Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIV, Mods Close))

Driguez · Post #761 » by **Driguez** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 10:31 pm

eyriq wrote:
Evan Dunlap ‏ @BQRMagic Twitter wrote:

If the Magic can find a team willing to give up a draft pick for Daniel Orton, they'll trade him, says report sbn.to/y6aDT8

Who dat

The Real Dalic · Post #762 » by **The Real Dalic** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 10:32 pm

Ronito wrote:Why are any of you guys interested in trading for Melo/Chandler? One of the two isn't exactly on a good contract, and even then...that team has a bench and Amare but are below .500 in the East.

Before anyone says something about me being a Nets fan, I acknowledge I'm probably bias in this case. But I also know what a rebuild is/looks like. And I'm definitely not saying take the Nets trade, before you accuse me of that either. Just looking for discussion.

For me, personally, it's because we'd get a scorer that we haven't since TMac, we'd get the guy I wish Dwight would play like, defense, rebounds, and putbacks, and that's it. for Dwight and Hedo most likely. so it'd be the team we have now, but a downgrade from C, with a HUGE upgrade at SF.

trebone · Post #763 » by **trebone** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 10:43 pm

Yeah Melo/Chandler for Dwight/Hedont/BBD makes us a better team than we are now IMO by a ton.

Jameer would play great with Melo as a ballhandler and we would have someone to close out a game and draw doubles for JJ and Ryan to hit the 3 ball

Imagine

Jameer
JRich/JJ
Melo
Anderson
Chandler

Thats a very good team IMO that is a top 3 or 4 seed for sure and better than NYK or Orl at this present time

sChOlaRlY_Magi · Post #764 » by **sChOlaRlY_Magi** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 10:57 pm

jadewbj wrote:http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/sam_amick/03/03/nba.notebook/index.html?sct=nba_t12_a1
This says we are looking at rolling the dice with a 10% chance at hoping he stays and preferring the 18mil in capspace as opposed to any of the deals out there. A plan I agree with, if you have any chance at keeping him you try and if you fail you get the 18 mil in capspace if he walks.

It also says the GS owner is bats*&t crazy and won't make a deal for anyone not named Dwight.

This could get crazy.

I can't remember correctly; but did Ownership of the Warriors change around the time they signed Marc Jackson?

GSW used to be Otis' favorite shopping spot; but now the owner is saying "Dwight or bust!" ???

Post #765 » by **Def Swami** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:01 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYuc8HhANdQ[/youtube]
:cry:

OMPunk · Post #766 » by **OMPunk** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:02 pm

eyriq wrote:
Evan Dunlap ‏ @BQRMagic Twitter wrote:

If the Magic can find a team willing to give up a draft pick for Daniel Orton, they'll trade him, says report sbn.to/y6aDT8

I could see a ton of teams that would take a chance on him with a 2nd rounder. Dallas/LAL/Portland/NY/NJ/Mil/Miami come to mind.

I just don't have any faith in our organization to develop him AT ALL. He should have been in the D League when he wasn't injured for the last year and a half if he wasn't ready.

ADRajX · Post #767 » by **ADRajX** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:06 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYuc8HhANdQ[/youtube]

same sentiments

The Real Dalic · Post #768 » by **The Real Dalic** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:08 pm

D12J14 wrote:
eyriq wrote:
Evan Dunlap ‏ @BQRMagic Twitter wrote:

If the Magic can find a team willing to give up a draft pick for Daniel Orton, they'll trade him, says report sbn.to/y6aDT8

I could see a ton of teams that would take a chance on him with a 2nd rounder. Dallas/LAL/Portland/NY/NJ/Mil/Miami come to mind.

Yep. what I don't understand is why we're doing this for Orton, who is an expiring, instead of someone like J-Rich, or Hedo, or BBD, etc. that have contracts past this year... we should go into free up cap space mode.

Noonskadoodle · Post #769 » by **Noonskadoodle** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:11 pm

Orlando Sentinel: Magic GM Otis Smith says "six to eight" teams are still calling him to try to acquire or "rent" Dwight Howard.

The Real Dalic · Post #770 » by **The Real Dalic** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:13 pm

DJRajX wrote:
VGOSWAMI wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYuc8HhANdQ[/youtube]

same sentiments

I saw that on SportsCenter and was in aww. :lol:

I literally turned to my brother and said "that could've been our star guard if GSW wasn't delusional". :lol:

Post #771 » by **Def Swami** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:15 pm

John Denton ‏ @JohnDenton555
Asked wherever I go what will happen in D.Howard saga. My thought: D-12 stays in Orl until July then makes decision. I'm in minority there.

OMPunk · Post #772 » by **OMPunk** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:16 pm

Noonskadoodle wrote:Orlando Sentinel: Magic GM Otis Smith says "six to eight" teams are still calling him to try to acquire or "rent" Dwight Howard.

Really curious who they could be....I'd guess

Atlanta
Golden State
LA Lakers
LA Clippers
NY
..................
Indy?
Portland?
Cleveland (shot in the dark cause I can't think of anyone else)

The Real Dalic · Post #773 » by **The Real Dalic** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:17 pm

D12J14 wrote:
Noonskadoodle wrote:Orlando Sentinel: Magic GM Otis Smith says "six to eight" teams are still calling him to try to acquire or "rent" Dwight Howard.

