POLL: Is Ryan Anderson Untouchable

[rcklsscognition]

He may not be untouchable but "touching" him (umm so to speak ) could lead to a near nightmare scenario -

Dwight won't commit until there is a trade and he can still choose to not commit after the trade so you could end up giving up Ryan for a player that though might be good is not as good for a rebuilding team

Martins said they are pushing for a decision by Dwight before the trade deadline. I don't think they do anything without commitment from Dwight. The scenario I think comes up is on March 1st they met with Dwight and discussed some possible trades. Dwight told them go after Ellis, Nash, etc. FO works out some deals and has them in place and then calls in Dwight for a meeting. They lay out the proposals and then ask for his commitment. I guess there is always a scenario where Dwight says he'll stay, and then something happens between now and July and he darts for FA. That would suck.

[Mr13A]

I'd be devistated to see him go.

[G-Heel]

No. Not sure we should give him up for Nash or Ellis though.

[AGNT190]

No one is untouchable in the nba. It's just a question of how much return you would need to pull the trigger. You can't say you wouldn't trade Dwight if OKC offered Durant, Harden, Ebaka, and Perkins for Dwight and filler. Would that ever happen? No. But if it was offered Orlando would trade Howard in a heartbeat. Is ryan untouchable? No. Does trading him require a major piece coming back? Yes. But if we could get Nash Lopez and hill ( all expirings) for a package centered around Ryno. It has to be done. I am not a huge Ellis fan but if it kept Dwight in Orlando, I'd do it. Or if NJ discovered that deron wasn't gonna resign and put him on the market, Orlando would be insane not to try and get him using ryan. Shoot i'd consider moving him if he could bring back rondo or pierce. Aside from those players, there isn't anyone on the market I'd trade him for at this point.

[SubyWill]

No.

Is he untouchable in a trade for Ellis or Nash? Yes.

[magicman123]

Are you really asking if Ryan Anderson is untouchable? Of course he isn't , not all trades make sense and it could hurt trading a young player like him, but if it makes sense you trade him, he might even be an all star one day but he will be a complimentary player, if he can be moved for a player that creates you do it cause that's not him, no matter how efficient he is, I don't want to trade him for the hell of it cause he is a great young player, but If he helps net a player we really need than yes

[Blue_and_Whte]

I almost peed when I read this...HELL NO Ryan is NOT untouchable. If it's for Nash he's untouchable, if it's for a player like Ellis who in turn helps Dwight stay in Orlando I would trade his ass before they could even finish saying Monta Ellis. lol@ untouchable.

[turk3d]

I almost peed when I read this...HELL NO Ryan is NOT untouchable. If it's for Nash he's untouchable, if it's for a player like Ellis who in turn helps Dwight stay in Orlando I would trade his ass before they could even finish saying Monta Ellis. lol@ untouchable.

Warrior fan here. Was just reading a couple of your threads and saw this one. FYI, I don't think that Anderson is essential in a trade between you guys and the Warriors (although he's probably the most valuable trade piece you have other than Dwight). Reason being is that we have David Lee playing the same position (and a solid backup in Epke Udoh).

However, the problem is that you have little else that would be of much interest and that's the problem. We don't want JRich (bee there, done that, we actually traded him in favor of Monta) and really have no interest in Redick (who I acknowledge is a good player).

I think the only way you get Monta is that you're going to have to dangle some of those players you have to a 3rd team that might have interest and get back some players that would interest us in order to make something happen.

Otherwise, it's going to be pretty touhg. And FWIW, I'd much rather see you guys keep Dwight than to see him go to one of these other teams who are trying to steal him from you. Best of luck in all this. Also, personally I'm a big fan of Monta and would love to see him get the opportunity to play alongside of Dwight in an environment such as yours and with a coach like Van Gundy.

And BTW, I'd say PG is where you'd want to play Monta, where he's been recently moved to on the Warriors with the absence of Curry. You're right some of you, playing the point would help his defense tremendously since he has the speed to keep up with the majority of point guards he'd be playing against. You guys just need to come up with the right package to satisfy the Warriors FO.

[drsd]

Anderson is one of the better NBA players on a low-end rookie dael. This is what makes him so attractive in a trade to other teams.

After Anderson's next deal, likely to be in a 6-9M per year range, he is no longer an attractive chip.

So, yes Anderson is tradeable.

[Orlando Dawg]

Of course he is untouchable. Guys like Ryan Anderson / Pat Garrity are what the Magic are all about.

If Dwight leaves, the Magic will just find another center to put around Ryan.

[Viper1500]

Anderson is one of the better NBA players on a low-end rookie dael. This is what makes him so attractive in a trade to other teams.

After Anderson's next deal, likely to be in a 6-9M per year range, he is no longer an attractive chip.

So, yes Anderson is tradeable.

This was also my opinion

[Horcy]

Ryans "break out" season just happens to be the year he's playing for a new check....

I don't think he's doing this because he's on a contract year. he's just getting more time, and, he's also improving every year.

I totally agree with you. This is the first season Ryan is recieving consistant minutes. He also surprised everyone (maybe even himself) with his improvements on every facet of the game.

[r3demption]

Imo he's untouchable in a trade involving Steve Nash. In a trade involving Monta Ellis if it takes Ryno being traded to make it happen, do it.

