idea to face-up on the low post. seriously, who does that. it's a lot easier to get space if you put your butt into your defender, amar'e . . .

if amar'e were to start posting up, 1, 2 possessions a game whenever he has a small forward guarding him in the low post, I would be so happy.

i learned how to post up by the time i was 12. to think that a professional basketball player, much less a frontcourt player doesn't or can't sounds ridiculous to me. i just don't understand it.

No wonder you've had such a long and successful NBA career :roll:
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Post#39 » by Sideline Story » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:52 pm

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Sideline Story wrote:I hope this isn't coming as a surprise to anyone.


i would approximate 80% of this board placed blame on other things besides his offseason rehab. Not sure whats wrong with people


Yep. It must be a major patience issue.
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Re: Amare finally addresses lack of explosion / poor play 

Post#40 » by Marty McFly » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:54 pm

GONYK wrote:
Marty McFly wrote:considering his knee "thing" i have no idea why he added on weight in the first place.

knicksosmoove wrote:also, amar'e is the only player in the history of the nba who thinks it's a good idea to face-up on the low post. seriously, who does that. it's a lot easier to get space if you put your butt into your defender, amar'e . . .

if amar'e were to start posting up, 1, 2 possessions a game whenever he has a small forward guarding him in the low post, I would be so happy.

i learned how to post up by the time i was 12. to think that a professional basketball player, much less a frontcourt player doesn't or can't sounds ridiculous to me. i just don't understand it.

No wonder you've had such a long and successful NBA career :roll:


what the **** is this even supposed to mean? its the exact opposite. which is the point. can't spend one day on real gm without gonyk typing with a stick up his ass.
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