Really curious who they could be....I'd guess

Atlanta
Golden State
LA Lakers
LA Clippers
NY
..................
Indy?
Portland?
Cleveland (shot in the dark cause I can't think of anyone else)

It would be great if we could get Horford and Smoove and maybe Teague with picks for Dwight. there, we'd still be a bad team with good pieces to build around IMO.

x- · Post #774 » by x- » Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:17 pm

D12J14 wrote:
Noonskadoodle wrote:Orlando Sentinel: Magic GM Otis Smith says "six to eight" teams are still calling him to try to acquire or "rent" Dwight Howard.

Really curious who they could be...

[...]

I can't think of anyone else

Houston is a pretty safe bet, I'd say.

OMPunk · Post #775 » by **OMPunk** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:24 pm

x- wrote:
D12J14 wrote:
Noonskadoodle wrote:Orlando Sentinel: Magic GM Otis Smith says "six to eight" teams are still calling him to try to acquire or "rent" Dwight Howard.

Really curious who they could be...

[...]

I can't think of anyone else

Houston is a pretty safe bet, I'd say.

Yea that makes sense....hate their pieces though aside from Lowry and that's not going to be nearly enough from them.

ADRajX · Post #776 » by **ADRajX** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:26 pm

Noonskadoodle wrote:Orlando Sentinel: Magic GM Otis Smith says "six to eight" teams are still calling him to try to acquire or "rent" Dwight Howard.

If one of those teams calling is the OKC Thunder... uhh hello Otis, ask for this! [btw, there is no way OKC will trade Ibaka, so don't even ask for him]
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=8ynr3gk

Run with this line-up (this season we are allowed to have 16 players).

PG-Westbrook/Nelson/Ish
SG-Harden/Redick/Wafer/Liggins
SF-J-Rich/Hedo/Q-Rich/Clark*
PF-Anderson/BBD/Harper/Clark*
C- Perkins/Mohammed/Clark*

*can play multiple positions

Westbrook is a stud, and Harden is a legit borderline star SG. Move J-Rich to SF. Bring Nelson, Redick, and Hedo off the bench (depth!). You have Anderson (a very good improving player) still on the team to receive timely passes from Westbrook and Harden when the defense collapses due to their dribble penetration. Defensively we are still solid at C (Perkins, Mohammed) and at PF (Ryan and Davis); and we are better defensively at PG (Westbrook), and SG (Harden, Redick)... we improve in those areas believe it or not. Westbrook will be the man on the team, and so will Harden and Ryan. We get a play-maker and creator; and we still maintain our depth and defensive abilities. We also instantly become more athletic and our fast break opportunities will increase.

OMPunk · Post #777 » by **OMPunk** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:27 pm

The Real Dalic wrote:
D12J14 wrote:
Noonskadoodle wrote:Orlando Sentinel: Magic GM Otis Smith says "six to eight" teams are still calling him to try to acquire or "rent" Dwight Howard.

Really curious who they could be....I'd guess

Atlanta
Golden State
LA Lakers
LA Clippers
NY
..................
Indy?
Portland?
Cleveland (shot in the dark cause I can't think of anyone else)

It would be great if we could get Horford and Smoove and maybe Teague with picks for Dwight. there, we'd still be a bad team with good pieces to build around IMO.

Assuming its something like 12/Hedo or Baby we'd be

Teague
JRich
Smooth
Ryno
Horford

That teams decent in my opinion. I would probably try and upgrade our center spot (LOL) and move Big Al to PF where he'll probably be more effective. I'd be more about it as well if Smooth was going to stick around but he's got one more year then he'll probably jet.

The Real Dalic · Post #778 » by **The Real Dalic** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:28 pm

DJRajX wrote:
Noonskadoodle wrote:Orlando Sentinel: Magic GM Otis Smith says "six to eight" teams are still calling him to try to acquire or "rent" Dwight Howard.

If one of those teams calling is the OKC Thunder... uhh hello Otis, ask for this! [btw, there is no way OKC will trade Ibaka, so don't even ask for him]
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=8ynr3gk

Run with this line-up.

PG-Westbrook/Nelson/Smith
SG-Harden/Redick/Liggins
SF-J-Rich/Hedo/Q-Rich/Clark*
PF-Anderson/BBD/Harper/Clark*
C- Perkins/Mohammed/Clark*

*can play multiple positions

Westbrook is a stud, and Harden is a legit borderline star SG. Move J-Rich to SF. Bring Nelson, Redick, and Hedo off the bench (depth!). You have Anderson (a very good improving player) still on the team to receive timely passes from Westbrook and Harden when the defense collapses due to their dribble penetration. Defensively we are still a threat at C (Perkins, Mohammed) at PF (Ryan, and Davis), and now even more so at PG (Westbrook), and SG (Harden, Redick)... we improve in those areas. Westbrook will be the man on the team, and so will Harden and Ryan. We get a play-maker and creator; and we still maintain our depth and defensive abilities. We also instantly become more athletic and our fast break opportunities will increase.

I'd do this in a heartbeat.

trebone · Post #779 » by **trebone** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:28 pm

^ I just dont see Presti giving up that much for what amounts to a rental, he is no Otis Smith!

The Real Dalic · Post #780 » by **The Real Dalic** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:29 pm

D12J14 wrote:
The Real Dalic wrote:It would be great if we could get Horford and Smoove and maybe Teague with picks for Dwight. there, we'd still be a bad team with good pieces to build around IMO.

Assuming its something like 12/Hedo or Baby we'd be

Teague
JRich
Smooth
Ryno
Horford

That teams decent in my opinion. I would probably try and upgrade our center spot (LOL) and move Big Al to PF where he'll probably be more effective. I'd be more about it as well if Smooth was going to stick around but he's got one more year then he'll probably jet.

So we could use him as a nice trading chip or something? maybe we could get a decent C?