[Kevaroo]

Well maybe Dwight said to management that he wants to keep RA. Then he is untouchable.

[Reverse_Angle]

I almost peed when I read this...HELL NO Ryan is NOT untouchable. If it's for Nash he's untouchable, if it's for a player like Ellis who in turn helps Dwight stay in Orlando I would trade his ass before they could even finish saying Monta Ellis. lol@ untouchable.

Warrior fan here. Was just reading a couple of your threads and saw this one. FYI, I don't think that Anderson is essential in a trade between you guys and the Warriors (although he's probably the most valuable trade piece you have other than Dwight). Reason being is that we have David Lee playing the same position (and a solid backup in Epke Udoh).

However, the problem is that you have little else that would be of much interest and that's the problem. We don't want JRich (bee there, done that, we actually traded him in favor of Monta) and really have no interest in Redick (who I acknowledge is a good player).

I think the only way you get Monta is that you're going to have to dangle some of those players you have to a 3rd team that might have interest and get back some players that would interest us in order to make something happen.

Otherwise, it's going to be pretty touhg. And FWIW, I'd much rather see you guys keep Dwight than to see him go to one of these other teams who are trying to steal him from you. Best of luck in all this. Also, personally I'm a big fan of Monta and would love to see him get the opportunity to play alongside of Dwight in an environment such as yours and with a coach like Van Gundy.

And BTW, I'd say PG is where you'd want to play Monta, where he's been recently moved to on the Warriors with the absence of Curry. You're right some of you, playing the point would help his defense tremendously since he has the speed to keep up with the majority of point guards he'd be playing against. You guys just need to come up with the right package to satisfy the Warriors FO.

So you are turkish and is a fan of some other team that has nothing to do with hedo? Sir, you are shaking the core belief system of a few posters here.

other than that, i agree. To me, Ryno + JJ + something (cash, pick; etc) should get it done purely on the value perspective, but obviously we need to put together a package that you guys need and/or can flip.

[eyriq]

I have an exercise for everyone that voted NO

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[drsd]

I have an exercise for everyone that voted NO

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Anderson is currently the #5 PF in PER
ESPN LINK

He is above, for example, Milsap, Nowitzki, Gasol, Garnett, Boozer, Lee, Bosh, J-Smith, Varejao, and Gooden.

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[Bensational]

I have an exercise for everyone that voted NO

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Ryan is great, but he's not a good 2nd option at this point. he's the ultimate 3rd option, but unfortunately he's our 2nd option and he's not good enough to maintain that role and keep us as an elite, contending team.

i have an exercise for you. go here

click through every player with a PER above Anderson's, (notably big men), and compare the %AST rates between them all.

for those too lazy, the results are that Anderson is assisted on 76% of his shots, whilst most of the other players are down around the 50's, and at most the mid 60's.

this isn't a discredit to Anderson at all, it just highlights that how he's being used is as a 3rd option - a bail out. we still need that 2nd option who can go get points on their own, without needing other players to set them up.

[damo[23]]

He's not because he is our main piece of bait outside of Dwight.

Basically for me, we either keep Dwight (what we want to do) or Anderson (meaning we need to get a new #1 and probably #2 in return).

Jameer is one we will package, Redick is the other main "bait" we have, neither of those are good enough to get what we need to convince Dwight to stay. Even Jameer, J-Rich and Redick might well not be enough for that Ellis level player (though I'd not give them up for Nash, waaaay too short term that.)

Like I say though if we have to bite the bullet and just trade Dwight so he doesn't Shaq us, Anderson is going to be one of the people we begin to rebuild around. He won't be a first option, but he'll probably be a 20ppg+ scorer. I imagine if we do rebuild around him (+who ever we get in the Dwight trade) then we'd end up being the new D'Antoni sun's - just try and out gun the other team with very little defence. There's no way we have as good D once Dwight goes, so I figure we are just going to end up being a run and gun team.

The biggest concern for me by far is the risk we have in blowing up the team to make Dwight happy. Right now I almost feel like nothing will keep him, and we end up shipping off a ton of assets and end up being something like Nash/xxx/Hedo/xxx/xxx in the offseason and just crippled. I almost hope that Otis has Dwight in the room when he's on the phones, "psst Dwight, this is a trade we have ... would you stay if I make this ..."

At least if we do lose Dwight I am going to Team GB vs Team US at the Olympics, so I can throw my jerseys at him if he leaves.

[eyriq]

I have an exercise for everyone that voted NO

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Ryan is great, but he's not a good 2nd option at this point. he's the ultimate 3rd option, but unfortunately he's our 2nd option and he's not good enough to maintain that role and keep us as an elite, contending team.

i have an exercise for you. go here

click through every player with a PER above Anderson's, (notably big men), and compare the %AST rates between them all.

for those too lazy, the results are that Anderson is assisted on 76% of his shots, whilst most of the other players are down around the 50's, and at most the mid 60's.

this isn't a discredit to Anderson at all, it just highlights that how he's being used is as a 3rd option - a bail out. we still need that 2nd option who can go get points on their own, without needing other players to set them up.

He's not a good #2? How do we even know this since he's untested in that role? Right now he is #2 in MPG, FGA, points, and rebounds.